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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair

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When can we just get Civil War 2 going and eliminate all these shitheads permanently?!

My body is ready. Although admittedly my arsenal is a bit lacking atm.

Apparently I was not. Pretty weird in the current climate of what socialism is associated with that they've stuck with it.

It tracks well with polling showing that these same people supper welfare programs as long as they mostly benefit white people.
 

Wilsongt

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People in Facebook are saying the person's tags were already run and the driver of the car was an anti-Trump liberal.

It never fails.
 
OK, so pol is already trying to dox the driver of the car and found someone with the same license plate but very clearly from another state and not the guy, but he's anti-Trump so they are just running with it.

Way too many people treat pol as a group of harmless trolls and not the terrorists they are.
 

Teggy

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https://mobile.twitter.com/RepRubenGallego/status/896490465540935680

He didn't thread his tweets right, but here is the winner

Ruben Gallego @RepRubenGallego
Then you, @realDonaldTrump, are a racist. 4/
5:57 PM · Aug 12, 2017

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DHD61dKUwAAOOak
 

Sianos

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donald trump on north korea: "they will see fire and fury like the world has never seen"

donald trump on venezuela: "the military option is not off the table"

donald trump on nazis: "all sides are bad"
 

B-Dubs

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donald trump on north korea: "they will see fire and fury like the world has never seen"

donald trump on venezuela: "the military option is not off the table"

donald trump on nazis: "all sides are bad"

He's a racist and a coward, what did you expect?
 
I have to call it right now - unless Trump actually starts a nuclear war, this will be the most shameful moment of his presidency.

"Fuck white supremacists" is one of the only slam dunks any president could be guaranteed in a situation like this, yet he chose to value keeping this single-digit contingent of the electorate energized for him over actually being a goddamned leader and stepping up to the plate at a time when he was unequivocally required to.
 
Do we have a name of the driver?
No. Police have't released any names.

/pol/ was pushing around a name of some anti-Trump kid, but that's 100% debunked bullshit. I've seen -another- name as the owner of the car, a 20 year old Republican, but that's also 100% unverified (and of course, we don't even know if the owner of the car was the one driving).
 

Teggy

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And now 2 cops are dead because their helicopter monitoring the event crashed.

Edit: actually they are not confirming or denying they were assigned to watch the event
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
McAuliffe did a great job.

This really isn't hard for politicians to handle.

Non-racist politicians at least.

I mean, denouncing Nazis is like knowing how to breathe. It's literally a bar so low that even a racist can manage to clear it. Trump on the other hand, he literally tripped over the lowest bar imaginable today.

I'm just so fucking angry right now.
 
Apparently I was not. Pretty weird in the current climate of what socialism is associated with that they've stuck with it.
Nobody seems to know what socialism is anymore except the paranoid conservatives. Fascism is socialism. Mussolini and Hitler were avowed anti corporatists. There was no separation between private enterprise and the national enterprise. It's why total war was even conceivable. Racial populism and socialism are hard to separate, too, historically. Even if socialism has existed with racial liberalism and equality it has not always been that way and does not necessitate it in the slightest. There are vast swaths of the United States that would be happy to live in a nationalist, socialist country: anti-immigrant, blood and soil, workers rights, pro-infrastructure, anti-rich, anti-black national unity (for those that are part of the proper American race). I remember reading "Damn the Republicans!" in Grapes of Wrath.

It's all pretty cohesive, really. Unity, community, our-people above all else. The businesses cannot be separate from the state. The people cannot be separate from one another - and as the different races cannot ever be together, there can only be one race in the nation. The bourgeousie cannot be separate from the proletariat. Our ideas cannot be separate from the norm. It is the arrogant, managerial state, the overwrought moralism, the James Burnham nightmare.
 

Teggy

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If there is one small bright spot to all this tragedy, idiot nazis who keep saying "lol stop calling us nazis," can easily be responded to with photos of nazi flags and salutes from this event. There will also be very clear evidence of their terrorism from these very shocking photos and videos, and there will very likely be a name and face to tie to them in the form of the driver.
 

pigeon

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Nobody seems to know what socialism is anymore except the paranoid conservatives. Fascism is socialism. Mussolini and Hitler were avowed anti corporatists. There was no separation between private enterprise and the national enterprise. It's why total war was even conceivable. Racial populism and socialism are hard to separate, too, historically. Even if socialism has existed with racial liberalism and equality it has not always been that way and does not necessitate it in the slightest. There are vast swaths of the United States that would be happy to live in a nationalist, socialist country: anti-immigrant, blood and soil, workers rights, pro-infrastructure, anti-rich, anti-black national unity (for those that are part of the proper American race). I remember reading "Damn the Republicans!" in Grapes of Wrath.

It's all pretty cohesive, really. Unity, community, our-people above all else. The businesses cannot be separate from the state. The people cannot be separate from one another - and as the different races cannot ever be together, there can only be one race in the nation. The bourgeousie cannot be separate from the proletariat. Our ideas cannot be separate from the norm. It is the arrogant, managerial state, the overwrought moralism, the James Burnham nightmare.

This is a little...intense for you.

I would not characterize ethnonationalist fascism as "what socialism is." It's one thing that people sometimes meant by socialism, but we kind of decided as a society they were wrong to do so.
 

