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Rumor: Ex-Sony Bend dev talks about Syphon Filter, new game & a ditched Uncharted
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Kresnik258
Member
Not surprised.
A studio with that much of a pedigree from the last gen for making handheld stuff jumping to PS4 seemed a bit off to me.
I didn't like Uncharted Golden Abyss, but I thought they did a good job with it and had a good foundation (both in that series and through that engine) to do other things on Vita.
A shame the other projects didn't pull through. I'd love an InFAMOUS Vita title; the sci-fi cancelled project sounded like it had potential.
A studio with that much of a pedigree from the last gen for making handheld stuff jumping to PS4 seemed a bit off to me.
I didn't like Uncharted Golden Abyss, but I thought they did a good job with it and had a good foundation (both in that series and through that engine) to do other things on Vita.
A shame the other projects didn't pull through. I'd love an InFAMOUS Vita title; the sci-fi cancelled project sounded like it had potential.
Miles Quaritch
Member
What about it doesn't sound amazing?
Futuristic sci-fi environment with what I imagine are lots of very high buildings, etc and a very agile character thanks to jet boots. The potential is off the charts.
Elitist1945
Member
Sony basically lets Naughty Dog do what they want, I think.
Sony wanted a gritty shooter
http://www.nowgamer.com/naughty-dog-gritty-xbox-shooters-shaped-uncharted/
Mass_Pincup
Banned
They're Sony's best studio currently so I guess Sony didn't want to mess with then risking to lose talent over a Vita game.
I think the word for that is "respect"
If you had created Uncharted and The Last of Us, I think you'd expect it too
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Also what is the deal with this comment:
Hard to say if you should be excited. Theres a group of super talented guys there, and pretty much every project has been chaos till the last 6 mo when they usually work super hard to pull it together.
But theres a lot of burnout right now. Lots of talent has left over the last year'
Way to diminish and scorn your own former team!
Hard to say if you should be excited. Theres a group of super talented guys there, and pretty much every project has been chaos till the last 6 mo when they usually work super hard to pull it together.
But theres a lot of burnout right now. Lots of talent has left over the last year'
Way to diminish and scorn your own former team!
It kinda sounds similar to Sunset Overdrive.
lol
Probably salty.
SolidSnakex
Member
And in those cases you're talking about games that played similarly. You're seeing it right now with Assassin's Creed. A series that's now in yearly releases that isn't changing all that much from release to release. And that's leading to franchise burnout. Yes, quality has to do with it on some level. But it's also about similar structures. That's why you're seeing ND talk about how they're opening U4 up so it's not as linear as it's been in the past. They don't want it to get to a point of franchise burnout. Once U4 releases it'll be four years since the last mainline entry.
Because it doesn't tell you anything other than a setting and a single feature. It's like someone saying that they're making a medieval game where you can cast magic.
revolverjgw
Member
The confirmed death of Syphon Filter is soul crushing.
*tases Blueblur1 until he bursts into flames
*tases Blueblur1 until he bursts into flames
Goodacre0081
Member
you keep your most successful studios happy or you can dictate what they do.
Bungie knows all too well
Can you blame them for being skittish around western IPs on the system? Outside of Uncharted, they've sold double garbage bin numbers. Even critically adored titles like Tearaway couldn't sell shit until it was half off, and those numbers were still goddamned terrible. The Vita audience simply doesn't respond well to those kinds of games.
What baffles me is why Sony had to spend so much money and subsequently shutter a handful of studios to run into the same problem again that plagued them on the PSP with regards to western audience responses to handheld spinoffs of console franchises. They made an awful case for them then, and they didn't fare any better this time around, either.
Tough luck...
It's quite common to get your early projets canned during the pre-production. At least the Uncharted was canned for good reason, and the others probably are casualties of the recent Sony Vita strategy.
I hope that Bend, like Ready At Dawn, will rise to challenge of home console development
It's quite common to get your early projets canned during the pre-production. At least the Uncharted was canned for good reason, and the others probably are casualties of the recent Sony Vita strategy.
I hope that Bend, like Ready At Dawn, will rise to challenge of home console development
Mass_Pincup
Banned
If I were Sony I would ask small studios and indies to develop new installement in their old IPs, they could release it on PSN only
or as Vita exclusives
I remember some insider (maybe Verendus?) saying that they'll be doing something along those lines starting 2016, I hope that's true.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Golden abyss was a pretty good game, its just held back by absurd amounts of cramming vita features into it.
