You won't be seeing many native 4k games on PS4 Pro or Scorpio either most likely.All the PS4 Pro and Scorpio talk makes me sad.
We wont see Zelda or Mario in 4K until 2026
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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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All the PS4 Pro and Scorpio talk makes me sad.
We wont see Zelda or Mario in 4K until 2026
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And it is only 2016.
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Graphics Horse
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What happened at the Wii remote reveal? Looked like the main things were the video and select sites getting hands on reports ready beforehand? I think something like that is very possible, just without a tgs keynote speech this time.
Don't think they need a big stage show to reveal it, but they could do something further in the new year.
Don't think they need a big stage show to reveal it, but they could do something further in the new year.
All the PS4 Pro and Scorpio talk makes me sad.
We wont see Zelda or Mario in 4K until 2026
In all honesty, is 4K that important for Nintendo games? I don't think it is. HDR maybe since Nintendo is a genius when is comes to colour composition but more pixels wouldn't be that essential for a Mario game. Breath of the Wild is another story, but Full HD will be totally fine here as well.
I was shocked we got a sequel in the first place so I ain't complainin lol.
Lupin the Third
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I take it you're zeroing in on my "unremarkable" comment. That's obviously in my own opinion and I obviously haven't seen the cutting-edge demos in person. But the fact is it's all tied into the pursuit of photorealism which is a root cause of the money problems plaguing the industry that has killed off numerous small developers over the past dozen years.
Neither 4k nor HDR would make Nintendo's historical game designs any more immersive or functional unless they pursued the same sort of money-sucking graphics development. (Although I know I certainly would personally appreciate better color depth.)
Edit: Ha, I guess Pikmin might indeed benefit in the eye candy department. But I don't think it would add as much functionally as it would just to increase visual appeal.
Nah I bet he just watches and talks about the show Bones so much his phone autocorrected it to be upper-case
Oh man I didn't think about Pikmin. That could be glorious in 4K.
Shadowheart
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In this day and age, I think they can announce and release within 3 months. I imagine everybody will be talking about the next Nintendo.
Checkerboard rendering man.
Mithos
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4K Gamecube graphics or 4K PS4 Pro graphics ? ;P ;P
Does anyone know how price sensitive the Japanese market was towards the 3DS on launch and afterwards? Guessing it was the same as the rest of the world until the price cut.
If Nintendo are continuing to support the 3DS as if there is no successor or replacement for it well into 2017 and 2018, perhaps the NX will be the premium alternative, with better build materials and such. $250 would be an easier pill to swallow in that case.
If Nintendo are continuing to support the 3DS as if there is no successor or replacement for it well into 2017 and 2018, perhaps the NX will be the premium alternative, with better build materials and such. $250 would be an easier pill to swallow in that case.
Now we want checkerboard 1080p on the NX
Mr. Pointy
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A Tegra with tile based rasterisation and checkerboard rendering could probably output 4K resolutions more efficiently than any Polaris solution.
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Rösti
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The closest we have gotten to an official date for NX news is October 26/27 due to Nintendo's FY 2016 Second Quarter Earnings Release and Corporate Management Policy Briefing*/FY 2016 Second Quarter Financial Results Briefing, with potential news conference on October 26.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/schedule/index.html
I know I may be sounding like a broken record here, but this is really the only direct word from Nintendo we have on upcoming events.
I believe checkerboard is patented by Sony. They could probably do something similar though.
The rumour from Eurogamer about the detachable controllers acting as standalone controllers for multiplayer annoys me when looking at the other rumours. They put that rumour out before the other rumour appeared about the detachable controllers acting as Wii Remotes.
So most people thought that the detachable controllers acted as sideways controllers but, I've already gone over why I think that's unlikely.
Looking at this again, we had a conflict occur where one source claimed the right side of the face buttons were above the circle pad, the other said below.
Due to the lack of information about the dev kits, (what model they are) we don't know what the latest dev kit is. I have to look at this in different ways.
I already talked about standalone sideways controllers, now I'm going to talk about standalone Wii Remotes for the detachable controllers.
