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[thuway]

The major titles and upcoming releases will probably all begin to adopt some sort of online only policy. Last generation this was more of a concern, but this generation with games like Destiny, the Crew, and the upcoming Free to Play Mobas - I think most people will prefer playing with friends and keep their consoles stock.

On the other hand it should be a very fun time time for those of us curious about emulators and trying to get the PS4 to do tricks it shouldn't be doing.

 

[Stike]

Unless we get some "Hello World" printed by the OS, I don't see all that happening.

Hacking Webkit, pfff...

 

[jmga]

Wiiu has been "jailbroken" for yonks yet the data execution module has prevented piracy, same will happen with ps4.

What? WiiU can already load backups with a really "easy" software method.

 

[Head.spawn]

Put SteamOS on it.

 

[darkwing]

I hope Sony fix this soon. Right now, Sony and some Japanese publishers pushing Asia market really hard, some games even got localization that NA and EU didn't. If this turns out popular, well...

how? you can just spoof console ids, I don't think Sony ever bothered to fix it after that happened on the PS3

 

[Ghost Slayer]

how? you can just spoof console ids, I don't think Sony ever bothered to fix it after that happened on the PS3

That's why I hope dude :3

 

[Business]

Let's just hope it doesn't ruin online.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Let's just hope it doesn't ruin online.

would be hilarious if they need to buy PS+ to hack online

 

[QaaQer]

What? WiiU can already load backups with a really "easy" software method.

Unless something has changed, not wiiu games.

 

[luca_29_bg]

Great news for the overseas friends but I don't see this being a major factor in popular markets unless there's an easy exploit. If it's as simple as download a few files, putting them on your USB, and plugging them in the console. All hell will break loose.

Microsoft might get a few exclusive deals out of it.

it's a software exploit so yeah it will be in this way!

 

[luca_29_bg]

This doesn't mean it can run pirated games though, correct?

For now not, it's only a matter of time....

 

[dragonelite]

PUT LINUX ON IT!

This is for piracy, right? But who wants to download 50 gigs of data? (Pirates, I guess.)

Not everybody has low bandwidth or download caps

 

[liquidtmd]

What? WiiU can already load backups with a really "easy" software method.

Wii games in Wii mode - yes.
WiiU games - no

 

[KOCMOHABT]

to the people saying install w10 or SteamOS on it... isn't the PS4 actually too weak to play any recent games in their PC versions?

I mean the specs themselves are really not impressive at all compared to the requirements most games have. I can't imagine Witcher3 or Batman running well at all

 

[luca_29_bg]

Wiiu has been "jailbroken" for yonks yet the data execution module has prevented piracy, same will happen with ps4.

hackers already are playing games with this exploit...

 

[cheesekao]

to the people saying install w10 or SteamOS on it... isn't the PS4 actually too weak to play any recent games in their PC versions?

I mean the specs themselves are really not impressive at all compared to the requirements most games have. I can't imagine Witcher3 or Batman running well at all

Graphics settings are a thing.

 

[test_account]

how? you can just spoof console ids, I don't think Sony ever bothered to fix it after that happened on the PS3

You still need a valid one for PS3, unless things changed. Before, you couldnt connect by just using any ConsoleID, it had to be a valid one.

 

[luca_29_bg]

Unless we get some "Hello World" printed by the OS, I don't see all that happening.

Hacking Webkit, pfff...

they have a kernel exploit, and are out of the sandbox and are patching the ram. It's enough ? It's no more webkit hacking for a while,but it started from it.

 

[Krigaren]

Unless something has changed, not wiiu games.

Wii games in Wii mode - yes.
WiiU games - no

Yes, with Wii U games as well. For the past couple of months the Wii U scene has almost completely broken the Wii U.

 

[KOCMOHABT]

Graphics settings are a thing.

Yes except Batman runs badly even on current high end cards, and I don't think the PC version is optimized for a 1.8Ghz multicore at all. Having the main thread on such a slow processor is a big problem, but can be addressed more easily for consoles obviously.

EDIT: 1.6 Ghz. My bad. AMD. Basically 2x AMD A4-5100?

 

[cheesekao]

Yes except Batman runs badly even on current high end cards, and I don't think the PC version is optimized for a 1.8Ghz multicore at all. Having the main thread on such a slow processor is a big problem, but can be addressed more easily for consoles obviously.

Batman is hardly a good comparison since it runs like ass on many PCs

 

[liquidtmd]

to the people saying install w10 or SteamOS on it... isn't the PS4 actually too weak to play any recent games in their PC versions?

I mean the specs themselves are really not impressive at all compared to the requirements most games have. I can't imagine Witcher3 or Batman running well at all

Irony

 

[Living Proof]

I'm pretty sure the Wii U has been able to play retail games for quite some time, or at least within the past few months.

