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[PS5]

399 is that magic price point. Sony wasn't about to go over.

 

[the_batman]

Did you ever consider that they're passing the savings onto you by ignoring movies and television? It's 4 the Players and not 4 the Watchers, you fucking ingrates.

yes, they care about us players! now i have to buy a separate machine to watch UHD movies, just think of the savings!

 

[UpUpDownDown]

Nobody has faith in physical mediums anymore.

Dead.

 

[DrFunk]

Who cares about Blu rays the future is digital

Oh so we all can stream a 100+ GB 4K movie

 

[Toki767]

It's 34$ if you're a huge corporation buying several millions of the things at once.

Like...say...UHD player manufacturers?

 

[SURGEdude]

It probably does actually.

Let's say $150 per console is pure profit, if they miss one sale because of it, they have to sell 10 consoles to make up that difference in pure profit. Which is not a lot.

So they're likely betting much fewer than 1/10 people will care who are interested in buying PS4 Pro. Which is probably the case anyway.

Royalties on discs and players as a result of the health of a medium is a small but hardly insignificant upside. The success of a format that leans heavily on your licensed IP is a huge win.

 

[BumRush]

As much as I wanted UHD blu support in it, 99% of potential buyers probably don't care. I'm not buying the thing, but it won't stop most...and that's why Sony made the (odd) decision.

 

[Pops Maellard]

Good for you but the math has been working out for them real good this generation and it will continue to do so.

Probably not after the One S and Scorpio.

 

[JustenP88]

Did you ever consider that they're passing the savings onto you by ignoring movies and television? It's 4 the Players and not 4 the Watchers, you fucking ingrates.

I wonder how the Xbox One reveal would go over today... Seems like gaf has evolved away from the whole 'it's a gaming console I don't care about the multimedia features' towards 'this thing not having a UHD Blu-ray player makes it literally useless'.

 

[Davide]

LMAO the hyperbole. In the digital future media discs like UHD don't even matter to the bast majority of people.

4K doesn't matter to the majority of people yet either.

How easy is it stream 4K HDR films?

 

[Chris_Rivera]

Well....there it is.

 

[Sota4077]

LMAO the hyperbole. In the digital future media discs like UHD don't even matter to the bast majority of people.

I would love to see some source or evidence to support your claim if you don't mind.

 

[Falchion]

We'll see if enough people care, certainly doesn't seem like a good move at this point though.

 

[Baroquemantic]

Love that 4K TV you bought? Heres a machine that does nothing at that resolution.

Well, aside from the fact that it does.

 

[Gamezone]

Way to go. At some point they have to start using UHD discs because of the size of today's games. What if PS5 uses UHD as physical media, then the Pro won't be able to read them.

 

[Chris R]

I'll be saving the $400 on not buying one, I hope the math works out for Sony

Same here

Even tho they already got my $400 for a PS4 first go around.

 

[LordOfChaos]

415 would be an odd price, and a 15 dollar loss per Pro could be a millions dent.

I have no strong opinions either way on this.

 

[johnnydrama]

Blame the US poor online infrastructure

US? A whole bunch of countries where PS4 is sold don't have internet nearly as good as what is needed to stream 4K content.

 

[outunderthestars]

Tell that to people with connections not fast enough to stream 4K content.

I would love to see the numbers on people with 4K tvs and internet speeds less than 25 megabits per second.

 

[HTupolev]

That number actually makes me less surprised that they didn't go for it. $15 is a lot to argue for in a single component, particularly one that's becoming more and more vestigial even for a product's main function. Unfortunate, but maybe not as surprising as I'd thought.

 

[RPGam3r]

How easy is it stream 4K HDR films?

The real question is how many people in the market give a damn?

 

[UpUpDownDown]

Oh so we all can stream a 100+ GB 4K movie

Lol. You sound like someone in 2006 talking about "Full HD"

 

[bryanee]

Way to go. At some point they have to start using UHD discs because of the size of today's games. What if PS5 uses UHD as physical media, then the Pro won't be able to read them.

Why would the Pro read PS5 games?

 

[Hexa]

what about the future when games are put on UHD discs?

All game discs must work on both PS4 and PS4 Pro. Hence even if the PS4 Pro had a UHD drive, games still wouldn't be allowed to be put on UHD discs. Just movies.

Way to go. At some point they have to start using UHD discs because of the size of today's games. What if PS5 uses UHD as physical media, then the Pro won't be able to read them.

Well, duh? I mean, would you expect PS4 games to work on a PS3?

 

[Killing_Joke]

I wanted a 4k player but the over reaction is hilarious.

 

[Massa]

yes, they care about us players! now i have to buy a separate machine to watch UHD movies, just think of the savings!