Teggy

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Nobody seems to know what socialism is anymore except the paranoid conservatives. Fascism is socialism. Mussolini and Hitler were avowed anti corporatists. There was no separation between private enterprise and the national enterprise. It's why total war was even conceivable. Racial populism and socialism are hard to separate, too, historically. Even if socialism has existed with racial liberalism and equality it has not always been that way and does not necessitate it in the slightest. There are vast swaths of the United States that would be happy to live in a nationalist, socialist country: anti-immigrant, blood and soil, workers rights, pro-infrastructure, anti-rich, anti-black national unity (for those that are part of the proper American race). I remember reading "Damn the Republicans!" in Grapes of Wrath.

It's all pretty cohesive, really. Unity, community, our-people above all else. The businesses cannot be separate from the state. The people cannot be separate from one another - and as the different races cannot ever be together, there can only be one race in the nation. The bourgeousie cannot be separate from the proletariat. Our ideas cannot be separate from the norm. It is the arrogant, managerial state, the overwrought moralism, the James Burnham nightmare.

How does the alt-right square their views with Trump's union busting stance?
 
I really wanna text my dad saying "hey did you catch all that legitimate economic concerns in Charlottesville last night?" But I don't really wanna open that can of worms.
 
I mean, denouncing Nazis is like knowing how to breathe. It's literally a bar so low that even a racist can manage to clear it. Trump on the other hand, he literally tripped over the lowest bar imaginable today.

I'm just so fucking angry right now.

He didn't "trip", his political team know that he is in a horrible situation in terms of popularity and capital and that they literally can't afford to lose any speck of their current support if they want to get anything done whatsoever.
 

Teggy

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I really wanna text my dad saying "hey did you catch all that legitimate economic concerns in Charlottesville last night?" But I don't really wanna open that can of worms.

I'm right there with you. I settle for passive aggressively making posts to Facebook that I know my mom will see.
 

Valhelm

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Nobody seems to know what socialism is anymore except the paranoid conservatives. Fascism is socialism. Mussolini and Hitler were avowed anti corporatists. There was no separation between private enterprise and the national enterprise. It's why total war was even conceivable. Racial populism and socialism are hard to separate, too, historically. Even if socialism has existed with racial liberalism and equality it has not always been that way and does not necessitate it in the slightest. There are vast swaths of the United States that would be happy to live in a nationalist, socialist country: anti-immigrant, blood and soil, workers rights, pro-infrastructure, anti-rich, anti-black national unity (for those that are part of the proper American race). I remember reading "Damn the Republicans!" in Grapes of Wrath.

It's all pretty cohesive, really. Unity, community, our-people above all else. The businesses cannot be separate from the state. The people cannot be separate from one another - and as the different races cannot ever be together, there can only be one race in the nation. The bourgeousie cannot be separate from the proletariat. Our ideas cannot be separate from the norm. It is the arrogant, managerial state, the overwrought moralism, the James Burnham nightmare.

A socialist died today fighting fascism and many more were gravely injured. This post is contemptible.
 
This is a little...intense for you.
benji's banned and there's an imbalance in the thread. i didnt ask for this, nobody asked for this

I would not characterize ethnonationalist fascism as "what socialism is." It's one thing that people sometimes meant by socialism, but we kind of decided as a society they were wrong to do so.
Sorry, neither would I. I was simply responding to the idea that it would be weird to associate nazism with socialism. It isn't, for really good reasons.

A socialist died today fighting fascism and many more were gravely injured. This post is contemptible.
Don't browbeat me.
 
How does the alt-right square their views with Trump's union busting stance?

What's there to square? The alt-right hates unions. The Nazis hated unions too, and they eventually got around to purging and killing any of their party that were serious about the socialism part of national socialism.
 

B-Dubs

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He didn't "trip", his political team know that he is in a horrible situation in terms of popularity and capital and that they literally can't afford to lose any speck of their current support if they want to get anything done whatsoever.

I know, I'm just saying that he managed to fail to clear literally the lowest bar in American politics.
 

Teggy

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What's there to square? The alt-right hates unions. The Nazis hated unions too, and they eventually got around to purging and killing any of their party that were serious about the socialism part of national socialism.

But don't the workers get their strength through unions? I guess I'm missing something.
 

kirblar

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What's there to square? The alt-right hates unions. The Nazis hated unions too, well at least once they got around to purging and killing any of their party that were serious about the socialism part of national socialism.
I mean, can't have a centralized economy with unions or corporations!
 

Valhelm

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No socialism can position one race over another. The majority of working class Americans are black, Hispanic, or Native American, so any American society of the proletariat must by definition be for and by people of color. On a global skill, nearly all of those who do not own capital are not white.

If we accept that socialism is an economy owned by the working class, and not "the government spending money on stuff", then we can see that a white-exclusive socialism is impossible.
 
But don't the workers get their strength through unions? I guess I'm missing something.

You're missing the part where Nazis aren't actually a workers party, and the alt-right in as much as they have any coherent economic ideology, veer more to a social darwinist let the poor starve stance.
 

sphagnum

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But don't the workers get their strength through unions? I guess I'm missing something.

Nazis called themselves national socialists not because they actually believed in socialism but because they were opposed to capitalism because its global natural uprooted established national communities and was believed to be controlled by Jews, and because they were bandwagonning on the idea that socialism = government does stuff. So it's government protecting the volk. They didn't believe in class struggle though because that would be detrimental to the nation, they believed in class compromise.

A lot of Neo Nazis don't care about the economics of it at all, just the race part. But the ones who do are the ones talking about (((globalists))).
 
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