SF2 is a really divisive game. I fully expect more scores like this.
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Star Fox 2 - Review Thread
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SF2 is a really divisive game. I fully expect more scores like this.
AuthenticM
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yes and that game is amazing
MrSaturn99
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I dunno, I played the original Star Fox to completion over the summer and I think it still holds up. The only thing that keeps it from being a masterpiece in my eyes is that Route 3's bosses have some really cheap tactics (mainly whenever the camera zooms in and it becomes impossible to dodge their girth).
Looking forward to judging Star Fox 2 on its own merits. Regardless of its quality, it's beyond awesome we get to play something that never saw the light of day.
Looking forward to judging Star Fox 2 on its own merits. Regardless of its quality, it's beyond awesome we get to play something that never saw the light of day.
I really hope the ripping community gives us to way to genuinely play this in 240p. I have a SNES classic on the way, but I don't want to play this on anything other than a CRT.
The other games aged fine because they are rendered at 60 fps and SNES d-pad is ideal for 2D gameplay, not so much for 3D gameplay.
However while Starfox 2's graphics looks superior compared to the original game and Stunt Race FX, it also has better framerate (I believe Nintendo's framerate target to be 20fps with some dips for Starfox 2) which should make Starfox 2 more playable than Stunt Race FX and Starfox.
Star Orpheus
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Eh I was mainly joshing. I think that's the only game besides Star Fox 2 in the collection I have zero experience with.
The Hermit
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ign said:
What the fucking fuck?!?!!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Ive been saying this for years: Super Mario Kart has terrible controls. Its awful compared to what is out now. It is easily the biggest rose-colored glasses game on GAF.
KojiKnight
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How old is the IGN reviewer? The way he shits on the mode 7 and Star Fox games in comparison to the other titles on the system feels very uneven.
MaverickHunterX
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Wow at that IGN review (maybe it should have been cancelled and maybe it shouldn't have...okay)
The ironic thing is that if you think about it, in a matter of speaking, Star Fox 2 will definitely outsell lifetime sales of Star Fox Zero. Perhaps a classic SF revival isn't out of the cards yet...
The ironic thing is that if you think about it, in a matter of speaking, Star Fox 2 will definitely outsell lifetime sales of Star Fox Zero. Perhaps a classic SF revival isn't out of the cards yet...
TheMagician
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IGN literally reviewing Star Fox 2 as though it should be compared to today's software. Just doesn't read right.
Imagine their review of the original Super Mario Bros? Poor graphics and mono sound and brings nothing new to the table that we haven't seen in the New Super Mario Bros series.
Imagine their review of the original Super Mario Bros? Poor graphics and mono sound and brings nothing new to the table that we haven't seen in the New Super Mario Bros series.
Rellik
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Mario Kart didn't age well.
Another review thread where people cry over an opinion a meaningless number.
LordOcidax
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So... the classic Star Fox sucks now.... Thats not a validad point at all....
Why would you do that?
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I'm sad that people are now saying that the first (and best!) Star Fox game sucks now. 
It's the only Star Fox game that put emphasis in dodging things and flying instead of simply just shooting, and it had an amazing soundtrack to go with it.
Well for one, you can't die in the prototype one, lol. And based on footage we've seen, certain power-ups are given to you too early, like the lock-on beam is supposed to be an unlockable or something. The prototype was definitely made easier overall.
I disagree. I like Star Fox 2 a whole lot and the final game is my most anticipated game right now. I think everyone should play it because it's really neat and puts forth a bunch of cool ideas. The controls aren't that bad and the graphics are serviceable, but the only modern standard I do agree it definitely falls on is the frame rate. I personally don't mind the capped 20 FPS, but it's not hard to see how others could.
It's the only Star Fox game that put emphasis in dodging things and flying instead of simply just shooting, and it had an amazing soundtrack to go with it.Well for one, you can't die in the prototype one, lol. And based on footage we've seen, certain power-ups are given to you too early, like the lock-on beam is supposed to be an unlockable or something. The prototype was definitely made easier overall.
