KinofChaos
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This was not the reveal.... and NX?
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Sony confirms PS4 Neo, [Cites smartphone cycle, waiting until enough games post E3]
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This was not the reveal.... and NX?
Crimson_Gold
Member
Depends on how much effort the dev puts into the game's neo version
good ol' Kuchera
Obscuritas
Member
Cause denying now would be pretty lame, given all the voices and hints. This soft-reveal, which will be followed by an official reveal in the next months (Gamescom, TGS, PGS), it's nothing strange. I mean, it's just a premium PS4.
MaulerX
Member
Why even say it exists though? They could have said at the E3 they're working on something and will have more to show at a later date.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Things have changed if you have been keeping up due to other conferences take precedent, and even their own events now.
Not a single console or hardware has been revealed at E3 since the Wii U I believe.
You are complaining because they are being more transparent than they need to be?
Well I'll be.
KinofChaos
Banned
Come on it's been leaked and pretty much confirmed already...they had no choice really.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Did you even read the article ?
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
Things have changed if you have been keeping up due to other conferences take precedent, and even their own events now.
Not a single console or hardware has been revealed at E3 since the Wii U I believe.
Makes sense. Why announce hardware when you're competing with the entire industry for attention?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Nobody knows. It will probably vary from game to game.
Obscuritas
Member
It's not excluded by any means.
Bitch Pudding
Member
MS is going to do exactly the same. Focus E3 on XBOX slim and tell people a little bit about their roadmap of upcoming hardware in the next couple of years. And that's fine.
DragonKnight
Member
Still not convinced a stand alone nintendo event wont accomplish the same thing. Hell...isnt that how Sony unveiled the ps4 to the world?
Crimson_Gold
Member
Sadly I don't think the world really cares about NX. The mainstream seems to have forgotten about Nintendo. Nintendo would have had the opportunity to show Zelda off on the NC and really get the ball rolling while news outlets were all over it. The event will get coverage, but there's no telling how it'll all play out.
Let me preface this by saying I haven't regularly browsed gaming side in years, so I'm not up to date in specifics of all the rumors or anything.
The comparison to the phone market as an excuse for consoles to have biennial upgrades from now on is stupid. I use my phone to text, make calls, and browse the internet, not to play games. So the power of the phone means almost nothing to me. The whole fucking point of getting a console instead of PC gaming is not having to worry about the constant upgrades. You get one piece of hardware that will give you a standard, universal level of performance for 5-7 years.
I just can't believe that future PS4/PSPoor games won't suffer severe performance issues relative to the Neo that wouldn't have been there otherwise. But if that's not the case and the only difference in performance and graphics aren't that significant or noticeable, then what the fuck is the point of making a new console that's 2-4 times as powerful, and not utilizing all that extra power?
This gen has also been pretty disappointing on the games front. It seems like half of the big releases every year have been remakes and remasters. I just got a PS4 last year because I figured there were finally enough original games to make it worth it, and uncharted 4 was coming out soon. I've also been hoping that we would start getting a lot more quality games that aren't just remakes over the next few years with developers finally getting used to the hardware. But now, even if that does happen, I'll be stuck playing the low settings versions. I also could not give less of a shit about VR, and I'm kinda worried about how many developer resources that will suck up.
I'm honestly hoping for the Neo/Scorpio to fail terribly at this point so that the market abandons this strategy. Otherwise I seriously think I'm done with consoles. I had already considered saving for a gaming PC instead of a PS4 last year, but I've always preferred console gaming. Oh well.
The comparison to the phone market as an excuse for consoles to have biennial upgrades from now on is stupid. I use my phone to text, make calls, and browse the internet, not to play games. So the power of the phone means almost nothing to me. The whole fucking point of getting a console instead of PC gaming is not having to worry about the constant upgrades. You get one piece of hardware that will give you a standard, universal level of performance for 5-7 years.
I just can't believe that future PS4/PSPoor games won't suffer severe performance issues relative to the Neo that wouldn't have been there otherwise. But if that's not the case and the only difference in performance and graphics aren't that significant or noticeable, then what the fuck is the point of making a new console that's 2-4 times as powerful, and not utilizing all that extra power?
This gen has also been pretty disappointing on the games front. It seems like half of the big releases every year have been remakes and remasters. I just got a PS4 last year because I figured there were finally enough original games to make it worth it, and uncharted 4 was coming out soon. I've also been hoping that we would start getting a lot more quality games that aren't just remakes over the next few years with developers finally getting used to the hardware. But now, even if that does happen, I'll be stuck playing the low settings versions. I also could not give less of a shit about VR, and I'm kinda worried about how many developer resources that will suck up.
I'm honestly hoping for the Neo/Scorpio to fail terribly at this point so that the market abandons this strategy. Otherwise I seriously think I'm done with consoles. I had already considered saving for a gaming PC instead of a PS4 last year, but I've always preferred console gaming. Oh well.
Dangansona
Member
I'd bet you a pretty penny they do when the next console that comes out is a PS5.
potatohead
Member
No one uses the phone market as an example for PS4 Neo as a platform, at least I hope not.
PS4s are not sold with contracts. Completely different ballgame. And this is not "biannual."