Emily states that there are at least 2 shoulder buttons, problem is from every mock-up seen from Emily and LPVG have no shoulder buttons sighted.
Some people stated that it probably wasn't important because there wasn't anything special. So the annoyance of subjectivity and conjecture comes into play.
Either there are shoulder buttons but they weren't anything special that they didn't need to be drawn, or maybe they were incorrectly labeled and should have been mentioned as trigger buttons.
The problem is that trigger buttons have also been on shoulders of controllers as seen in the Xbox 360 and PS3, however you'd know from the Wii Remote and the N64 controller that a trigger button is placed behind a controller, not on the shoulder.
So I think that the shoulder buttons mentioned by Emily are actually trigger buttons placed behind the detachable controllers.
Now, about the detachable controllers. I'm starting to think that they are supposed to be symmetric when attached to the NX. That means they should appear as the NX displayed on the right of the image above.
Why? For the sake of symmetry with standalone detachable controllers in multiplayer acting as Wii Remotes. I can imagine that compared to the old Wii Remote, the D-pad is replaced by the circle pad and, the 1,2 buttons are replaced by A,B,X,Y or split D-pad face buttons. The trigger button would be placed behind the controller near the top.
In a sense, I am pointing out how it is similar to the old Wii Remote so that BC using these controllers would be possible. (Via the Virtual Console mind you.)
This is why I couldn't see this working with the asymmetric controllers on Emily's mock-up of the NX. You'd have to flip one of the controller around and whether there's a shoulder button or trigger button on there, it would be flipped to the other side towards your chest. So you can't even have symmetric Wii Remotes, I doubt Nintendo are planning some kind of Asymmetric Wii Remote function that wouldn't apparently cause confusion for consumers.
So I'm thinking that, if the Eurogamer rumour is true about detachable controllers acting as standalone for multiplayer. Then for it to work in Wii Remote style, that means the NX should be the device on the right for the image above which has symmetric detachable controllers.
If the rumour is fake/wrong. Then the detachable controllers don't act as standalone multiplayer controllers and hence the NX device should look like the one on the left that has asymmetric detachable controllers.
(I already gave my reasons on the pages before about why I don't expect standalone detachable sideways controllers for multiplayer, I don't really want to bother with that again.)
So most people thought that the detachable controllers acted as sideways controllers but, I've already gone over why I think that's unlikely.
Looking at this again, we had a conflict occur where one source claimed the right side of the face buttons were above the circle pad, the other said below.
Due to the lack of information about the dev kits, (what model they are) we don't know what the latest dev kit is. I have to look at this in different ways.
I already talked about standalone sideways controllers, now I'm going to talk about standalone Wii Remotes for the detachable controllers.
Emily states that there are at least 2 shoulder buttons, problem is from every mock-up seen from Emily and LPVG have no shoulder buttons sighted.
Some people stated that it probably wasn't important because there wasn't anything special. So the annoyance of subjectivity and conjecture comes into play.
Either there are shoulder buttons but they weren't anything special that they didn't need to be drawn, or maybe they were incorrectly labeled and should have been mentioned as trigger buttons.
The problem is that trigger buttons have also been on shoulders of controllers as seen in the Xbox 360 and PS3, however you'd know from the Wii Remote and the N64 controller that a trigger button is placed behind a controller, not on the shoulder.
So I think that the shoulder buttons mentioned by Emily are actually trigger buttons placed behind the detachable controllers.
Now, about the detachable controllers. I'm starting to think that they are supposed to be symmetric when attached to the NX. That means they should appear as the NX displayed on the right of the image above.
Why? For the sake of symmetry with standalone detachable controllers in multiplayer acting as Wii Remotes. I can imagine that compared to the old Wii Remote, the D-pad is replaced by the circle pad and, the 1,2 buttons are replaced by A,B,X,Y or split D-pad face buttons. The trigger button would be placed behind the controller near the top.
In a sense, I am pointing out how it is similar to the old Wii Remote so that BC using these controllers would be possible. (Via the Virtual Console mind you.)