I disagree. I like Star Fox 2 a whole lot and the final game is my most anticipated game right now. I think everyone should play it because it's really neat and puts forth a bunch of cool ideas. The controls aren't that bad and the graphics are serviceable, but the only modern standard I do agree it definitely falls on is the frame rate. I personally don't mind the capped 20 FPS, but it's not hard to see how others could.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Maybe in popular vote, but jury ones are going to give it to zelda, or odyssey (if its as good as the previews are let to believe). Again same thing with wolfenstein 2 is as good as it seems, it may snatch some gotys also.
always possible that the game just isnt all that good
not that i have agreed with many ign reviews in my life
Reviewing games from a modern perspective is absolutely how it should be done because it's releasing this year, for people to buy.
My favorite game that I've played this year is Soldier Blade from 1992 on Wii U vc, with absolutely no concessions for its age (it's straight up that amazing to play).
My favorite game that I've played this year is Soldier Blade from 1992 on Wii U vc, with absolutely no concessions for its age (it's straight up that amazing to play).
polyh3dron
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Really? I distinctly recall the ceiling for SNES games in Ontario being $89.99... Maybe it was different in other provinces though.
Diprosalic
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i agree. MK64 is even worse.
The Hermit
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I played last week with friends. Most of them don't care about games, find them too complicated these days and we had a blast.
And if it wasn't for the awful framerate, Star Fox would be considered just as good as Star Fox 64
You mean besides Super Metroid? everything about that game is great except for the crappy controls.
If super Mario kart handles at all like the gba one in any capacity, I can absolutely see that it's aged terribly.
I've played F-Zero, it has aged decently. It's just a little too pinbally when you hit another car or mine etc.
I'm glad people can experience the soundtrack of this game.
F-Zero still controls like a dream. SMK's handling however is a mess.
F-Zero still controls like a dream. SMK's handling however is a mess.
Spieler Eins
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At worst the grapple beam is a little clunky. The screw attack and wall jump might be too finicky, but they also were in later games. And the button lay-out is customizable unlike other Metroids, so...
Playing with Toad/Koopa plays great, everyone else was always a mess.
Playing with Samurai Goroh plays great, everyone else was always a mess.
Jawmuncher
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I'm with you on that.
Dreamwriter
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Well, its missing the whole Roguelike aspect of the game. Thats kinda big.
Lupin the Third
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Stunt Race is great if you're willing to accept very sluggish gameplay and like 3 fps. I had fun with it, but I would prefer to play it, um....a lot faster.
Dream course is the best minigolf game ever, so no, it is not.
Woah dude. WOAH THERE. Kirby's Dream Course is one of the best local multiplayer games ever made.
Before you take anything IGN says seriously...
I still can't believe this really happened.... but it did.
Yoshimitsu126
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A 5 from IGN?
If I was a journalist I would question if Star Fox was even good to begin with.
If I was a journalist I would question if Star Fox was even good to begin with.
wild wild rice
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F-Zero holds up like a dream. I played a bit last year and the white knuckle intensity is still beyond basically every racer I've played in recent memory.
Total fucking masterpiece. And it's basically a tech demo. 😂
Total fucking masterpiece. And it's basically a tech demo. 😂
Is there a game Gamexplain does not like?
Star Orpheus
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Jeez didn't know it had that much a fanbse.
I was joking. Never even played it. I was probably going to ignore it if I got an SNES mini but seeing the defense for it I'm actually pretty interested now.
It's interesting as they do level quite a few complaints at the game throughout the review(dull objectives, dull levels, visuals, performance), but the real-time threat concept, technical scope, and novelty seemed to win them over. I kind of expected a more middling conclusion watching the video.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Yes? Sticker Star, Twilight Princess HD, Mario Party 10, Mario Maker 3DS. off the top of my head. They also gave BotW one of the few non-perfect scores
Their review of Star Fox 2 sounded very fair.
Jawmuncher
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Yeah Fzero holds up extremely well. Especially compared to Mario Kart on the same system.
Wowfunhappy
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Going off of the leaked version I've played, I actually think Star Fox 2 has aged a lot better than the first one, if only because the more experimental nature makes it harder to find a modern comparison point.
(Mind you, I still think the framerate kind of ruins it)