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Sonic Mania - Pre-Order Trailer (out August 15th)
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Tarin02543
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TheDinoman
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Damn, was just about to post that. Sounds groovy.
Sir_Crocodile
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Story wise I understand that very well, at least in my own head cannon. When it was discussed they talked about the process of charging them again and then getting Hyper Sonic, Hyper Knuckles etc. Ever since making Sonic 3, Iizuka wanted to go back just to the name Super, making sure fans arent always looking for the next big power up and they specifically mentioned how Dragon Ball just gets out of hand with that. And not just the term Super but no more gameplay mechanics involving getting them twice over/enhancing them.
What that means for Super Tails is anyone's guess.
The design of the Emeralds is a non-issue. The bottom line is there will be no Hyper Sonic and the reasons stated above are why we have not had any mention of Hyper Sonic since its debute in 3&K.
Did they say if Super Sonic would have the Hyper Flash (or I guess they'd call it a Super Flash now lol)?
Or is he going to be exactly as he was in S3?
Cheers.
RomanceDawn
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None of that was discussed so we'll just have to wait and see.
I'm going to get my stuff signed by them today so I will ask questions.
TetraxShards
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So good. Every track released from this game has been superb.
Stay winning, Tee Lopes
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Seriously, this game has GOTY potential. It just looks so SOLID.
Brian_FETO
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Game of the forever
RIP everything
RIP everything
That sounds promising to those of us that hated the special stages in CD. Fingers crossed they work out well, because they really seem to be nailing everything else.
Nocturnowl
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Did the release date move up or was I just odd for thinking it was late August?
Needs more Hoobastank,
We're in agreement once more.
Needs more Hoobastank,
said no one ever.
The reason I don't buy this theory is because basically every art asset in that shot is original, not from Stardust Speedway. From a game dev perspective, like, obviously the benefit of reusing classic levels is that you can reuse their assets from the original games (though obviously they touch them up and add new variations or backgrounds). Making an entirely new level's worth of art for an Act 2 seems like a waste when that time and effort could be spent on an actual new level instead.
Yeah Chemical Plant act 2 still has original assets.
That pic have 0 assets from Stardust Speedway
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Yeah Chemical Plant act 2 still has original assets.
That pic have 0 assets from Stardust Speedway
I can see the argument, but keep in mind that the stage is from Sonic CD, which in CD had four different versions of each stage that actually were often radically different from each other. There's a slim chance this isn't even the second act but the stage has a time travel mechanic they haven't shown off yet (though I personally bet it's Act 2). We won't know until we know but if there's any zone that could get radically different in its tone and assets, it'd be a Sonic CD stage.
Like the color scheme even looks similar to the Good Futures of Sonic CD:
It doesn't look different to the original's Good Future which is one thing against it being so, but then each Act 2 is supposed to be a big remix of the original and going into the cathedrals in the background of the level would be a pretty big mix-up.
Ristifer
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It's a neat theory, but I still think it's a new zone. They name every other zone in that booklet. Maybe they want to save that future transition as a surprise for Stardust Speedway and so they don't label it? But my gut tells me that it's a new zone that they don't want to name at this point.
Trailer upload was 30fps, game is 60 yeah
I'm okay with no Super Emeralds, when this game sells well and reviews well, and the Sonic Mania team is given clearance/budget to develop a brand new game (Sonic Mania 2/Sonic "xxxxxx") with 100% new content, I would imagine Hyper Sonic would make an appearance.
That looks like the half pipe mixed with blue sphere.
Can you please let the damn half pipe die Sega?
Mr. Smiley
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It's not the half pipe.
There is no pipe at all. It's more of a Sonic CD flat plane.
I love the half pipe! Why must you hurt me so, Kinsei?
Aaron Strife
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Someone on retro said the cherry blossom level is called Sakura Synagogue but I have no idea if that was ever sourced.
Dead End Irony
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4chan "leak." You know how that goes.
That's good.
That cutscene literally shows them transforming into the super emeralds. The chaos emeralds fly into the air and come back down as the inert super emeralds.
That art is from Mania. Prior to becoming the super emeralds, the design of the chaos emeralds was a little chaotic.
1 and 3 are consistent, though.