They could have released a UHD player with a 1.4TF GPU for $399. Imagine the savings then.

 

[MUnited83]

Like...say...UHD player manufacturers?

There's more than just the drive on the UHD player though.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Tell that to people with connections not fast enough to stream 4K content.

So you gon have a 4k with no internet... lol

 

[DjRalford]

4K doesn't matter to the majority of people yet either.

How easy is it stream 4K HDR films?

I've never once had it buffering on 4k netflix, although i do have a 200MB connection, netflix recommends 25MB connection for streaming 4k.

 

[Davide]

The real question is how many people in the market give a damn?

How many people in the market care about a slightly better PS4?

 

[Toki767]

They could have released a UHD player with a 1.4TF GPU for $399. Imagine the savings then.

Then the Xbox One S would really look a lot better at $50 cheaper for the same configuration.

 

[SURGEdude]

Love that 4K TV you bought? Heres a machine that does nothing at that resolution.

Well there's always the same shitty low bitrate streaming apps you already have built in on pretty much any 4k TV ever made. So there is that.

 

[EvB]

So why are UHD players $300 if a drive amounts to like $34?

Because you need all of the other components to make a whole UHD Drive.
Like expensive processors

Also, uptake on standalone UHD drives is going to be low at this point, so they will be sold at a high margin , with the real cost coming from the design and manufacturer of small volumes.

 

[Raylan]

Probably not after the One S and Scorpio.

lol, yeah right. You're in for a rude awakening. I think it's funny as hell that some people actually think MS gonna win next-gen or "this gen" as soon as Scorpio hits, because Scorpio has a 6TF GPU. In the end, it's still an Xbox. And Microsoft can't change that.

 

[AmuroChan]

Tell that to people with connections not fast enough to stream 4K content.

Then they probably don't have a 4KTV either because the UHD Blu-ray library is dismal right now. If you're getting a 4KTV to watch 4K content, most of the content will be via streaming and not via physical media.

 

[maxiell]

"Only"

I hope you know how ridiculous that sounds.

 

[Lion Heart]

I'm bummed but it has no sway on my purchase decision. Honestly if Blockbuster and the like still existed where I could actually RENT Blurays, this would be devastating news for me. I'm no way in hell buying every movie I want to simply watch in Bluray.

I just need other avenues of 4K content. Sony probably knows this, can't say its a bad business decision but at the end of the day, I would have preferred to have it.

 

[ar4757]

Good for you but the math has been working out for them real good this generation and it will continue to do so.

Vote with your wallet, he does.

 

[ScaryShark]

Hey OP can you post how much all the other guts in the thing cost as well? Since everything else will add up to exactly $399 it'd be cool to see it spelled out.

 

[Santiako]

Oh man, Terry Crewes' character in Everybody Hates Chris was hilarious.

 

[EvB]

Lol. You sound like someone in 2006 talking about "Full HD"

To be fair , 10 years later there will still be lots of people who can't stream FULLL HD video on their connections.

 

[BumRush]

Probably not after the One S and Scorpio.

Remember that the Scorpio being a sales monster is not set in stone. The majority of console owners base purchases on money, and Sony isn't going to let next holiday season go without doing SOMETHING (e.g. Slim pro revision for $299 or $349 with a couple games).

 

[Oersted]

Did you ever consider that they're passing the savings onto you by ignoring movies and television? It's 4 the Players and not 4 the Watchers, you fucking ingrates.

They announced the Netflix and YouTube 4k apps on stage

 

[AmuroChan]

How many people in the market care about a slightly better PS4?

Exponentially more than how many people care about UHD blu-rays.

 

[BroBot]

Who cares about Blu rays the future is digital

UHD disc movies wouldn't install on the hard drive like ps4 disc games do. I don't want a 30gb movie taking up space on my PS4.

 

[muteki]

So in reality that would translate to +30~50$ in MSRP.

 

[RPGam3r]

I would love to see some source or evidence to support your claim if you don't mind.

I love my physical discs, even I can see what is coming. Services like Netflix, Amazon etc aren't as big as they are for lack of interest from the market. Music is dominated be streaming and digital services. PC gaming is a digital front as well. Why are we pretending like consoles will some how go against the grain and not end up here? Including how said consoles deliver other entertainment like movies?

 

[rokkerkory]

We will have to wait for the Pro Slim for the 4k BR

 

[Raylan]

They announced the Netflix and YouTube 4k apps on stage

Cause it's "for free" for them. Well, basically, they don't have to pay money for extra/more expensive hardware.

 

[Audioboxer]

How many people in the market care about a slightly better PS4?

Good news, you're about to find out really soon. Like months soon.

Meanwhile keep an eye on how the XB1 S sells given its the cheapest UHD player and GAFers seem to be rabid for UHD.