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[SanguineShark]

Using "cracka" obviously isn't as bad as using the N word. Never will be. Does it make it okay? Not really, no. Can't really point that out without getting shit for it though.

I honestly don't use that word to refer to white people, but I find myself asking "who the fuck cares?" when people complain about its use.

It's just such a low priority and at the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to racial problems. It's not even worth mentioning or pointing out.

 

[Retro Edge]

Not when people are wondering why this guy can so casually say the word. Because as we're continuing to see, that shit is just a part of his vocabulary.

This on the other hand is questionable. I agree.

 

[LizardKing]

No the fuck it ain't.

Holy fucking shit, you are actually serious about this, you are equating the n word to cracka. Jfc get me off this train

Dude what?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracka

cracka
A term used to insult white people. Has become more popular recently as the opposite of nigger.

I'm not sure where the fuck you guys live but it's pretty astonishing you aren't aware of this.

 

[FinalAres]

So did he use the n word? Is the Op censoring what he said or are people upset because he nearly said the bad word.

 

[slosherbomb]

Why don't we all just report him for hateful speech on youtube.

I thought there was a three strike rule and you lose your channel.

 

[Goldfishking]

Oh, that's not me in the tweet, I was just facepalming that that guy legitimately used the bogus "it's just two syllable" defense

Now im confused. Im tired and annoyed. Im just going bed now.

 

[luulubuu]

This argument is stupid. It doesn't have the same history. Whites weren't oppressed. That doesn't mean that right here, today, it's not meant to be offensive and harmful. It's racist language full stop. You can't argue against that.

It's also irrelevant which racist word is more offensive. Racist is still racist.

Woah, you really need to go out.
Cracker=/= any racist slut man

 

[Numb]

Will people line up to defend yet again
Let's see

 

[jacobeid]

Dude what?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracka

I'm not surprised that a Michigan fan would pull out Urban Dictionary to justify their "oh poor white people" diatribe lol.

 

[Gleethor]

This argument is stupid. It doesn't have the same history. Whites weren't oppressed. That doesn't mean that right here, today, it's not meant to be offensive and harmful. It's racist language full stop. You can't argue against that.

It's also irrelevant which racist word is more offensive. Racist is still racist.

Pretty fucking relevant, actually.

 

[Enzom21]

Oh my god you are serious.

Well of course.

 

[SanguineShark]

Dude what?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracka



I'm not sure where the fuck you guys live but it's pretty astonishing you aren't aware of this.

Are you seriously using some idiots definition on urban dictionary as your source.

 

[Seganomics]

He's used as a shield by idiots who can't see where Lious CK goes with his jokes and what side of the line he actually stands on.

And that CK doesn't knowingly perform to kids.
I mean, you have to be comfortable that the audience you are delivering to can make sense of the context of this stuff.
Pewdiepie knows he doesn't have that luxury.

 

[Stormblessed]

I sort of suspect he developed a taste for being in the news cycle after the whole Nazi thing, and this is a low effort way to generate controversy without any serious impact on his business.

 

[ramoisdead]

Dude what?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracka



I'm not sure where the fuck you guys live but it's pretty astonishing you aren't aware of this.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL using Urban Dictionary to back up your argument. Read actual history behind the word.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

This argument is stupid. It doesn't have the same history. Whites weren't oppressed. That doesn't mean that right here, today, it's not meant to be offensive and harmful. It's racist language full stop. You can't argue against that.

It's also irrelevant which racist word is more offensive. Racist is still racist.

This is embarrassing.

Edit: Oh god, you used Urban Dictionary as your source.

 

[Orb]

Dude what?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracka



I'm not sure where the fuck you guys live but it's pretty astonishing you aren't aware of this.

URBAN DICTIONARY IS LITERALLY USER EDITED AND DEFINED

Oh my god

 

[L Thammy]

I think the guy is just trying to steal some black swag, like the pathetic guy from The Wire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Jg-Omwmo4

Think really hard about that motivation. What does Pewdiepie think about black people in order to want to "steal some black swag"? What does it mean that he's wiling to say a word that he knows has been used to oppress black people for the purpose of "steal[ing] some back swag"?

He's also previously posted an image that says he "talks like a black man". What does he think "talks like a black man" means?

Pewds is an idiot, but he's not some KKK nazi.

These shouldn't be mutually exclusive. Do you have to be in the KKK and a Nazi to be a racist? Why do people want to push the bar so high?

 

[jacobeid]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL using Urban Dictionary to back up your argument. Read actual history behind the word.

Read post history and realize it's a lost cause instead o.0

 

[Kayant]

Wait but I was told his apology was sincere...

Before people get defensive by the word racist, know there are different levels of racism. Spouting racist slurs is one of them. You don't need to read into someone's hearts and minds to know if they truly hate a whole race of people, you can judge them by their actions. Racism isn't just physical violence.

Fistbump.jpg

 

[Sangetsu-II]

This thread = Priceless

 

[stargateheaven]

So did he use the n word? Is the Op censoring what he said or are people upset because he nearly said the bad word.

he almost did. but he didnt.

 

[luulubuu]

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disclaimer: this is of course a reply to LizardKing about the gravity of both terms, not even one close to another.

 

[MUnited83]

Which makes them cowards and enablers of racism, and therefore worthy of condemnation and boycotting.

Don't support racism, or those with the power to combat it but won't.

Same applies to every single developer not issuing DMCAs to PewDiePie videos then.

You might want to get a few pens because oh boy are you going to have to write a long, Kong, long, long list of "cowards and enablers of racism".

