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[Chamber]

Scorpio is nothing more than a whisper in the wind right now. That thing won't be at E3 either beyond a passing mention like this one from House.

 

[blastprocessor]

Well l thought it was releasing this year so am dissapointed with no UHD BluRay player from Sony.

 

[BrettHeazy]

This throws a lot of predictions in the air... interesting

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

So much for showing God of War on the new hardware then.

Sony still has many opportunities to reveal it this year and have it out in time for VR.

 

[Obscuritas]

We have passed from "PS4 has no gamez" to "PS4 has no revisionz".

 

[Audioboxer]

Why does everyone keep saying they'll announce at Gamecom? It seems like it would make way more sense to announce at PSX. Hit the core audience that would even consider buying this in the first place, place it after PSVR to not kill sales of the headset, then announce a PS4K/Horizon bundle or something similar.

Putting the PSVR and Neo out at the same time seemed so weird to me and like a bad move even from someone who was considering buying both. With all the money they've invested in PSVR I think there's no way we see Neo coming out this year only so that they can focus all their marketing minds/dollars on pushing VR units while the base PS4 continues to dominate. Then throw the Neo in early next year once VR sales start to even out and discount the base PS4 to move more units of both.

People are going on the rumoured release date of Sept/Oct. PSX is in December.

Well l thought it was releasing this year so am dissapointed with no UHD BluRay player from Sony.

Jeff Rigby has you covered with PS4 firmware updates.

 

[Maintenance]

Well, shit.

 

[GHG]

Probably so they can make sure the sentiment that "we're not abandoning the regular PS4" sentiment can get out there, since everyone already knows the Neo is coming. While that may be true, we all know anyone that's going to buy a PS4 for the last month or so has been waiting to see what happens with the Neo. Nobody wants to get burned.

The key bit of information is the fact that it will cost more than $350.

Therefore, if you don't want to spend more than that on a new console then you can just get the ps4 in comfort knowing that all games will still come out on it moving forwards. Everyone else who is looking to spend more can wait (but these people will likely already have a ps4 anyway).

 

[Nirolak]

I'm guessing not enough games are ready to show off the advantages yet.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Was hoping this silly upgrade didn't exist, but this is also good news.

Not that I am against upgrades, but this all sounded too minor. Just sit out another 2 years and unveil the PS5.

 

[DrROBschiz]

I wanted to see what it looked like

The new form factor and weight etc...

I for one love my consoles to get progressively smaller, cooler, quieter and more efficient

The power bump of the Neo is also a plus

Now they are back pedaling? That bums me out

 

[platocplx]

this would make a lot of sense to launch the 4K 'neo' model in 2017.

They would be crazy to launch both a modified console and VR at the same time totally would cannibalize sales.

I honestly see them launching this Fall 2017, maybe as early as Q1 2017. But its definitely not coming this year.

also I think 2017 would fall into what i think the new console cycle will be,4 year mid upgrade cycle. 8 year full revamp.

 

[Donthizz#]

They will reveal it few weeks ahead if it's release date.

 

[bitbydeath]

Good luck rendering games at that resolution. With 60 frames per second. For 400 bucks.

Devs don't care about 60fps.
You'll get your 4K, 30fps and you'll love it.

 

[LiK]

I'm guessing not enough games are ready to show off the advantages yet.

Developers are begrudgingly working on those enhancements.

 

[Vuze]

Interesting. So basically Premium PS4 for 399$ or 449$ in 2017? Don't think they'll release it this year if it's not present at E3.

Guess I'll be keeping my old one for a little longer than anticipated.

 

[darkwing]

makes sense, they have to counter Scorpio/NX

 

[d9b]

No E3? Not released this year?

I'm dissapoint.

 

[mejin]

I'm glad Andrew already talky about it.

Scorpio also shouldn't be at E3 unless MS wants to kill Xbone right now.

Well, it's not like it's alive either.

 

[Raylan]

So it wont be at E3, but you can bet any games we see their will be showing the NEO version (or PC version). The regular PS4 owner can just expect an automatic downgrade from here on out of everything they see.

This makes no sense at all.

Makes sense. So next gen starts 2017 with new consoles from Nintendo, Sony and MS.

PS4 Neo is in the same 'generation' as the PS4.

 

[DrROBschiz]

makes sense, they have to counter Scorpio/NX

2017 is going to be insane

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Always said they'll safe that announcement for TGS in September. E3 is all about games and PSVR.

Effectively, Andrew House just announced Neo albeit low key in the FT. The news will spread very quickly, though. So even Sony don't think it will affect sales of PS4.

 

[Z3M0G]

It's probably best to not show it at E3 and make too much of a big deal about it... It's not the launch of a new gen, so they need to keep it lower-key then what they would normally do for a new gen launch.

Sony still has many opportunities to reveal it this year and have it out in time for VR.

It shouldn't be "out in time for VR" because that would make people think you need it for VR... which you don't. Neo and PSVR are not heavily died to each other.

They will reveal it few weeks ahead if it's release date.

Exactly. It should have an announcement equivalent to a Slim model.

 

[Elandyll]

As expected (at least for me).

They will probably officially unveil either at GC, TGS or PGW for a Nov release, before that it's all about PS4/ PSVR.

Still expecting a $50 price drop at E3 for PS4 (particularly if there is.a base model refresh-nothing significant), although they might keep that in reserve for the Neo unveil (expected $399).

I also do not expect to see or hear about Scorpio at E3, that may be jumping the gun, but rather about a Slim refresh for the XB1.
Otoh if they want to prepare people for their big 2017 move (imo Xbox brand moving to Win10 HTPC line, Scorpio being the first), they might talk about what's coming knowing full well that in that case, baring a small bump for the Slim month release, it's going to be a wash for XB1.

