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Reggie Fils-Aime WSJ Interview: Amiibos & Skylanders, Wii U Sales, future plans

SalvaPot

Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065233

WIU | 16.413
PSV | 11.363
PS4 | 10.822

I'd recommend you visiting the thread, before he does, as he stands correct.



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065233

Media Create weekly sales

This is a better comparison, sales in japan, we are on week 69 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

PS4_LTD_w69_zpsgp3yzp3x.png
 
So where exactly does it says the NX is their next home console? It says they are working on one, but they don´t say NX is it.

NX could still be the handheld and the next console still doesn´t have a public codename. Come on people stop jumping to conclusions.

NX is the only upcoming platform they've publicly announced.

"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console"

Therefore NX is the home console. I think Tanabe and Reggie inadvertently spoiled the surprise.
 

SalvaPot

Member
NX is the only upcoming platform they've publicly announced.

"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console"

Therefore NX is the home console. I think Tanabe and Reggie inadvertently spoiled the surprise.

I agree, but your title is still false, this is no confirmation, is just a vague quip that can be interpreted this way if you tie the dots together and that even then still leaves room for doubt.
 

Glass Joe

Member
Is there any sort of evidence at all that they are going this route? All I've seen is baseless speculation.

At the investers meetings, Iwata has discussed their challenges in porting console games to handhelds and vice versa, and how they want a unified operating system starting with NX. It is speculation, but not baseless. They don't want to make "Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS" with two major teams when they could simply use one for "Super Smash Bros for NX" and toggle on graphics effects and other settings to make it run on both.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Don't ignore the more important number.

Wii U this year: 249.592
PS4 this year: 552.804
Wii U sales in a handful of weeks is hardly indicative of a larger trend. There's no way you don't realize this.

Don't ignore the LTD #'s

Where are we going with this? The user was correct. Now were all arguing about technicalities ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
I agree, but your title is still false, this is no confirmation, is just a vague quip that can be interpreted this way if you tie the dots together and that even then still leaves room for doubt.

If we assume reggie isn't lying or misspeaking, there's really no room for debate on this.
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Don't ignore the LTD #'s

Where are we going with this? The user was correct. Now were all arguing about technicalities ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
This is arthands' comment:
Its actually doing better than PS4 and Vita in Japan too, 2nd best selling system. Not that it means anything of cause (despite what the vita fans will want you to think about 2nd place position in Japan).
The first part is factually incorrect. You're spinning it at best and lying at worst. Dead on in the 2nd bit though, for sure.
 

Crayolan

Member
Can a mod change the title to "implies that NX is a home console"?

It's not a confirmation until they outright say "The NX is Nintendo's next home console."

However, since he mentions that they've already spoken about their next home console, this does seem to point at that.
 

ironcreed

Banned
Yes, it's pretty apparent that the Wii U is being escorted out the back door and the next system is right around the corner. Can't wait to see what they are up to.
 
Don't ignore the LTD #'s

Where are we going with this? The user was correct. Now were all arguing about technicalities. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The Wii U has been on the market for over a year more than the PS4. The fact of the matter is that in this year the Wii U is not doing better than the PS4.
 
I haven't bought a Nintendo console at launch ever (by the time I became old enough to have my own steady income, it was the Gamecube era) and I have been disappointed in every Nintendo console from the Gamecube on.

So why am I so excited about this?
 

Calamari41

41 > 38
NX is the only upcoming platform they've publicly announced.

"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console"

Therefore NX is the home console. I think Tanabe and Reggie inadvertently spoiled the surprise.

People seem to be strangely invested in the NX not being a home console, to the point where they come up with some convoluted logic to prove it to themselves. I can't figure out why.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
The Wii U has been on the market for over a year more than the PS4. The fact of the matter is that in this year the Wii U is not doing better than the PS4.

I think you need to stand back, see what was written and to whom the posts were targeted to, and rethink this for a moment.

We are going off topic

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

Madness

Member
The time frame that these consoles are on is long? Who told you to release the Wii U in 2012 with few games lined up?

Also, that's even worse that with more varied sales worldwide such as in Europe and Japan that you're getting outsold by Microsoft which is pretty much US/CAN/UK/Australia.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
NX is the only upcoming platform they've publicly announced.

"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console"

Therefore NX is the home console. I think Tanabe and Reggie inadvertently spoiled the surprise.

I get what you mean. But Nintendo has already confirmed publicly about the successor before the NX though.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ccessor-until-it-has-satisfied-current-owners

So Reggie is actually referring to this when he said they are already hard at work on the next home console. He didn't directly confirm it is NX.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
That quote doesn't preclude a handheld/home unified platform, though...

It's not going to happen, because Nintendo is never going to risk having their only platform being a WiiU level of sales failure.

Like, can you imagine how bad things would have been for Nintendo this gen if they didn't have the 3DS to fall back on?
 

jmizzal

Member
Is that from the same question? It doesn't feel like it. I need some context.

"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console"

NX is the thing they have talked publicly about they are working on, its obvious what he is talking about
 
Its actually doing better than PS4 and Vita in Japan too, 2nd best selling system. Not that it means anything of cause (despite what the vita fans will want you to think about 2nd place position in Japan).