And the only depiction we have of the chaos emeralds in 3D showing them from multiple 3D angles is from Sonic 3's special stage, where they are depicted as round cut, specifically dodecahedrons:
And if you want to count 3D Blast that also showed them as a round cut:
The whole super emerald thing was only created as a contrivance to justify both halves of Sonic 3 having their own set of special stages and a way to have both sets in 1 game when locked-on. It's the only game where you have to collect the emeralds twice so they needed to differentiate between them. Afterwards they had no reason to call them something other than chaos emeralds and they retained their super forms and roles, with Hyper Sonic basically just being renamed Super Sonic.
I would also prefer that if they bring back Hyper Sonic's double jump for Super Sonic they get rid of the part where it kills all enemies on screen.
The Xtortionist
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In the pre-order trailer elevator? idk, maybe because it doesn't have a clear place in the timeline (is it before or after 2?).
CD is represented in the actual game with Stardust Speedway.
Okay, yeah, I remember Somic Team having no clue about that since it was made at the same time as 2.
I'm getting really hyped about Sonic Mania as a massive fan of the original Mega Drive games. That being said, I never played Sonic CD and with all the talk about it going on, is this something I need to do before Mania comes out? I'm thinking I should do it in order to scratch my Sonic itch before getting Mania.
They probably just felt that...
1
2
CD
3
K
M
...muddled the message too much. The message is "Sonic 4 doesn't exist". K was okay since it was after all the numbers, though really they should have left it off, too, since 3&K is 1 game split in 2. But it's a meme.
Maybe they didn't want to start people arguing over silly things like Sonic CD being before or after Sonic 2.
Sonic CD looks and sounds great but the actual level design is quite poor. I would recommend skipping it.
Too OP. Had to be nerfed.Hyper sonic was robbed again....
The Xtortionist
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Friend of Sonic
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I know physical is King, but please don't hold out GAF. Buy it digitally. This is the greatest thing to happen to Sonic in a while and we need it to succeed
Its worth playing if you like classic Sonic. The music is great and its got a cool aesthetic, but the level design is pretty poor.
Someones gonna reply to this and say its not poor, its just different because its less about going from start to finish and more about exploring. Its still poor by that metric, too.
Ok, nice one. I'll give it a go but set the bar a little lower than planned.
Thanks!
Awesome!
Obviously I know they changed the designs, I just thought Mania's explanation was a fun way of explaining it
sonic cd's kinda easy but it's still pretty fun. mess around with the time travel and try to find the robot makers in the past on each stage and you'll probably enjoy it alot more.
If I were to marathon the games I'd probably go 1 2 3k cd mania. I feel like CD's presentation is a step up from genesis. It's a good game to play before Mania and there's alot of really interesting things to it. The metal sonic boss is also very fun. all of the bosses are very unique and not like what you see in most sonic games.
Mr. Smiley
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Sorry if I missed this, but does anyone know if Mania has the instant/one-button-input spin dash from Generations?
Nocturnowl
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CD is when you take the stairs to the second floor instead of the elevator.
The Xtortionist
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christ
Triforce141
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1 Button Spin Dash is not in Sonic Mania, it's kind of not needed since the Drop Dash exists, but the option would've been nice
Funny how for a series all about keeping up the speed, its trademark move requires you to completely stop in place
NoKisum
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So a physical version is not happening at this point, correct?
I've been sitting on the Collector's Edition in the event that they surprise people by throwing in a physical version. But it's starting to look less and less likely, and I'm not very attached to the stuff in the set.
Also, I see that the Sonic Mania vinyl is up for pre-order finally. Does Data Discs sell and ship to NA? Or are they EU only?
I've been sitting on the Collector's Edition in the event that they surprise people by throwing in a physical version. But it's starting to look less and less likely, and I'm not very attached to the stuff in the set.
Also, I see that the Sonic Mania vinyl is up for pre-order finally. Does Data Discs sell and ship to NA? Or are they EU only?
Probably cause the series was never about keeping up the speed
It's got a really good port, but the game itself has exceedingly poor level design that beside being confusing, doesn't fit Sonic at all and the special stages are hard to control. Some of the bosses are ok, but the rest is not worth it.
Shadowhaxor
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There was never going to be a physical edition. Just the CE with the code to DL the game.
Triforce141
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Still, why couldn't the spin dash have a dedicated button, Sonic 3D Blast got it right and that game was less speed more exploration?
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