It's really fun how this thread kind of meanders from topic to topic. I enjoy returning to it every day and seeing what you guys are talking about now.
Which will be all retread when quarterly reports come out.
It's really fun how this thread kind of meanders from topic to topic. I enjoy returning to it every day and seeing what you guys are talking about now.
It's really fun how this thread kind of meanders from topic to topic. I enjoy returning to it every day and seeing what you guys are talking about now.
LOL
Back on topic. I say mid feb before ps4 is 20 mil sold to consumers world wide.
In terms of audience, absolutely. In terms of software? I don't know by how much. I still suspect the vast majority (95%) of Japanese games is still going to show up on Xbone, unless we're talking about games that wouldn't have made it to the west anyway. Except maybe like Tales.
But you're forgetting that PS4 will likely launch in China before February. So even if they sell the PS4 to 1% of the population thats around 13 million extra sales right there.
So we should see over 30m sold through by Feb. Not 20m
I have to completely disagree here. It's not going to make much of a difference short term other than 'perhaps' a 1m boost (at best).
But you're forgetting that PS4 will likely launch in China before February. So even if they sell the PS4 to 1% of the population thats around 13 million extra sales right there.
It was a joke post bro.I have to completely disagree here. It's not going to make much of a difference short term other than 'perhaps' a 1m boost (at best).
Jokes aside. mid-Feb seems like a decent timing.
Chinese speaking regions like HK/Taiwan/SEA should get a CNY Red Packets bump. And unless Sony is terrible at their job, they'll need to sort out their China issue by then, to take advantage of the thicker wallets in February.
I have to completely disagree here. It's not going to make much of a difference short term other than 'perhaps' a 1m boost (at best).
But you're forgetting that PS4 will likely launch in China before February. So even if they sell the PS4 to 1% of the population thats around 13 million extra sales right there.
So we should see over 30m sold through by Feb. Not 20m
Just wait until they get their 40% market share in Germany and other countries in Europe.Isn't this 1% already taken by the XBO and its China release?
Just wait until they get their 40% market share in Germany and other countries in Europe.
Not necessarily 1 billion Xbones. Maybe Mehdi was just optimistic about the PS4.I'm waiting for 1 billion Xbone sales.
Just wait until they get their 40% market share in Germany and other countries in Europe.
While we're at it, insignificant China news:
Certain retailers shipped out the PS4 they have on hand anyway.
While we're at it, insignificant China news:
Certain retailers shipped out the PS4 they have on hand anyway.
Well, Sony can't officially comment on them, yet.
The Artisan probably doesn't know. Which is why he joined NeoGAF, to have everything explained to him. And I mean EVERYTHING. Because he also doesn't know search engines exist. Don't hold it against him.
To be fair, a lot of people do this. Maybe it because we gain some social sastisfaction by asking and explained directly rather than searching and reading the cold results from search engine.
Consumers in China, by law, can claim for 2x of their preorder deposit if the product can't be delivered. Most of the major retailers were screwed by this during the brief x1 delay.
I would assume some retailers are shipping the stuff out so they can avoid that penalty.
(Sony has been fully refunding 2x deposits in their own stores, and has offered to do the same for any affected retailers. Earning them some goodwill against MS)
like you want to believe when Natella said they hit 10M before NPD was released.
Are you serious? Unless you are a fanboy what is hard to get over that announcement? How does it affect your enjoyment when it is coming to your platform?
Under no circumstance am I watching this video. Their points are beyond stupid from just reading your summary.
can you explain this for me?
i don't understand
While your neurochemistry is off, you are not that far from the truthh. People aren't actually that complicated. It does get harder to manipulate things to sell shit tho the older.people are.Because he's human and he likes to be special. Because that's rewarding and feels good. And that creates increased bursts of dopamine which have a possitive feedback. And eventually you become a fanboy as soon as oxytocine kicks in. And that further increments the positive feedback. Add the male gender into the table and have testosterone bursts also involved further amplifying the effect, plus creating an increased competitivenes and agressivity.
Because like it or not, that sequence of factors is BASICALLY everything the global economy is based around. That's the reason people buy 100K watches and $800 iPhones when they obviously are not even close to need them. That's why people buy 3 titan black cards if they can afford them. That's why social clubs exists, and the closed, the cooler they are. Red carpets. Nespresso. Management workshops. Bose. Sport subscriptions. Political choice.