 

[prwxv3]

Effectively, Andrew House just announced Neo albeit low key in the FT. The news will spread very quickly, though. So even Sony don't think it will affect sales of PS4.

It won'. the mass market will not care until a official reveal.

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

That's disappointing, the Neo is one of the things I was most curious about from Sony's conference. I guess wait for Gamescom?

What are the odds they've pushed it back to better compete with Scorpio?

 

[TeddyShardik]

Wait, how would the neo complement my original ps4? Wouldn't it be a replacement if anything?

Did I read that wrong?

 

[geordiemp]

Is there even a 4K TV that doesn't have atrocious delay?

My Panasonic Ax802 is 30 ms which is pretty good for 4K

Not as good as a Monitor or the 20 ms very fast Sony Tv's, but its better than most.

 

[sono]

I am fine with the "not ready to announce at E3" aspect of this

Nevertheless I still have concerns that it still may be too soon after PS4 was brought to market when it is ready.

A device that offers higher resolution and more powerful graphical features is not in keeping with prior Sony Playstation lifecycles and I need to understand this better for what it means for my PS4 hardware investment.

 

[Ricker]

You believe 4k will become the norm next year?

Late 2017 is like a year and a half away...you already have 4K HDTV lowering in price,even the good ones are getting close to 1500,2000 bucks now,tech like this works fast...as for 4K gaming at 60 FPS...probably not though but its easier to sell a 4K TV if theres actually stuff at 4K,like Sports thats already starting to be broadcast at 4K...

 

[KinofChaos]

Wait, how would the neo complement my original ps4? Wouldn't it be a replacement if anything?

Did I read that wrong?

No it's not a replacement, it's a high end option both will play the same games.....

 

[DrROBschiz]

That's disappointing, the Neo is one of the things I was most curious about from Sony's conference. I guess wait for Gamescom?

Me too

but enough people made a stink i guess

 

[mrklaw]

Good luck rendering games at that resolution. With 60 frames per second. For 400 bucks.

they already don't do that for plenty of 1080p games. A reasonably updated PS4 with specs as previously rumoured could probably manage 4k/30 fine. Or 1080p/60/AA for those of us peasants that still have 1080p TVs

 

[Audioboxer]

I'm guessing not enough games are ready to show off the advantages yet.

All they'd really need to show is UC4 and GoW4 running on it. I mean 1st parties have this covered, surely.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Scorpio also shouldn't be at E3 unless MS wants to kill Xbone right now.

 

[GregLombardi]

I wonder to what extent Sony / Microsoft are reacting to Nintendos NX plans now, it seems they might be.

 

[ekim]

Well l thought it was releasing this year so am dissapointed with no UHD BluRay player from Sony.

Luckily, other companies are releasing UHD BD players this year.

 

[names2hard4you]

Just because they won't be showing the PS4K, to those of you freaking out, that doesn't mean that they won't show footage of a game running on it with the promise to show more at a future event.

I'm shocked by how much people have turned around to the idea of a new PS4 coming. Everyone was freaking out about it and throwing stones at Sony what seems like a minute ago.

 

[Kouichi]

Ah, so no E3. Eh I wasn't really excited for it, so I don't care that it missed it. Now I wonder if they will pick a different event to reveal it or prepare their own event for it.

 

[Rösti]

I find this revelation a bit disappointing. Though it shouldn't heavily impact the amount of software to be shown during Sony's E3 2016 press conference.

 

[Flavius]

We're definitely getting new hardware at E3, though, right? Too much chatter to think otherwise. So does that mean it's the Xbox One Slim?

 

[Boogdud]

Devs don't care about 60fps.
You'll get your 4K, 30fps and you'll love it.

You realize to get 30fps for VR, the games will need to at least be rendering 60fps?

 

[Red Liquorice]

All I take from this is that I've no intention of getting a PS5 because I can just wait a while for the PS5.5.

 

[Lanrutcon]

Devs don't care about 60fps.
You'll get your 4K, 30fps and you'll love it.

Even 4k at 30fps takes a chunk of horsepower. The Neo is an upgrade, not the second coming

 

[KinofChaos]

I wonder to what extent Sony / Microsoft are reacting to Nintendos NX plans now, it seems they might be.

LMAO....MS and Sony are not reacting to anything nintendo is doing come on. NX is not a threat these were planned years in advance.

 

[Caronte]

I feel like there's zero need for one. Ps4 never seemed built at all.

How much more slim can it feasibly get?

Can't wait for that slim XB1 though, that system should be PS4 sized.

I mean it in the sense of a quieter PS4, like the PS3 and 360 slim versions.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Just because they won't be showing the PS4K, to those of you freaking out, that doesn't mean that they won't show footage of a game running on it with the promise to show more at a future event.

I'm shocked by how much people have turned around to the idea of a new PS4 coming. Everyone was freaking out about it and throwing stones at Sony what seems like a minute ago.

I wasnt but clearly enough people did

damn shame

 

[Ricky_R]

Glad that they got this out of the way already and that they're not going to show it at E3.

 

[spons]

I'm guessing not enough games are ready to show off the advantages yet.

Just throw some remasters and other nonsense into the crowd during the presser and you're good. Or just hit the magical recompile button and with the flick of a switch we get 4k output. It's almost like these are walled garden PCs or something.

Guess we'll see nothing of that.

 

[wapplew]

Just because they won't be showing the PS4K, to those of you freaking out, that doesn't mean that they won't show footage of a game running on it with the promise to show more at a future event.

I'm shocked by how much people have turned around to the idea of a new PS4 coming. Everyone was freaking out about it and throwing stones at Sony what seems like a minute ago.

I'm still throwing stone at it.