That glitch was patched when the original Gamecube release came to Europe and has been fixed in all subsequent releases since. Only way it'll be in this is if they used the original Japanese/American Gamecube release as their base and then didn't remember to re-fix that.
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Resident Evil HD Remaster Import Reviews Dropping
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That glitch was patched when the original Gamecube release came to Europe and has been fixed in all subsequent releases since. Only way it'll be in this is if they used the original Japanese/American Gamecube release as their base and then didn't remember to re-fix that.
-MD-
Member
I'm mostly worried about other people not knowing any better and using those shit controls.
So glad it appears to be a solid remaster. Can't wait to revisit the game that introduced me to the genre.
If anyone's interested, a friend of mine is doing a Let's Play of the Japanese version: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGxV8JnoT5QgLoeybeQ9GqPBO_NZJ4ewc
If anyone's interested, a friend of mine is doing a Let's Play of the Japanese version: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGxV8JnoT5QgLoeybeQ9GqPBO_NZJ4ewc
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Whomever is making the OT needs to put this in big bold letters for emphasis.
-MD-
Member
Definitely.
"Character movement in games utilizing tank controls is based on using the up direction on the Analog Stick or D-Pad to move the character forward. Turning is controlled using the left and right directions and the down direction moves the character backwards."
So basically it is the best control scheme for games with fixed angles, yes? If playing these type of games with a "regular" control scheme 'forward' could suddenly become 'backward' depending on the fixed angle? That's insane.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, its actually a very big problem at times. Some areas in the game which have real quick cuts can become a nightmare with the new scheme.
I played the game with the new scheme too, and there's a certain room where you need to press a switch then quickly dash a small distance and push a statue while walls are closing in on you, it was literally impossible with the new scheme.
So despite owning the game on both the Gamecube and the Wii (actually, I own every RE but only actually played 4-6) I've never actually played it (I actually haven't played most classic games because I only got super into gaming in 2009... I've never even played Zelda). I bought them a long time ago and I was a big baby back then and just watched video playthroughs online years ago, like in 2006 when YouTube was new. I'm going to finally play it with this release, and then move on to playing 2, 3, CVX for the first time. (would people be interested in watching a gamer play classics for the first time? It's something I'm seriously considering making a YouTube series of). But I'm wondering who should I play first?
I've always seen people play as Jill, I actually haven't seen the game played through with Chris so I'm thinking of doing that cause it'll be 100% fresh to me. Maybe I should then have my girlfriend play Jill as she also needs to play the game (I think she's played it before, but if so it's been a long time).
I've always seen people play as Jill, I actually haven't seen the game played through with Chris so I'm thinking of doing that cause it'll be 100% fresh to me. Maybe I should then have my girlfriend play Jill as she also needs to play the game (I think she's played it before, but if so it's been a long time).
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If this is your first time then Jill is the safer bet, since she has more inventory slots and gets the Grenade Launcher exclusively, which is incredibly powerful, the acid rounds are more powerful than the Magnum rounds in this game, imo.
Get a feel for the room layout etc, so you know what to pick when as Chris, and don't need to keep making repeat trips to item boxes.
-MD-
Member
That's the problem ^
Is it? I haven't played the original for a while, but remember the wide circles the characters need to turn around to look similarly silly. The new controls seem more responsive, which to me seems like a nice revision.
abstract alien
Member
Isn't there a quick turn around?
I always thought Barry was saying Jiggle Sandwich for a long time.
You're right. For 180° this works fine, but turning in general didn't look especially smooth. It didn't really bother me, but neither do the changed controls.
ConanTheKing
Member
Depends, one way of looking at it is that you had to save sparingly because like other items, resources were low and that meant you had to be careful which fits well with the survival aspect of survival horror.
Miles Quaritch
Member
No need for reviews on this. There's literally no way Capcom could fuck it up.
Not long left. 12 long days until I get to play one of the best RE games ever.
Not long left. 12 long days until I get to play one of the best RE games ever.
abstract alien
Member
The main issue with the changed controls is that they break the game, not really that they are different. You can practically dance around enemies now instead of actually having to me methodical and precise with your movement. There was a clip of someone pretty much taunting a zombie with the new scheme because it's more twitchy, which doesn't fit the design and speed of the game at all.
Im half way through a playthrough on tank controls with zero problems, the only way to play it. Having said that, i didnt test the new system... so it mightn't be that bad, but the tank controls work so well, why mess with a good thing ?
Don't even. There's a pretty good chance this release will be solid, but never say such a thing, especially in this day and age.
StriKeVillain
Banned
It's not like they removed tank controls.
One scheme for purists, another for today's traditional scheme. Seems logical to me.
-MD-
Member
abstract alien
Member
And dont forget Jill has 2 extra inventory slots aswell, along with a lockpick.
I can't honestly see Capcom literally remaking Resident Evil 2... as just Resident Evil 2. I think if they did anything like that they'd remake the first 3 games and roll it all up into a single game, calling it Origins or something. Or leaving the Re-Remake and making a new game around 2 and 3 and call it the Raccoon City Chronicles or whatever.
There's no chance of them just remaking RE2.
SpecialAgentZ
Member
More like a scheme that the game was build upon and a scheme for today's casuals.