 

[Gleethor]

Doesn't CK also have a bit about how cracker is a completely toothless insult?

 

[Nokterian]

Seeing all diet racists coming out.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

I wish Youtube or Twitch would drop him.

 

[LotusHD]

Well of course.

He's one of the Emmett Till people, oh man...

EDIT:

Downplayed the stuff in that racist stuff you encounter in games thread today as well...

Pretty fucking relevant, actually.

Yea like wtf

So did he use the n word? Is the Op censoring what he said or are people upset because he nearly said the bad word.

What? Censor it how, the video's right there, he nearly said it.

 

[Rumblebones]

Dude what?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracka



I'm not sure where the fuck you guys live but it's pretty astonishing you aren't aware of this.

You're an obvious troll.

I'm going to leave you to your own devices, this shit catches up with you sooner or later.

 

[norm9]

These shouldn't be mutually exclusive. Do you have to be in the KKK and a Nazi to be a racist? Why do people want to push the bar so high?

Raise the bar high enough so you don't include yourself.

 

[AdventureMike]

This thread is going to make me drink isn't it? What the fuck did I stumble into.

 

[Irnbru]

Dude what?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracka



I'm not sure where the fuck you guys live but it's pretty astonishing you aren't aware of this.

I'm not sure where the fuck you're living in which you feel a word that was systemically used to describe people what were used as slaves to mothefucking cracka.

Like, get a fucking grip of reality. Cracka has no history, nothing. It was used to oppress an entire group of people for years. And now your equating the two as a whataboutism to defend pewdiepie and how we're just as bad as that. BOTH FUCKING SIDES RIGHT?

 

[Goldfishking]

I wish Youtube or Twitch would drop him.

Why would they? With other youtubers like Boogie supporting him.

 

[PillarEN]

Doesn't CK also have a bit about how cracker is a completely toothless insult?

Yes. "Brings me back to when we owned land and people. What a drag" or something like that.

 

[Sangetsu-II]

This thread is going to make me drink isn't it? What the fuck did I stumble into.

The thread is about to get locked imo. To much hatred from both sides.

 

[GodOfVG103]

When you sit down and think about it, he is only doing what he was taught.

Be white -check
Gain influence and money -check
Act like a complete jerk to people you feel is below you -check

It's like, what does he even get from saying such a disgusting word. How does that even get into your system in the first place.

When I get angry my first reaction is never a racial slur, I just don't understand that mindset and it's inexcusable.

 

[Rumblebones]

Same applies to every single developer not issuing DMCAs to PewDiePie videos then.

You might want to get a few pens because oh boy are you going to have to write a long, Kong, long, long list of "cowards and enablers of racism".

Way ahead of you.

I'm very picky about what companies I choose to support with my money.

 

[Easy_D]

"Boys will be boys."

He's just gonna keep doing this is he?

What's the context of this gif? Guy has the hardest "What the fuck are you saying" face

 

[Valtýr]

Growing up, I knew a lot of dudes in high-school who talked like this. It wasn't like they were saying stuff like this every other word but you definitely heard it.

These dudes were ignorant as hell, but they were also children.

This dude is a grown adult who should know better. Grow up.

 

[Messofanego]

So did he use the n word? Is the Op censoring what he said or are people upset because he nearly said the bad word.

He wants to say "my nigga" in the most recent case but self-censors himself in just enough time to say "my nev" and admits that he almost slipped up there so soon after the apology, and he knows that even saying the censored version (guessing "nigga", ninja, or some other code word) would still catch him a ton of shit. It's all related to how he just can't stop saying some variant of it, and how this is part of his regular vocabulary.

 

[valkillmore]

In Chris Rock voice -

'Another N? A NOTH er N?? I thought it was Groundhog's Day when I hear THAT shit!'

What's the context of this gif? Guy has the hardest "What the fuck are you saying" face

That is Al Fucking Roker dude.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

That word MUST be in his day to day speech if he cant help himself whilst streaming. What a fucking idiot racist.

 

[Orb]

This thread is going to make me drink isn't it? What the fuck did I stumble into.

The trick is to always be drinking

 

[L Thammy]

Dude what?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracka



I'm not sure where the fuck you guys live but it's pretty astonishing you aren't aware of this.

What the fuck does that even mean? How can you be the "opposite" of a racial slur? Does that mean it's meant to lift up black people? Or at black and white two sides of the same coin, like the Mystics and the Skeksi from The Dark Crystal? Where do other ethnicities fit into the black-white dichotomy?

 

[AdventureMike]

Yes. "Brings me back to when we owned land and people. What a drag" or something like that.

Not to mention being able to time-travel to any point in history because how great it is to be white!

 

[jacobeid]

The thread is about to get locked imo. To much hatred from both sides.

Please go on.

 

[Vital Tundra]

Lmao this boy.

 

[Eria]

 

[ClosingADoor]

In the last threads I said "see you all in a few months." Guess a few days is enough.

When racial slurs like that come out so easily, you got a fucking problem. Do some reflecting of why this is and how you can fix it. Or you know, start up a new stream and do it all over again. See he picked the last.

And that excuse... "slip up". No, you are not slipping up. It is not an innocent mistake you are making. Not at this point anymore.

 

[snail_maze]

You cant be racist against your oppressor

Not sure why making statements about people based just on their ethnicity is a one way street.
I'm white and I don't a damn about the word 'cracker'(what is that even supposed to mean?), however simply the fact that it is meant to be offensive specifically to a certain ethnicity should at least be enough to maybe not use it on gaf if you want a somewhat respectful tone of discussion