Bullshit

WIU - YTD 249.592
VITA - YTD 464.513
Playstation 4 - YTD 552.804

Close to 2:1 in favor of the Playstation 4 this year.
 

Calamari41

41 > 38
"We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console"

NX is the thing they have talked publicly about they are working on, its obvious what he is talking about

"Well Nintendo also said that they weren't going to develop mobile games" is something that somebody will say pretty soon here to prove that the NX is a handheld.
 

Glass Joe

Member
It's not going to happen, because Nintendo is never going to risk having their only platform being a WiiU level of sales failure.

Like, can you imagine how bad things would have been for Nintendo this gen if they didn't have the 3DS to fall back on?

I think by "unified platform" he just means that there will be both a console and a handheld version. In theory the console NX could fail while the portable NX sells gangbusters, meaning they'd still have a 3DS-like device to fall back on.
 
I think by "unified platform" he just means that there will be both a console and a handheld version. In theory the console NX could fail while the portable NX sells gangbusters, meaning they'd still have a 3DS-like device to fall back on.

An unified concept would hold down the portable and console version.

Not sure why that nonsesne is a thing around the internet.
 

Glass Joe

Member
Bullshit

WIU - YTD 249.592
VITA - YTD 464.513
Playstation 4 - YTD 552.804

Close to 2:1 in favor of the Playstation 4 this year.

So I guess I could say the Wii U has sold more than the PlayStation 3 in Japan, then?

I'm not actually claiming that, I'm just stating that "the Wii U has sold more than the PlayStation 4" is NOT a false statement. No I don't think that will last forever, but if you use a strong word like "bullshit," expect to be called out when you're picking your own measurements.
 

Glass Joe

Member
An unified concept would hold down the portable and console version.

Not sure why that nonsesne is a thing around the internet.

Because Iwata specifically addressed wanting them to share the same operating system and complained about the challenges of porting games back and forth between consoles and handhelds? I don't see it as some nonsense rumor, there's substance to it. That doesn't mean every console game will work on the handheld, but the reverse will likely be true.
 

ugly

Member
So where exactly does it says the NX is their next home console? It says they are working on one, but they don´t say NX is it.

NX could still be the handheld and the next console still doesn´t have a public codename. Come on people stop jumping to conclusions.

Well, so little is known about the NX it's sort of a non-issue. Perhaps the NX is separate - what we know is that a new console is in the works, a thing called NX is in the works, and Nintendo has partnered with Dena. There could be crossover there
 

Chindogg

Member
People seem to be strangely invested in the NX not being a home console, to the point where they come up with some convoluted logic to prove it to themselves. I can't figure out why.

NX is probably the home console, as well as the handheld, and any other future hardware they make.

That's why no one thinks it's just a home console.
 

Calamari41

41 > 38
NX is probably the home console, as well as the handheld, and any other future hardware they make.

That's why no one thinks it's just a home console.

I fully agree with that, and have been arguing it for over a year now. But I'm not talking about people who agree with the whole common OS/architecture thing.
 
So I guess I could say the Wii U has sold more than the PlayStation 3 in Japan, then?

I'm not actually claiming that, I'm just stating that "the Wii U has sold more than the PlayStation 4" is NOT a false statement. No I don't think that will last forever, but if you use a strong word like "bullshit," expect to be called out when you're picking your own measurements.

"It's actually doing better" is a pretty clear and wrong statement. It's actually doing worse than the Playstation 4 and Vita and even the lifetime performance is behind the two other hardware plattforms.

Because it came straight out of Iwata's mouth at two different investor meetings.

No, he didn't. He even talk about porting between different plattforms.
 

Calamari41

41 > 38
No, he didn't. He even talk about porting between different plattforms.

I'm not going to pull up the quotes for the 50th time, for the 50th different poster who tried to deny what he said to his investors. I suggest you look them up if you're actually interested in what he said.
 
What a difference a year makes. We were singing Nintendo praises a year ago and are now calling for resignations and petitions. Nintendo fans are a very diverse group.

Nintendo had an "upward tick" the past couple of years. More constant and frequent high quality first party titles, some price drops, etc. meant that they were turning it around.

Then this E3 came and I don't know what the fuck happened to Nintendo. It's like we're back to looking at their 2010 selves, just doing jack shit and not giving a fuck about covering anything that might be intriguing. Spin offs out the ass. The first real look at star fox was underwhelming. Metroid fans get slapped in the face. Turning around and treating Mario Maker as a AAA manor release. And just the general slap in the face that Nintendo has, in fact, abandoned the console after 2.5 years.

It came out of nowhere. It's like Splatoon came out and they COMPLETELY ran out of steam. Many of us are getting whiplash.
 

pixelation

Member
Tired of hearing from Reggie the last few days. I feel like there are 100 threads about something this PR mouthpiece has said. I can't stand how he spins things nowadays. It's ridiculous. I can't believe people even buy it.

I'm with you... i've grown to despise that guy, he lives in la-la-land.
 

Jay RaR

Member
We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later.

Yeesh, and I thought the NX would primarily be a new handheld. It could still be one, but this slip-up assures me I shouldn't get a Wii U at all.
 
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