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Sonic Mania - Pre-Order Trailer (out August 15th)
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When they split Sonic 3 into two games they needed each half to have its own set of emeralds, and then they needed a reason to justify making you collect each emerald twice when you linked the games together, and Hyper Sonic became a reward for spending $100+ for the full game. Going forward the chaos emeralds never went back to their non-super forms and air dashing became part of Sonic's normal movepool in the Modern games anyway. Who really wants to do 14 special stages anyway?
Maybe they could do something like hide red rings in every stage, and if you collect all of the chaos emeralds + red rings you get Hyper Sonic.
stan423321
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I do, when they're really good and not t&e, and length of the game is adequate. 3&K special stages qualified. That said, yeah, that particular feature was clearly a workaround for the game being split.
Tarin02543
Member
I swear I saw screenshots of the special stages a few months ago, it was Sonic 3 blue & red balls.
Octavianus
Banned
Not a huge sonic fan at all, but this looks miles better than anything sonic team has done in decades.
Also, I love sonics designs both in the old official art, in-game and in the animation used with this trailer. You have to really try your best to screw sonics design up as much as they did with 'modern' sonic.
Also, I love sonics designs both in the old official art, in-game and in the animation used with this trailer. You have to really try your best to screw sonics design up as much as they did with 'modern' sonic.
They later clarified that it wasn't Mania in that image.
It could still be Blue Sphere but the picture seems to be from another project.
bryanee
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I really hope they're not inspired by the special stages in Sonic 2. For the life of me I cant get good at those ones.
Man, if there was one system from modern Sonic that would work great in this game, it'd be red rings. These levels are huge - giving incentive to really explore every path would be a great addition.
Solid SOAP
Member
Yea, I'm hoping they incentivize you to explore the levels. They're so much bigger than the classic levels, they really should use that level design!
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Sonic , as a character, has always been interesting to me but i have never been a fan of the series, not as a kid and certainly not now. it's a bit of an odd position to be in because i really want this to be a game i can enjoy but i know it'll probably be more of the same of what i hate about the old games. Still keeping my pre-order up for now.
(Only games I have beaten were Sonic Adventure, Generations and Colors; Colors being the only game i truly enjoyed )
(Only games I have beaten were Sonic Adventure, Generations and Colors; Colors being the only game i truly enjoyed )
Sonic Advance 2 sorta did it with its special stage unlock method.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLRFjKcQ8kc
Every level had 7 special rings you had to collect in order to access the special stage. This was poorly done because you had to collect all 7 rings in one go and collecting them only gave you 1 chance to beat one of level of the most frustrating special stages Sonic has ever had. And if you want to play as Amy Rose you have to do this with 28 times (collect all 7 emeralds with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, AND Cream).
The way I'd do it is like Star Coins in the Mario games. Make the red rings well hidden and once you've collected one you've collected it. You don't have to get them all in one go. And just collecting them unlocks whatever they unlock.
GabeTheGrouch76
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I'd like Mania to have collectables too, but I'd rather they use something else aside of Red Rings. IMO their design looks doesn't mesh with the Genesis aesthetic; and they overall more like a metagame--something you'd see in a menu or an achievements list rather than something that reasonably fits within Sonic's world. Like you could instead collect golden Flickies (think 3D Blast); or non-collectable actions like activating ancient starposts or destroying "offline" monitors.
Moreover, Red Rings from past experience have only been utilized for unlockables independent of the game world (such as the Super Sonic mode, music, concept art, or unlocking skill movesets). If Mania had collectables, I'd be more interested to see them integrated into the game itself, rather than being something you'd see in the options menu. Each offline monitor could contain pieces of zone-specific blueprints that reveal Eggman's plans in the story. Starposts, when all activated, could act as teleporters between zones. Collecting all golden Flickies in a zone would revive the "Flicky Army of Death" protection mechanic Super Tails had in Sonic 3&K.
It's weird to also think that the red ring concept started as far back as Sonic Advance 2.
For better or worse
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I bought this on PSN but I'm considering buying it again on Switch.
Secret Owl
Neo Member
Best Sonic trailer ever.
The only strange thing is skipping "CD" on the elevater. It looks like this game directly aknowlages CD and draws from it in a few ways, unlike Sonic 4.
Anyone know if this animated piece will be in the game itself?
The only strange thing is skipping "CD" on the elevater. It looks like this game directly aknowlages CD and draws from it in a few ways, unlike Sonic 4.
Anyone know if this animated piece will be in the game itself?
CampbellzSoup
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This title is almost a month and change away now I'm beyond excited they actually tried this out.
I'm hoping this does amazing so we can get the whitehead ports of sonic 2 and sonic cd and possibly 3&K.
For a sequel they'd have to go totally new as I'm getting tired of revisiting old stages / themes now.
I'm hoping this does amazing so we can get the whitehead ports of sonic 2 and sonic cd and possibly 3&K.
For a sequel they'd have to go totally new as I'm getting tired of revisiting old stages / themes now.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I'd hoped we'd be getting that inevitable announcement of a physical Switch release 
Phoenix RISING
Banned
Hmmm...I was more focused on Sonic Forces, but I might have to check this out too.
AlexFlame116
Member
I wonder why they aren't doing a physical release.
RecRoulette
Member
The special stages look NUTS.
IrishNinja
Member
awesome news! another potential GOTY contender right here
to force us all to double dip, duh
NoctisVsStar
Member
Yup saw it on twitter.
OfTheOverflow
Member
If only there was a link
NintendosBooger
Member
Sega's resurgence begins with this game. I'm calling it.
allenpergallon
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TheCongressman1
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With the Saturn inspired visuals, I figured they would go for a low poly 3D special stage.
Sonic 1
Sonic 1
Those fishes in the background of the special stage make me think of something beta'ish. Am I crazy or are those from another game?
Either way, I like what I see and I'm sooooooo happy they didn't just go the Blue Sphere route (I think I'm the only person in the world that hated those special stages)
Edit: Nevermind, finally figured out it from Sonic 1.
Either way, I like what I see and I'm sooooooo happy they didn't just go the Blue Sphere route (I think I'm the only person in the world that hated those special stages)
Edit: Nevermind, finally figured out it from Sonic 1.
Dead End Irony
Member
Oh no you aren't the only one. Blue Sphere stages were trash! I will never understand the love for those stages...
OrbitalBeard
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Nah, you're not the only one. They sucked.
Self_Destructive
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Should be only $20 USD or $25 CAD
GabeTheGrouch76
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The Xtortionist
Member
Blue Sphere is alright...I like it better than Sonic 1 and 2's special stages, but I'm glad Mania's will be following on from CD's. Always had the most fun with those.
Triforce141
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It's crazy that there's still no physical release of this game yet
Dr. Black Jack
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AlexFlame116
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Argh now I'm wondering if I should keep my Special Edition preorder or just go with the digital copy. All that swag is cool but if all I get is the code then I might start feeling like I could have just bought the game by itself.
NoKisum
Member
Same here. Part of me was thinking that they'd get enough persuasion and slip a physical version into the box for the demand, but I guess the demand wasn't high enough.
Wow, sega really doesn't believe in this then...
Gotdatmoney
Member
$40 would be ballsy. Hoe many downloadable only games release at that price point
... Is this a serious post?
This is almost as ridiculous as the "this game is on sale for $15 on steam but its still $20 on other platforms? No sale." post from a while back
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