You can't perform the necessary software hack on new firmware, but it's 100% possible to run retail/eshop game dumps.

 

[QaaQer]

hackers already are playing games with this exploit...

Proof? And how long till actual mass piracy? It's the same with vita, 3ds, x1, etc. Getting to the point where someone can softmod a console then download a dump and start playing is not like in the DS, PSP, Wii days.

 

[Ahasverus]

Consoles sales to be quadrupled, game sales to be halved.

 

[test_account]

Unless we get some "Hello World" printed by the OS, I don't see all that happening.

Hacking Webkit, pfff...

they have a kernel exploit, and are out of the sandbox and are patching the ram. It's enough ? It's no more webkit hacking for a while,but it started from it.

I dont think that they hacked the Webkit in that regards. They used the Webkit as an entry point. From what i know, they still have to use the Webkit for these things.

 

[Anteater]

Install Windows on it

 

[Jinfash]

Maybe someone will figure out how to enable external hard drives with. Maybe that will force Sony to push it up the priority list.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Great news, if it gets fully cracked it'll be an awesome day for homebrew devs.

Just think, the original Xbox was an x86 console and it was the best homebrew machine in history because of that. I can't even imagine what it'd be like in this day and age when both consoles this gen are x86.

 

[CambriaRising]

Someone pls make folders thanx

 

[orava]

Someone pls make folders thanx

There is a tool that can make this:

 

[KurtSloane]

Well I hope Sony lock this down, anyone caught using exploits should lose their account and digital library access.

Ruining the experience of other paying customers should be net with punitive measures. If they make it clear from the beginning that if you do this, here are the punishments, then I would have no sympathy for anyone who gets punished.

 

[test_account]

There is a tool that can make this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMfJ0o5XAAA-gP9.jpg

Thats a file system browser. Making folders there wont make them appear in the the PS4 UI

 

[oti]

I kinda want to see a totally messed up Destiny tbh.

 

[m00h]

Yes, give me homebrew on my PS4! Also so much unnecessary speculation mixed up with very strong feelings in this thread.

 

[DownGrader]

Proof? And how long till actual mass piracy? It's the same with vita, 3ds, x1, etc. Getting to the point where someone can softmod a console then download a dump and start playing is not like in the DS, PSP, Wii days.

This one is fully hacked and exploited by (relatively) many people. Not en masse like Wii and DS, of course, but I think no console can top that.

 

[SpookyFries]

Time to dump P.T. so we can preserve it forever

 

[orava]

Thats a file system browser. Making folders there wont make them appear in the the PS4 UI

Right. My bad. But they now have access to the file system and the ui process so it could be possible to that.

 

[test_account]

Right. My bad. But they now have access to the file system and the ui process so it could be possible to that.

True, but there is still a lot more that needs to be done. They need a way to execute the code.

 

[DownGrader]

Time to dump P.T. so we can preserve it forever

If there's one good thing that came out of software piracy, it is pirates' possibility to preserve any piece of executable code.

 

[luca_29_bg]

Proof? And how long till actual mass piracy? It's the same with vita, 3ds, x1, etc. Getting to the point where someone can softmod a console then download a dump and start playing is not like in the DS, PSP, Wii days.

i don't know but it will end up in a way similar to ps3 scene, it's a software mod, no hardware involved. For now it's on 1.76 firmware but will be like ps3 with cwf. And for hackers playing games i read a twitter conversation between some hackers guys, they are working on it from months now, it's not a fresh thing.

 

[StereoVsn]

Why in the world isn't there hardware encryption in the modern consoles. It's fairly easy to embed TPM chips now days and then you have pretty damn strong hardware lock.

 

[luca_29_bg]

I dont think that they hacked the Webkit in that regards. They used the Webkit as an entry point. From what i know, they still have to use the Webkit for these things.

for now, but if they can patch ram can do very clever things and go much further!

 

[Storm Chamber]

Just in time

 

[Live Free or Die]

Hopefully Sony patches it so these pirates cant do anymore damage.

 

[Stike]

Let's just hope Sony did use the randomize command this time before creating the encryption key...

 

[test_account]

for now, but if they can patch ram can do very clever things and go much further!

But how is the normal user going to be able to apply those changes without an entry point? The entry point so far is Webkit, and i'm sure that they also need this for the RAM patching (what does this result in by the way? Any info/proof regarding that?). If that entry point was closed after firmware 1.76, most people wont be able to use it. Its the same with PS3. If you update past firmware 3.56 (or maybe its 3.60), you cant apply the hacks.

 

[DieH@rd]

Let's just hope Sony did use the randomize command this time before creating the encryption key...

 

[etta]

Can't wait for someone to put Windows 10 on a PS4. Assuming it's real.

Halo to finally come to PS4!

 

[sturgboski]

Hooray piracy and people exploiting in multiplayer. Its not like lag switches and the like weren't enough of a problem...