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Sony leaks Dark Cloud PS2 for PS4
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BreezyLimbo
Banned
MS has to get permission because their BC solution involves downloading a recompiled version of the game from their servers, though.
Don't then?
Dun Dun DUNNNNNN
Spieler Eins
Member
Well, no hurry for me to get a new PS4 soon then. Already sold mine because I was playing much more older PS gen games before and after Bloodborne.
OfficerZap
Neo Member
Because
All that says it's that you can't play from the disc. That's all.
"PS2 classics" probably means the ps2 classics you can buy from the PS Store.
Portugeezer
Member
PS2 classics seems reasonable, no? I mean, Sony even ported Flower (among other games) to PS4 and it was a free upgrade for PS3 owners.
Should be easy to see if someone owns PS2 classic and make PS4 emulated version available for free.
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
Pretty sure ps2 classics were a simple hack of original ps2 games. I remember reading somewhere that it was fairly easy to patch a ps2 iso for a modded ps3 anyway. Wide-screen fov hack was easy too, so we better get wide-screen on these Sony.
Makes sense.
It says PS2 classics right there. I'll admit it's disappointing. But I'll wait for the full reveal and confirmation.
It means that already released PS2 classics will not retroactively work on the PS4. It's not a confirmation that you won't get the upgraded version if you already own it.
Portugeezer
Member
Honestly, it could just mean PS3 classics won't work on PS4 until they make an emulated version for PS4. Doesn't mean you will have to re-buy... yet.
There is some hope for that, I suppose.
Lol, Sony going full Birdman Sandusky on their customers!
To be honest, I can't fault Sony for this. Its the most logical move to make, so people need to stop hating.
SwordStruck
Member
Why should we not have? The entire thing seems strange to me. A digital version of a PS2 version bought on the PS3 doesn't work as a PS2 version of the same game on the PS4 (Assuming they don't give you the 'PS4' version if you bought the 'PS3' version).
minameissteve
Banned
There's still a chance that current PS2 classics that get re-rereleased will be cross-buy, right? I mean, it says they aren't compatible, but that could just mean that you need to download a totally different version that doesn't work with your old save...right?
Who am I kidding?
univariate
Banned
I'd rather have Dark Cloud 2.
What?
Yeah sure. It's all just speculation right now until Sony says whats up.
Stone Ocean
Member
Coordinating with multiple devs to give out new versions of their games for free must be a pain. Unless all you want is upgrades of Sony PS2 classics.
Doesn't make it harder to say it's fucking bullshit.
Sony, this is fucking bullshit. I hope the emulation in question is just for the trophies and already bought classics work else
Please go fuck yourself with a grenade.
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I really should just update my htpc and run it all through an emulator if this holds true.
Stone Ocean
Member
Different console architecture, likely different emulator. That's like expecting your PS3 digital games to work as well.
Admiral Woofington
Member
So should I play these if I never did?
Emulated Hype
Member
The thing is, if I have to re-buy Classics that I already own on PS3 then I'm going to be less inclined to buy Classics on PS4 period.
This is what we need to know critically.
I don't see why the license would not be able to be carried over for those of us who have a huge digital library of PS1 and PS2 games on PSTV/Vita and PS3, unless they distinctly consider PS4 "PS2 and PS2 classics" completely separate from their last gen equivalents, which makes no sense just from an ecosystem stand point. They don't have to be compatible to have the licenses carry over for previous buyers.
ClayKavalier
Banned
Maybe there will be a discount Wii U VC style?
It's great to see the older games get trophies. But instantly, that introduces more work for the developers. It's not just "Flipping a switch", they're probably enabling stat tracking and markers that the games were never intended for.
With this, I can see why it needs to cost SOMETHING, and not just be a free feature tacked on to owning a game disk from a decade ago. People put in work to get this stuff happening, and of course they deserve to get paid.
However, not matching downloaded PS2 classics? I HATE this about the PS4. The PSP, Vita, and PS3 all stand as some kind of testament that the other systems lived in their stores, and through their BC. It's a WONDERFUL thing, and I love being able to Download PSV or PSP stuff to the PS3 in order to buy, store, or manage it. It's great. Also seeing the purchase history on Vita, and being able to access a majority of the PSP store games.
But the PS4 is so insular. I can't even check out the sales for other Sonly consoles, or check the PS+ games for use. It\s absolutely a step back after enjoying these features across 3 previous consoles.
PS3 and 4 both have odd features that push me away from totally loving the systems. It's aggravating, but generally manageable. But seeing the people who basically pioneered console cross buy and persistent libraries fail to keep their digital purchases moving forward, to what is their most successful hardware in years... it really just feels bad.
With this, I can see why it needs to cost SOMETHING, and not just be a free feature tacked on to owning a game disk from a decade ago. People put in work to get this stuff happening, and of course they deserve to get paid.
However, not matching downloaded PS2 classics? I HATE this about the PS4. The PSP, Vita, and PS3 all stand as some kind of testament that the other systems lived in their stores, and through their BC. It's a WONDERFUL thing, and I love being able to Download PSV or PSP stuff to the PS3 in order to buy, store, or manage it. It's great. Also seeing the purchase history on Vita, and being able to access a majority of the PSP store games.
But the PS4 is so insular. I can't even check out the sales for other Sonly consoles, or check the PS+ games for use. It\s absolutely a step back after enjoying these features across 3 previous consoles.
PS3 and 4 both have odd features that push me away from totally loving the systems. It's aggravating, but generally manageable. But seeing the people who basically pioneered console cross buy and persistent libraries fail to keep their digital purchases moving forward, to what is their most successful hardware in years... it really just feels bad.
SwordStruck
Member
No. I'm expecting their 'Digital PS2 game' to be compatible with any console they advertise as being able to play digital PS2 games. The underlying architecture should not make any difference at all to the customer.
Wowzers...Take a breather, it will all be ok I promise! If you can't play on PS4 just remember that they are still playable on PS3! No need for grenade Fucking.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Does this game still hold up well?
I feel like it's nothing but foolish hope at this point...
... But that would be nice. Nintendo did that (kinda) with Wii Virtual Console games being upgraded to Wii U Virtual Console games (for a price).
... Though you could still bloody well play the Wii Virtual Console games without the new additions too.
Because companies want to maximize profit. Sony thinks they will lose less from pissing people off with this bullshit than they make with reselling us stuff we already own.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I guess I'll wait until PSX before getting upset.
univariate
Banned
I'm sorry, but that's delusional. This is Sony we're talking aboutDark Cloud will cost at least $9.99
silvermember
Banned
Almost like in a few days we will find out during a certain event hosted by Sony. But maybe I am wrong.
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
Except not exactly since there has been a precedent with PS1 games from the PSN with multiple systems, and PSP games to the Vita. It was never an unreasonable assumption that classics already purchased could work on the PS4 as well.
The dream is dead
Welp, so much for that. Guess it makes it easier for me to resist the urge to impulse buy a PS4 right now.
dripdripsplash
Member
One question. Dunno if it has already been answered.
Was there even a possibility of ps2 discs working on the ps4, technically speaking? Like it actually possible in theory or practice and they just chose not to?
Was there even a possibility of ps2 discs working on the ps4, technically speaking? Like it actually possible in theory or practice and they just chose not to?