This is why I couldn't see this working with the asymmetric controllers on Emily's mock-up of the NX. You'd have to flip one of the controller around and whether there's a shoulder button or trigger button on there, it would be flipped to the other side towards your chest. So you can't even have symmetric Wii Remotes, I doubt Nintendo are planning some kind of Asymmetric Wii Remote function that wouldn't apparently cause confusion for consumers.
So I'm thinking that, if the Eurogamer rumour is true about detachable controllers acting as standalone for multiplayer. Then for it to work in Wii Remote style, that means the NX should be the device on the right for the image above which has symmetric detachable controllers.
If the rumour is fake/wrong. Then the detachable controllers don't act as standalone multiplayer controllers and hence the NX device should look like the one on the left that has asymmetric detachable controllers.
(I already gave my reasons on the pages before about why I don't expect standalone detachable sideways controllers for multiplayer, I don't really want to bother with that again.)
All the PS4 Pro and Scorpio talk makes me sad.
We wont see Zelda or Mario in 4K until 2026
Can't you run the gamecube/wii mario and zelda games in 4K right now on Dolphin?
I own a 4k tv and the only 4k content that i see ever being offered are the netflix shows
Do they look better than regular shows? No one can tell the difference
Is 4k in games something really that different?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
A certain implementation - perhaps. Interlaced imaging + reprojection existed in the friggin '80s.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Ok, I must have missed that moment. Thanks.
You're either looking at a 25 inch monitor or blind.
There's a pretty big difference between 1080p and 2160p (4K). Four times the pixels makes
a significant difference in image clarity and detail on a big screen.
Its a 55 inch tv
Ive had several friends in my house and ive showed the "4k fireplace" from netflix to all of em. We all laughed at how stupid it was, but no one said anything about picture quality. Also netflix has some nature shows that are just 4k showcases. Ive showed em to several friends and family. No one was inpressed
Not even me.
Maybe it just dosent work with stremed content
Or maybe 4k aint something that special
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Or just maybe you're sitting naturally at a sufficiently far distance from your tv that normal human vision cannot pick the difference. Try sticking your face in the screen next time ;p
Which is also why Nintendo will push the NX hardware to do more than just pretty up textures!
There's not one exclusive game on the PS3, 360, XbOne or PS4 that has a more impressive physics engine than BoTW and that was done on outdated hardware...
Dark Cloud
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It shows a square box and when I click on it it doesn't work.Can anyone confirm this?
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Rösti
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Dark Cloud
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Omg that's from Amazon? Does that mean the reveal is about to happen on September 21st?Rösti;216476446 said:
Ughh why wouldn't they?
Can anyone confirm this?
No way Nintendo is announcing the launch price and date this month. I also don't see Nintendo keeping the NX name. Fake tweet, no doubt.
Kissenkopf
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DeployThatPizza
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Can anyone confirm this?
Is this real?
Dark Cloud
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Which Amazon is that? Is says "suivre" in the corner. Not sure how Amazon works.
Yeah, that's fake. Someone most likely edited the render values of a tweet.
Just look at their history. When was the last time they gave launch details more than 3 months in advance, let alone 6?
Graphics Horse
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Pretending that tweets appeared and then immediately disappeared is old as Twitter itself
coming from Pikmin 3, which looked absolutely gorgeous, I would love a 4k Pikmin game
honestly ever since Pikmin 3 I feel like that series is the one to benefit from pushing the pretties above all else, even more so than Zelda
ElectricBlanketFire
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That means "follow" in some language. Its twitter.
Holy shit if this is real.
Edit: Most likely fake,ok.
Dark Cloud
Member
So Twitter said it was posted on Amazon? Wow please be true!
Tbh this is reminding me of the KHIII that "popped" up for NX a few weeks ago and was fake lol c
I can't remember
Well...time to move on lol...another day another fake
Kissenkopf
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No way that this is real. Don't get yourself fooled so fast, Gaf.
On the other hand did Amazon leak the Zelda Artwork and a lot of other things. Well...no, it's a fake.
On the other hand did Amazon leak the Zelda Artwork and a lot of other things. Well...no, it's a fake.
Just look up the body of text and you'll find no matching results for it.
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