This has nothing to do with the game being boring. This has to do with the the features of the game that were spoken about that Sean said they were in the game but no longer are.
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Reddit Compiles Definitive List of All NMS Missing Features/False Marketing +Sources
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This has nothing to do with the game being boring. This has to do with the the features of the game that were spoken about that Sean said they were in the game but no longer are.
The Jackdog
Member
pr filter? what? he was advertising and showing his game. unfiltered view of development or not, it doesnt make it cool to do. people are obviously disappointed. im disappointed, i didnt get the game i expected. a lot of people didnt. some people made the game they expected up. for sure. some people expected too much. but look at that list. what they delivered was not what they advertised. people give AAA games loads of shit as soon as they downgrade a game. they still made a game, marketed it like they did, and then charged you 60 bucks to experience it.
i dont believe he was deliberately lying, he seems pretty genuine, he seemed very excited about what he was making. thats awesome. and with 15 people or whatever its amazing what they did its cool i get it and i agree. its probably not some grand conspiracy. but it was still misrepresented.
UI is one of the things that can change very drastically and only be finalized near the very end. Especially after usability/play tests. A lot of games in early production will turn off UI in reveals/trailers, because they know it can change drastically.
That is the one positive I can take away from all this. It's a concept that will definitely be more fully realized. I just don't think that some infinite universe with procedural generation is the way.
NullPointer
Member
Its a compelling list, and more than enough to merit official comment and clarification.
But it shouldn't be taken as gospel as a number of things mentioned are either already in the game, or may be in the game but haven't been witnessed by those redditors though.
Still, something's not right here.
Consider me intrigued to see where this goes.
When it comes to core gameplay that everybody experiences all the time - that stuff you can easily call out. But stuff like 'no butterflies' or 'no rivers' or 'no animals eating other animals' is a far trickier proposition to nail down.
But it shouldn't be taken as gospel as a number of things mentioned are either already in the game, or may be in the game but haven't been witnessed by those redditors though.
Still, something's not right here.
Consider me intrigued to see where this goes.
Considering the way the game is structured it makes more sense to believe the one person who said they saw something than even thousands who haven't. To say something rare cannot happen means you've gone through all the permutations, which doesn't seem feasible.
When it comes to core gameplay that everybody experiences all the time - that stuff you can easily call out. But stuff like 'no butterflies' or 'no rivers' or 'no animals eating other animals' is a far trickier proposition to nail down.
fastballspecial
Member
Didn't people notice a lot of this stuff wasn't in the game before it released? Videos were flying out of every orifice of the Internet weeks before release. Even the leaked copy/copies generated videos and discussion plenty of time before the game dropped.
At this point, knowledge was power. And if you bought the game expecting something different than what was shown so close to launch then you're to blame for spending your money on something you didn't have the facts about. Just because you *hoped* something was in the game that was talked about while the game was IN DEVELOPMENT, it doesn't mean it has to be in the final build.
Also, I agree no one should be lying about this stuff. But I'm pretty confident that it's not the scenario here.
At this point, knowledge was power. And if you bought the game expecting something different than what was shown so close to launch then you're to blame for spending your money on something you didn't have the facts about. Just because you *hoped* something was in the game that was talked about while the game was IN DEVELOPMENT, it doesn't mean it has to be in the final build.
Also, I agree no one should be lying about this stuff. But I'm pretty confident that it's not the scenario here.
To be fair to him, you literally just press a button and the PS4 saves the last 15 mins of game time.
I know, and thanks.
Stuff like this is what gets this list ironed out faster.
Unfortunately there are some rather avid fans who have claimed things can happen that haven't been proven or seen.
Until there is evidence that animals "can be eaten", that a planet with sand can actually be generated (out of the small select "environments" there are,) or worms there is no actual proof to them existing.
I would believe the cut content theory if there wasnt Xbox360 stuff left over in the files. If they didnt removed that why would they remove the other stuff
Krappadizzle
Member
Just got done reading. My goodness, that list.
