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[fastballspecial]

Man. This is a fucking bummer. Might not get this thing now. I had just told my wife that I was going to let the PSVR pass me by to get the new console... maybe not.

 

[Durante]

I don't understand why they would do this. Surely, the additional cost is marginal, and Blu-ray / media capabilities in general seems like something they'd be interested in pushing.

Confusing.

 

[True Fire]

Wow, I was getting my 499 Canadian dollars ready and everything and I'm probably not even going to buy it now lol. Huge oversight Sony.

I'd be better off buying an Xbox One anyway since I already have a PS4

 

[Fredrik]

Streaming, not blu-ray.

Oh. But that doesn't make any sense. MS and Nintendo excluding UHD blu-ray could make sense, but Sony? Is it a cost issue? They sell 4K TVs, 4K projectors, 4K blu-ray players, 4K receivers, and they're really pushing for 4K for PS4 Pro but it won't support 4K blu-ray? Are they afraid to lose 4K blu-ray player sales?

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

Ok, so after all of the 4K marketing this will do nothing at actual 4K?

The closest it is going to get is compressed to heck and back streaming, YouTube and Netflix etc, depending on if you have an amazing connection or not... Am I understanding this right?

 

[Kimawolf]

Total bull shit. They talked about 4K movies on the press conference.

Yeah you will watch 4k movies... through Netflix and Youtube.

 

[Ridley327]

https://twitter.com/Rob_Crossley_/status/773616813959745536

There you go.

Boy, this isn't confusing messaging at all!

What a fuck-up. I don't think Sony has messed up this bad in a long time.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

I don't understand why they would do this. Surely, the additional cost is marginal, and Blu-ray / media capabilities in general seems like something they'd be interested in pushing.

Confusing.

Trying to get people to use streaming services of companies they're partnered with, maybe?

 

[Straight Edge]

Man 4K and HDR can go fuck themselves. If you want 4K games go play on PS4 Pro. If you want 4K Blu-ray go get a stupid expensive player or an XBO S, but don't expect to play 4K games on that. If you want HDR stick with a normal PS4, but if you want 4K AND HDR better get the Pro, but not Blu-rays, so get the S for that. But if you want HDR10 you can get a Samsung 4K TV, but if you want DolbyVision you better get a Vizio. And if you want HDR games but not crappy input lag you better wait at least another year.

Or maybe fuck all of it?

I agree. The 2 different HDR formats need to get sorted. Input lag needs to come way down on 4K tvs before they are appropriate for gaming.

 

[alr1ght]

smh

 

[farisr]

This move basically made the console go from a "sure buy" to a "no buy" for my brother and he's actually considering the Xbox One S now despite generally liking Sony's offerings.

 

[wachie]

What a courageous decision by Sony

I see you watched the Apple keynote.

 

[Metfanant]

Dumb

 

[qa_engineer]

Gais,
The Pro Plus is coming. right?

 

[Peterc]

What a shame.

 

[Joqu]

https://twitter.com/Rob_Crossley_/status/773616813959745536

There you go.

Christ. They're really fucking this one up

 

[BreezyLimbo]

What a disaster.

This is undefensible.. Streaming 4k isnt a valid option. The quality will still be worse than playing 4k off the disc. Simple as that.

What a disaster.

 

[Bornstellar]

... But why!?

 

[Auto-Reply]

This is stupid.... then again, I'm not planning on buying 4k Blu rays anyway..... not until the price for them drops to 10 bucks or less.

 

[chadskin]

smh

So, so stupid.

 

[Elitist1945]

Is there even that much 4K streaming content available right now?

 

[robotrock]

Trash decision. Sony come on

 

[Sigma722]

https://twitter.com/Rob_Crossley_/status/773616813959745536

There you go.

Then why the fuck would you take time to talk about netflix and youtube. Insanity.

 

[TheFuzz]

Lol. Not buying one then.

 

[darkwing]

such a dumb move, who would buy this

 

[Gigamear]

So let me get this straight, games that are ps4 pro optimized will be standard ps4 quality on disc, but when you put the disc in the ps4 pro you have to download a patch or something to upgrade it?

 

[belvedere]

https://twitter.com/Rob_Crossley_/status/773616813959745536

There you go.

Will buy to won't buy that quick.

What the fuck Sony?

 

[mrklaw]

Need a u-turn Sony

 

[EagleEyes]

Yeah you will watch 4k movies... through Netflix and Youtube.

And those with internet caps will be over their limit after a couple movies lol.

 

[Ridley327]

Just so people get an idea of how crazy this is: Sony's own 4K discs play on an Xbox and not their own hardware.

Figure out how that shit works.

 

[poodpick]

So a console designed for UHD certified tvs will not play UHD bluray...

 

[StoppedInTracks]

Paging Jeff_Rigby.

 

[Mobius 1]

Look at this well informed group of hardware engineers with certainty over the product management decisions of a large corporation.   😂

 

[3Dprinted]

Sony trolling Jeff Rigby.

This.
It was initially going to have it but...
They forgot they already had a 4k bluray player on the market, so why bother with the PS4pro.

 

[Synless]

smh

The focus is on games... Yet they focused on Netflix for part of their conference.

 

[The Main Event]

No. Fucking. Way.

 

[farisr]

What a disaster.

This is undefensible.. Streaming 4k isnt a valid option. The quality will still be worse than playing 4k off the disc. Simple as that.

A lot of the time, it's not even as good as a 1080p bluray.

 

[MomoPufflet]

Total dogshit decision. Bye Felicia.

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

This is just weird. To costly to put one in??

 

[notaskwid]

For the players.

 

[RoboPlato]

I just can't wrap my head around this decision.

 

[ArgyleGamer]

So let me get this straight, games that are ps4 pro optimized will be standard ps4 quality on disc, but when you put the disc in the ps4 pro you have to download a patch or something to upgrade it?

Correct, there will be a patch that will presumably have upgraded textures etc.

 

[foxbeldin]

How else are they gonna sell you a ps4 pro slim next year?

 

[nekkid]

Probably why they didn't call it PS4K.

Not even joking.

 

[Grinchy]

Holy shit, that is just awful.

 

[killroy87]

It's a hilarious move. The leap in graphical quality is already questionable. It's like they're just giving reasons for people to stick with their current PS4, and get an XboneS

 

[Rudiano]

I guess this is what happens when Sony rush the console to get ahead start of the Scorpio! November 2016? Im sure everyone thought it would be 2017

 

[The Flash]

https://twitter.com/Rob_Crossley_/status/773616813959745536

There you go.

Jim. Let me break this down for you.

The company you work for helped develop Blu-ray technology.

The slim revision of your competitor's console does have 4K Blu-ray.

Heeeelllllloooooo

 

[D1renegade]

Don't worry they can patch it in later...

 

[Tainted]

Is this something which could be patched in post release via firmware or is it a hardware limitation?

Even if it was able to be added via firmware, I doubt they will otherwise they would have put it in there at release.

baffling decision