Biannual means twice a year upgrading.
Like really, come on now. Wish people would really look up the words they use sometimes.
PS4s are not sold with contracts. Completely different ballgame. And this is not "biannual."
Biannual means twice a year upgrading.
Like really, come on now. Wish people would really look up the words they use sometimes.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
Dat first post. I agree.
Playing the Witcher 3 on PS4 is awesome now after the patching. It's a solid system and think the Neo is just being brought out mainly for VR and 4K. I don't care for VR because gaming in my household is usually a social event where family and friends usually watch and play together. My 1080p LG tv alongside my PS4, Xbox One and Wii U is good enough. 4K resolution is a luxury imho, not the standard. I'll adopt when I feel it's worth it and more widespread.
I also have The Witcher 3 on my pc with a Nvidia 970. While I can crank the settings, I think the PS4 does a phenomenal job of pushing through some great graphics and honestly don't feel/see a huge difference in graphics going one from another.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
This excites me GREATLY! More time to show games @ E3!
Astral Dog
Member
that would be 4 years tho
Arkam
Member
Pretty sure that is Sony's wish. Let the world know it IS real( but give very few details) and force MS to react and then adjust any details (if needed).
There are a couple major events between E3 and Holiday 2016. If Sony unveiled all MS at E3 MS would have an easy time crafting a response and present it at either TGS or GamesCom.
So IF i were MS I would not say much about "Scorpio" or any such except "We have an upgrade coming too... and it is way better" <- Even if it is not entirely true.
Of course if they both launch in 2017 this all becomes moot.
Biennial then, my bad. No need to dismiss me based on semantics.
And yes, I've seen people in this thread comparing this market model to smartphones.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Great decision. Sony knows best.
Wait for MS to show their hand and then pounce!
Wait for MS to show their hand and then pounce!
The ps4 was confirmed to be in development wayyyyyy before the 13' meeting in February. Confirming that the thing exists is very different from talking about at E3
Sure, as long as you don't care about alienating a lot of low income consumers.
Here you go: "Sadly, horor game P.T. that is currently installed and playable on consoles of many of gamers around the world will not be possible to run on PS4K due to delisting of this title from PSN by its publisher
#Fuc
/deep Japanese bow
This E3 will be good if they can deliver on 1st party projects [with not only sequels, but new IPs that MS is so very unwilling to invest into]. Traditionally, Sony was always willing to risk it with their 1st/2nd party projects. They greenlight games from all genres, with crazy ideas and gameplay styles, and more often than not they don't find success. But they make their game library very wide, covering many possible gaming interests. With Sony I know that I will get tons of different gaming genres on E3, even more insanity on Gamescom/PGW, lots of Japanese focus on TGS and then final blast of gaming content on PSX. They are cranking up the game library like mad, and E3 represents the "starting of a marketing season" for each year. Hopefully this year will be great one, with Neo or not.
Why did Nintendo confirmed existence of NX so early? Because if they did not, media would rip them appart after that mobile game news announcement. We have few days to think about this, news waves will pass, and then we can enjoy awesome games on E3 [that will not get generational leap on Neo].
No, that was NX. House at least confirmed many things about Neo, Nintendo said the codename and nothing else.
geordiemp
Member
But my Ps4 is coming up to 3 years old, so explain to me your calculations for Biennial then, looking forward to it.
House should of done a Nintendo type reveal, its called Neo and thats it. It does not replace a Ps4 or Vita, its a new way to play ....please wait a year or 2 lol
Steve Youngblood
Member
I'm all for promoting this narrative in a completely non-serious fashion if it means more silly Scorpio gifs and less fan anxiety and system wars crap.
XxRampage07xX
Member
Good for Sony. They just dodged a bullet.
DragonKnight
Member
Thats fine. But the ps4 will still play the same games but they will look worse, etc.
Freeman
Banned
What are you talking about? These consoles will play the same games, they aren't alienating anyone.
The console you bought 3 years ago wouldn't be any better if they didn't release an improved version.
If anything a half step like this prolongs the length of the current generation.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Yup. Just like they've always done.
http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/01/21/ps4-sony-will-let-microsoft-make-first-move
Gen started in 2012.
The Artisan
Member
me neither. this is depressing (for me).
DragonKnight
Member
From the inception of gaming we have seen ninty on top, to sony dominance, the rise of microsoft after sonys blunders to microsoft fucking up the xbone. Im not saying that the NX will set the world on fire but given the above,I will reserve judgement until all the cards are on the table.
geordiemp
Member
November 2013, coming up for 3 years.
Always amuses me how some like to call 3 years 2 or 4 depending on their agenda...Call it what it is, 3 years.
pixellated_man
Member
This is what I've been saying since we got wind of psk / neo. Unlike Microsoft, I don't think Sony have endless iterative console future in mind. More like what you say - possible mid gen refreshes if the technology spikes are there to take advantage of.
Which generation would you say the NX is part of?
CyberMiguel
Banned
They'll probably go with a line like "oh...and about those 'Scorpio' rumours that've been going around? We're working on it. Thank you everyone and enjoy the rest of the E3! Bye!".
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