The second one subtracts from the game.
That's the problem ^
Disgusting
But if its the 3d controls i think it is(like in some of the SH games), they could be alittle annoying too. As in, lets say your running left, the camera angle point of view changes and now you start running in the wrong direction, because from the new angle your no longer running left, your running up instead and you have to adjust with each camera change. The input for Left, right, up and down will change depending on whatever fixed camera view your giving at any given time, which could be annoying for new players. (i think ign complained about this in a preview) whereas tanks controls just work.
Disclaimer - i havnt tried them so it mightn't be as annoying as i think it may be.
That's the problem ^
This is arguably equivalent to what Ted Turner did to black and white movies.
Charlouie Jonesman
Banned
I literally can't grasp people's issues with tank controls either, it's all completly logical, down, you go backwards, up you go forwards and with left and right you turn in that direction.
And yeah, all the enemies were designed around your slow movement and turning, so it's not really an artificial increase in difficulty like somepeople say. Though the new controls are the opposite extreme of that.
But looking at all the playthroughs people have already uploaded on Youtube most people actually seem to pick the new controls. Drives me mad.
And yeah, all the enemies were designed around your slow movement and turning, so it's not really an artificial increase in difficulty like somepeople say. Though the new controls are the opposite extreme of that.
But looking at all the playthroughs people have already uploaded on Youtube most people actually seem to pick the new controls. Drives me mad.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Its the default option, that's why I guess.
SkylineRKR
Member
I feel Chris is easier once you know the game. On the JP saturn version, Chris was labeled as 'Hard' and Jill was Easy. So Chris should be supposed to be more challenging for sure. This is because of his less slots and no handgun right away, etc.
But once you're seasoned, you're taking advantage of his stamina and abundance of shotgun shells. I ended my first Chris run on GC with like 60 shells and had an easier time than with Jill.
I think I'll start Chris.
abstract alien
Member
Maybe if this puts up bigger numbers than Revelations 2 they will take the hint.
Today's traditional scheme as you call it is designed for completely different games with enemy design and movement tailored to that. Sure its just an option but people should be aware its just easy mode by another name. Especially with how they've implemented in this game, it makes navigating around zombies trivial when it shouldn't be.
To me its almost like if Dark Souls had an easy mode with an infinite stamina bar, so game changing it kinda breaks the point of it.
Charlouie Jonesman
Banned
But then, it's not like it's just hidden somewhere in the options menu, literally every time you start a new game you get to choose between the control scheme again and when it says original and arrange, I'd figure most people not familiar with the game would default to original. At least that's what I'd do.
Jawmuncher
Member
I'm totally ruining the RE experience and using the new control scheme and will also be playing on Easy.
For Jill's route since I have beaten it before. Gonna suck it up and go regular for Chris.
For Jill's route since I have beaten it before. Gonna suck it up and go regular for Chris.
Honestly, I think y'all are letting your nostalgia get in the way. Limited saving was never a good idea. Games from the era that had proper save points never made dying any less upsetting and avoiding death any less stressful. Save points weren't like they are now in which you get one automatically every 5 seconds, but at least when you got to one you didn't have to worry about having an item on you that grants your permission to save.
They could've made typewriters save points like in RE4 without ink ribbions and you would still have the stress. They're not around every corner, and chances are you would have done a good amount of stuff between visits in which you can mess up and die and lose progress so the stress would've remained. It's silly just to have to have an item on you to do it.
Also I'm not specifically talking about this release, they shouldn't have changed it which they didn't as to stay true to the original game. I'm saying the originals shouldn't have had ink ribbions in the first place. Typewriters are sparse as they are, no need to throw a third-party in there. It honestly feels like a cheap gimmick to pad gametime.
They could've made typewriters save points like in RE4 without ink ribbions and you would still have the stress. They're not around every corner, and chances are you would have done a good amount of stuff between visits in which you can mess up and die and lose progress so the stress would've remained. It's silly just to have to have an item on you to do it.
Also I'm not specifically talking about this release, they shouldn't have changed it which they didn't as to stay true to the original game. I'm saying the originals shouldn't have had ink ribbions in the first place. Typewriters are sparse as they are, no need to throw a third-party in there. It honestly feels like a cheap gimmick to pad gametime.
If people at Capcom were fired for bad decisions, it would probably only be Ono left.
Alcoholikaust
Member
not sure if serious...
Alien Isolation shows how useful it can be, auto saves around ever corner these days have made you weak!
Visualante2
Member
I have the GameCube version and didn't enjoy it because the save structure. Shame they didn't add an option for retries. Probably won't pick this up now, certainly not at full price.
People always moan about this type of stuff in horror movies, when the protagonist ignores his or her objective (escape/survival) to go do something irrelevant. But in a game it's somehow applauded.
StriKeVillain
Banned
But you have the option of playing it your way. Why does it matter to you what control scheme a new player uses?
Jawmuncher
Member
While you still needed the item later on I know some games just had infinite ink ribbon items on easier difficulties. While I agree the point was always to prevent people from being able to play it completely safe with the limited number of saves in the original. Though you're right that depending on the situation and how the player plays infinite saves in the vein of RE4 would have made no difference in the tense environment. Since limited ammunition and the sort would still be there if you saved. And