I am scarred for life over the cancelation of Prey 2.Prey 2 has such a death stench it cancels prototypes at different publishers.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
That's rather rude.. :\
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I get ye, yeah, Vita games aren't sellers in many ways. Where it all gets a bit silly is Bend have thus been prototyping and producing nothing since 2011 because so much of it got nixed. Like, if just one project had gone through, they'd be onto the next one by now anyway. Instead theres just this huge gap there where Sony were still paying wages but not actually seeing anything to bolster libraries. Thats opportunity cost and Sony's software heads have gotten REALLY shit with that. I invoke The Last Guardian as the ultimate example.
I'm just upset seeing all those Vita games never seeing the light of day.
Infamous Vita did seem to be real then...though seemingly didn't get far, if at all.
How sad, while I love my Vita, I'm hesistant supporting Sony for their next portable if they so choose, (Which would be cool as it would seemingly have a 1088p screen if the res is doubled again like it has been since PSP). If they're just gonna drop all the support when its not going well (Unlike the PS3 where they pushed for years and eventually got it to a great spot), then thats just poor support, and while there are gems on it, I just feel massively sad comparing it (in my head) to the console I know it could be and deserves to be.
Infamous Vita did seem to be real then...though seemingly didn't get far, if at all.
How sad, while I love my Vita, I'm hesistant supporting Sony for their next portable if they so choose, (Which would be cool as it would seemingly have a 1088p screen if the res is doubled again like it has been since PSP). If they're just gonna drop all the support when its not going well (Unlike the PS3 where they pushed for years and eventually got it to a great spot), then thats just poor support, and while there are gems on it, I just feel massively sad comparing it (in my head) to the console I know it could be and deserves to be.
It was the opposite, FPS games were booming & Sony wanted an FPS, but Amy wanted a cinematic TPS, which didn't exist at the time.
I could be wrong in a few details but I'm 100% sure that Sony wanted Uncharted to be something else.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Wait some people surprise that ND has rank at Sony ?
This is the studio that made 2 new IPs that sold millions and won hundreds of goty awards.
Of course sony is going want to keep them happy.
This is the studio that made 2 new IPs that sold millions and won hundreds of goty awards.
Of course sony is going want to keep them happy.
Chobel
Member
Still, you'd think she signed some NDAs and stuff that's forbid her from talking about her ex company publicly, especially stuff like "But theres a lot of burnout right now. Lots of talent has left over the last year"
Garrett Hawke
Member
The canned Vita games though
imo it's the best handheld I've ever owned. I just wish there was more content for it.
imo it's the best handheld I've ever owned. I just wish there was more content for it.
Dragon1893
Member
Good call.
Shame about this one though, would've liked an Infamous on Vita. There was a pretty gap between I2 and SS that they could've filled nicely with a Vita title.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Not surprised they would can the Vita games. With the way Vita games sell they wouldn't cover those dev costs.
In addition to rocket boots, Prey 2 had a grappling hook that let you scale buildings, participate in rooftop races and search for secrets tucked away in the back alleys of Exodus.
LiquidSolid
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't even a Naughty Dog specific thing though and is instead a SCEWWS thing. It makes sense to give studios complete control over the franchises they've made, regardless of whether Sony could make some money on the side.
It's more like Sony's big studios have the freedom to do whatever they want as long as their projects are maximizing profit.
We've seen countless interviews where devs from ND, SSM, MM, & Japan Studio said they have complete freedom to do whatever they want & Sony just writes checks. I don't know why nobody believed them.
Trigonometrize.
Member
Can't wait for inFamous Vita in that case.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
I don't think so, they're only 50 and the engine was already up and running, at least they would've made back some money if they released a game then right now with nothing but cancelled projects.
Pound_lb003
Member
Expecting people who left, to be positive about the place is kinda unrealistic.
But I don't doubt what she's saying. There's always two sides to that kinda story.
But I don't doubt what she's saying. There's always two sides to that kinda story.
Hero of Legend
Member
I want to see Bend take on Jak. They seem to be the new "second" dev of Naughty Dog and Insomniac, and now kinda maybe sorta Sucker Punch (Sanzaru more or less holds this title at the moment).
I wish Bend got to do Resistance on Vita. Retribution was pretty cool and got fantastic reception seemingly. What on Earth did Sony see in Nihilistic?
I wish Bend got to do Resistance on Vita. Retribution was pretty cool and got fantastic reception seemingly. What on Earth did Sony see in Nihilistic?
Damn. That would've indeed been really awesome. Not sure I like that the Vita gets the bad ending, though. Vita means life you know
Someone who could get a game done in a very short time frame to help with genre diversification on the system. A trick so nice, they did it twice with Call of Duty!
last time these guys made a platformer it didn't turn out so hot
as for nihilistic
probably got that contract cheap
after all their first game was move exclusive