I really hope No Man's Sky 2 is like what Assassin's Creed 2 was to Assassin's Creed. This game is just a huge disappointment, but I want it to do well as it has so much potential.
I really hope No Man's Sky 2 is like what Assassin's Creed 2 was to Assassin's Creed. This game is just a huge disappointment, but I want it to do well as it has so much potential.
The Jackdog
Member
see: halo 5. what we got and what we could of had...great game but damnnnn i want that old ui
Jarod McChicken
Member
Do you think the game has sold more than 700K on Steam and got the biggest concurrent players peak of 2016 on PC because of... the power of PlayStation marketing ?
No Man's Sky hype was at the top as soon as the game was revealed during the VGX 2013. The vision shown in that trailer was enough to capture everyone's dreams.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Said from day one this was a con running on the coatails of fanboy extremism.
No mans sky is a masterclass in how to manipulate an captive audience. How the game was sold and presented is far more impressive than the game itself.
The decision to sell for $60 was a genius masterstroke.
No mans sky is a masterclass in how to manipulate an captive audience. How the game was sold and presented is far more impressive than the game itself.
The decision to sell for $60 was a genius masterstroke.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Jesus that list is something else.
Liabe Brave
Member
So if players say they *have* seen something, that's unfounded and relatively suspicious. But if they say they *haven't* seen that feature yet, you trust them. I hope you understand this makes your position incapable of disproof.
CyberPunked
Member
Has anyone posted CrowbCat's video yet?
Darkstorne
Member
I think it's awesome for what it is. I can somewhat understand some people getting annoyed at the lack of some features that were promised, but I still think it's important to recognise that it's a pretty solid game and a fantastic achievement considering the team size and the fact that this has never been done before. They set out to do something completely new, and for the most part pulled it off. That deserves serious respect.
I'm also finding it hilarious that a lot of features in this list have been updated with "Oh, actually this is in the game after all..." But kudos to the guy for keeping the original list there and correcting himself. Also makes me wonder if many of these features simply haven't been documented yet given the size of the game and the relatively small minority of players who discuss what they find online.
Wait why is that?
Hello Games and Sony were so aggressive about pulling YouTube and Twitch streams before release , telling people that what they were playing wasn't indicative of the game with a day 1 patch, and holding review embargos until release.
LostDonkey
Member
Can't argue with that list. Thing is, even thought I know.....I still enjoy playing it, exploring, hoping that something will happen that no ones seen before...
I like the game.
I like the game.
Kadin
Member
This it the thing I can't get past. So many people are quick to point out that this was an indie game built by a very small team yet they don't care in any way that the game is being sold at the standard AAA title price tag. As far as I'm concerned, I hold Hello Games to the same expectations as I do any other large name developer producing $60 games.
Can anyone think of other major releases that had this many things going against it at launch? I know that Alien Colonial Marines is one game that comes to mind for me because that was pretty obvious.
Stumbled upon this on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvAwB7ogkik
I like NMS but still found this hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvAwB7ogkik
I like NMS but still found this hilarious
The Jackdog
Member
hes saying theres no screens or videos i think, this isnt the zapruder film
Yea the thread was locked
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
If Sony powered most of the mainstream/high-profile marketing, and those who mainly game on PC are still watching and following along because they know it'll also be available on their platform of choice, yes it could have an effect?
Not going to say that's right, but if the feature has a small chance of appearing such as the chance of players seeing each other, I doubt it's in the game / was a priority in the development cycle to warrant for it to be in the game.
Crazy good video.
TheSpoiler
Member
Yes it does. If the developer says "this will be in the game", chances are that it'll be in the final game. Otherwise, that's just straight up false advertisement. You can't go around before release, talk about how this and that will be in the game, and then SURPRISE! It's not because "lol we dind't get around to it"!
It's not even that people hoped some of that stuff was going to be on the list. It's that they were told flat out that it was, and it wasn't.
..Right. Back to the NMS thread for legitimate discussion on the game.
