blockbuster is closing all their stores, Target has shrunk the size of their CD/Movie sections, the all DD future is happening. Do people even get discs through netflix anymore?
You just keep hearing them say "It was a really good thing for reasons!!" Without ever actually saying what those reasons were...
He's 100% right.
It's absolutely insane that i have to ship a piece of plastic from NJ (closest Amazon warehouse) to my house in order to play a game.
They should have not included a disk drive in that thing and moved forward dragging the rest of the world with them.
I bet they had plenty of 'rational conversations' with their 'corporate partners'.
Regardless, you lost a launch sale here, even after the dust and 180s settled, you're still talking down to your consumers like we're children with mom's purse at our disposal.
Hey man. Fix that "$" and turn it into "Microsoft".
I'm trying to save your life here!
He's 100% right.
It's absolutely insane that i have to ship a piece of plastic from NJ (closest Amazon warehouse) to my house in order to play a game.
They should have not included a disk drive in that thing and moved forward dragging the rest of the world with them.
Yes, but Microsoft shouldn't be starting at the ground floor, either.
Just like with Sony and the PSN, even if it was 5 years behind Microsoft's, didn't give them a free pass to spend 5 years catching up.
What Steam learned and currently does can easily be applied to the Xbox.
Blockbuster was killed off by Redbox, not Netflix.
"We may have been right. What we were wrong about was that it's just too soon."
He is completely right.
I don't like it. But we don't have a choice.
There is a big difference between going all digital and going all DRM.
Blockbuster was killed off by Redbox, not Netflix.
I think that this is just matter of time. Year or two and they will slowly reintroduce them in some extent.The thing that still bothers me about the XBox One, more so than the price, is that MS seems intent on bringing back those policies.
*At current game prices.* And that was the problem. They were taking away features and keeping the prices the same. We don't bitch about not being able to share phone apps or Steam games because the prices are so much better in both cases.
They are gonna kill RedBox like they are trying to kill Netflix don't worry.Good thing RedBox does not exist in your mind.
I have a proposal Albert (since I'm guessing you will read this thread). Why doesn't Microsoft inform us what exactly your vision was because you were never really clear, instead of telling us we weren't ready for it? I am genuinely curious to know. Maybe it really was as great as you make it sound.
It seems to me that this is the road Microsoft wants to take. I would recommend starting the sales pitch early. Tell people what you want to do with digital in the near future. Tell us about the benefits and convince us, and maybe even listen to the feedback that you might be able to use. Because even in five years or so, you're likely going to meet the same resistance if you try to do it without the discussion on your end.
It's kind of amazing that Microsoft made an anti consumer device that surprisingly wasn't wanted by consumers and they chose to blame consumers instead of the people who designed it.
"It's not fair! Why won't they just buy what we tell them to?"
His framing is very disingenuous.
It wasn't JUST an all-digital future from Xbox that was the problem. It was a majority of their policies surrounding that decision, from check-ins to trade-ins.
And then there's his drive-by observation that a "rational" conversation did not occur; basically implying that consumers/gamers were the irrational ones in the debacle.
It's insulting on both counts.
Valve agrees with Albert.
Penello left out half of the comment, there.
"I do feel like we never got a chance to have a rational conversation about what we were trying to do, which was fundamentally change how consumers' rights worked in the console software market," Penello told Engadget.
Blockbuster was killed off by Redbox, not Netflix.