Get Tekken 7 announced exclusively for PS4 and all of a sudden you're making a lot of people feel special when they're not used to. Dopamine burst. Positive feedback. Oxytocine. Bam. You're a fanboy.
Not necessarily 1 billion Xbones. Maybe Mehdi was just optimistic about the PS4.
Wow, why do we NOT have this as a consumer protection law in the US?
There's some classic moments in there.
At one point the guy with the Xbox Mafia avatar made some calculations trying to show how Sony lied and he says "in the US, PS4 sold 850K Nov, and (est.) 900K Dec, and we'll add 350K global sales for each of those months"
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And you're like oh right they don't have a clue how big the market is outside US. But then the main dude says "MS probably shipped 3-4 million end of Nov." and you realise oh they've lost the plot?!
To be fair, a lot of people do this. Maybe it because we gain some social sastisfaction by asking and explained directly rather than searching and reading the cold results from search engine.
LMAO must be an American thing!
I don't understand why people want games to be exclusive you still get the game when it's multiplatform, it's it feels like I'm in the official playstation forums right now. SF5 is a bit different though since it seems capcom did not want to invest in it anytime soon until Sony stepped in.
Dobut it. According to this report I have the big 5 accounted for 90% of EU software market in 2006/2007 (Nilsen/GFK data)
http://www.kocca.kr/knowledge/research/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2010/05/02/73472.pdf
EU market outside the big 5 is not that big. For example PS4 was @ only 45k as of end of August, 2014. Markets like Poland and and Ukrain are even smaller console markets apparently.
Asia/Middle East more important than people think, people just assumes they are irrelevant coz we never ever get numbres from there. For example you posted earlier that an estimated 2m consoles are sold in Chinese black market every year, not even in Japan consoles sell that much anymore.
I recall there being a PAL report that... came/or was it leaked out, which implies the 90% thing is true... only for XB1. (5 countries make up practically all XB1 sales in Europe)
But not true for PS4.
UK, Germany, Spain, Italy and....?
UK, Germany, Spain, Italy and....?
From our honorable siblings in the UK, it might also be a UK thing. There were about 3 people chiming in from the UK, one of whom was from Grimsby or something. Only reason why that chatter stood out to me was because they were talking about how living in their areas was like being in a prison or something.
I think the UK equivalent of a dudebro is a chav.
I think the UK equivalent of a dudebro is a chav.
In November, I think Microsoft started to finally moved some of that inventory that has been stacking up over the year. I could be wrong but the demand for Xbox One is not there like welfare thinks it is.
Mid February sounds right. And hopefully, The Order 1886 is a commercial success and manages to move more unitsLOL
Back on topic. I say mid feb before ps4 is 20 mil sold to consumers world wide.
In Finland dudebro is called a "jonne".
In Belgium a 'Johny' (so close!) while the female version is called a 'Marina'.In Finland dudebro is called a "jonne".
Personally, I think he is being too optimistic about the demand for the XBox One as well but I could be wrong too
can you explain this for me?
i don't understand
Also this.As long as search engines don't add animated gifs to their results they are no match for NeoGAF.
Yes, exactly.It wasn't strictly all about the money. It was about the money, plus all about Sony's open policy toward funding and codeveloping, plus their already close relationships due to the history of the companies working together. Plus Sony's willingness to allow cross platform play.
Anyone can throw money at something, it doesn't take skill, MS seems to have forgotten that
So, first you claim the deal was due entirely to Sony's deep pockets, and now you say MS didn't even need Ono's game. Well, okay.You assume that Microsoft values a fighting game equally as much as Sony does when trying to bring it exclusively to their platform. Given that they have a first-party fighting game doesn't seem likely.
Actually, he said that he approached Sony about exclusivity.Capcom doesn't have to be the originator and shop around, they could have just been the party that the deal was offered to by Sony.
Isn't that what Ono said on stage anyway?
A place like GAF allows one to engage their instructors directly. If the lessons raise questions, they can (typically) get answers. Plus, some people just learn more effectively through tutoring than textbooks or whatever.can you explain this for me?
i don't understand