TheMan
Member
For the record I'm still having lots of fun with this. Still, seeing that monstrous list makes me sad for what could have been. However, some of that stuff may be still be possible to add through patches or perhaps dlc (ugh). Even though we didn't initially get what was promised, Who knows what this game will look like in 6 mo or a year.
What is relatively suspicious about it? Is it more suspicious than people claiming it absolutely doesn't exist just because they haven't see a stream or screenshot of it? It could just be incredibly rare.
PeakPointMatrix
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hydrophilic attack
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That is not a good look for the game. I guess when they were running out of funds and had to rush the game out the door, they had to cut a lot of planned and advertised features to get it shippable.
Sounds almost as if they sold an early access game at full price
Sounds almost as if they sold an early access game at full price
March of the Crabs
Member
I have definitely seen quite a few things from this list (it's funny how fast misinformation spreads and hiveminds latch on) but there is objectively a lot of promised stuff missing from the final game. Bummer.
I still like it (it's a great game to chill out with a beer with because I love the exploration) but it could have been so much more.
I still like it (it's a great game to chill out with a beer with because I love the exploration) but it could have been so much more.
Keihart
Member
I still can't understand clearly how the hype and expectations became so high about the game. I always saw it as an Indie-ish interplanetary exploration game. But i've read that some people were expecting almost like an MMO out of it, wich i guess it isn't.
Good thing that someone took the time to gather what the game is or isn't, it might prevent some desapointed future buyers.
Good thing that someone took the time to gather what the game is or isn't, it might prevent some desapointed future buyers.
There have been many streams, videos, let's plays, images, communities and more that have no evidence of a sand planet existing.
This is even with the matter that there are only a small subset of planet modifiers/environments that are present in the game.
Unless there's actual proof otherwise, it's not in the game.
Another poster claimed that animals can be eaten and planets rotate, in which the contrary has been proven or there is no evidence.
Named those things please it helps.
That's because there was hardly any information on the game. And since Sean did nothing to alleviate the hype-train things got worst and worst until they were blown out of proportion.
phoisgood495
Member
You could be right about this, I later edited my post to call that out saying I was proven wrong. Could have sworn I saw it in the patch streamers were playing, but like I said I could also be wrong. I haven't noticed it in my playtime, as I find the day and night time cycle very nice.
Never meant to imply this is false, and I also do wish there was more alien interaction and unique things you could see them doing. I went back and changed the language of the original post to be more explicit these are just my thoughts on the post rather than me explicitly pointing out what is true/false.
Not really sure what you want, here. Carnivores attack their prey and kill them yeah they don't carry around their dead bodies in their mouths (which would be awesome), and they'll kind of nibble at their bodies with no apparent damage. I don't think the trailer showed anything more explicit than that anyways?
I agree it isn't in the game, and it's kind of sad it got lost along the way maybe in a more elegant system than they have right now, but what they have in place is functional, and I've never had trouble finding a location by visual scanning either.
I agree with some of the info in the reddit post, and didn't think they needed to be addressed one way or the other. Overall very poor post, I have some mixed feelings on the mechanics of the game. There are far more errors in the Reddit post than in mine, which admittedly incorrectly stated that planets rotate, which doesn't seem to be a thing.
test_account
XP-39C²
Thats really crazy. Death threads over some missing features in a game... damn.
Okay, but your inference was still speculation, and you implied it was true. If you're going to blame fans for the current state of NMS, you need better evidence than whether your speculation seems reasonable to you.
Do you think the game has sold more than 700K on Steam and got the biggest concurrent players peak of 2016 on PC because of... the power of PlayStation marketing ?
No Man's Sky hype was at the top as soon as the game was revealed during the VGX 2013. The vision shown in that trailer was enough to capture everyone's dreams.
The poster asked how the guy was on chat shows, the Colbert report, etc. The answer is because they had Sony behind them.
This is true. I've seen predators attack and kill herbivores, and herbivores run away from predators, but never eating. And, as I said, I've also seen predators swimming in a pack of their presumed prey and neither reacting.
Pestilence11
Member
Why do you keep regurgitating these things? It barely touches upon the major things missing that were shown and talked about as close as 4 months ago.