Dude theres just no way. If Capcom didnt have the money to make their biggest/best selling franchise, they shouldnt be making any more games at all.
I can assure you that Capcom was making this game without anyones financial backing.
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"Street Fighter V is a PS4 console exclusive" (PlayStation Blog)
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Dude theres just no way. If Capcom didnt have the money to make their biggest/best selling franchise, they shouldnt be making any more games at all.
I can assure you that Capcom was making this game without anyones financial backing.
I'm sure they'll give you an option to face PS4 players or PC players only.
On the StreetFighter x Tekken, you had a choice if you wanted to face Vita owners,PS3 owners, or both.
It's not their biggest, it's at least third behind Resident Evil and Monster Hunter, and your assurance doesn't mean much. Evidence would, so if you have some, I'm happy to read it.
Wouldn't their biggest franchise be resident evil?
And you have evidence saying that this game was never going to be made without the help of Sony?
If so, id be happy to read it.
It's not their biggest franchise in America or the world.
If you're talking about being the most recognizable? Yeah, it probably is.
N30RYU
Member
Maybe in two or three years capcom could have done the game (now looks like with all the other games in development doesn't have the resources)... but if sony put money to have it in the making early good for sony, the same way was good for MS putting money in Dead Rising 3.
I said 'if', I stated a possibility, one backed directly by quotes from Ono, in fact.
ShogunDarius
Member
you made the original claim so you have to provide proof, as for Capcom, Ono himself said they didn't have the resources
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ono-says-no-budget-for-street-fighter-v/1100-6411507/
It's not even close to their biggest franchise. That would be Monster Hunter.
From the other thread, I remember reading that they have quite a low budget to spend on console games now ($46m I think? Will look). It is not surprising that they would look to external funding if that is the case.
Ok, then I stand corrected on that.
Regardless, Street Fighter is a historic franchise. I think more people in America know about SF than RE, but thats not really the point. Everyone is saying that the game was never going to be made without Sony help, and I find that extremely hard to believe.
Capcom would have made the game regardless.
That article is talking about a port of USF4 to next gen, not SFV.
i was just going to say
hasnt ono said in the past that capcom couldnt/wouldnt give him the budget to do sf5 because theyre hurting for money?
seems pretty clear this is a bayonetta 2/nintendo type situation
ShogunDarius
Member
changed the link to a gamespot article now
but direct from Ono
https://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/356859689188868098
N30RYU
Member
The same way capcom could have made Dead Rising 3 regardless MS money at any point in the future...
Seven Force
Banned
It was probably going to be made regardless yeah, but it likely would have been way lower budget and would have come out way later. A Capcom executive straight up said not to expect it until 2018 at one point. Given all that we know about how Capcom operates in regards to getting games greenlit and sales projections, it's pretty obvious that they were hesitant about going about it on their own.
And I'm pretty sure RE is Capcom's biggest franchise, Not SF. Capcom seemed perfectly content leaving the series dead after Third Strike and probably would have left it that way had Ono not begged for them to take a chance on SFIV.
N30RYU
Member
"I'd like to try to Next-Gen for FG... However we dont have resorce..."
FG, aka Fighting game, pretty much includes any fighting game USF4 or SF5... and in the end both are coming to PS4.
John Bender
Banned
For reference Street Fighter 4 sold more than 4x what Dead Rising 2 did. It was somewhat of an expensive mistake for capcom
This soon? No.
Mr Moose
Member
Yeah, I don't see how anyone could be confused about it.
If you forget the Xbox 360 is a console, yes.
I actually think USF4 is a more interesting case. Sony are porting it, no? But it's only timed exclusive, does that mean Capcom are going to pay for an XBO port themselves after the exclusive window, or is it actually exclusive, but they just called it an exclusive debut because it's not contracted?
I don't even understand how they can not have the budget to port SSF4. It's already x86 and runs on anything. It seriously seems like it'd be dirt cheap to port.
Yeah, maybe not as soon.
But all I said was that they were going to make the game regardless. And it would have been made, maybe not as quick with the help of Sony, but youre never going to convince me that after 15 iterations of SF4, each selling nearly a million, that they were going throw the franchise in the trash and never make a next-gen SF game.
ElodieTicotoune
Banned
Why does Ryu have gloves?? isnt his point to hurt the opponent? I don't get it...
Why does it matter? Ono made it clear during the keynote they approached Sony about the partnership.
I think I've seen everything now.
Have you never punched someone/something? It hurts. Gloves help.
I don't think there's been any suggestion that the Street Fighter V wouldn't have existed at some point, what seems to have been suggested by Capcom/Ono over the past few months was that they were a long way from being able to work on the game because it isn't like releasing FIFA where you're almost guaranteed crazy sales. Although I hate the word, Street Fighter is far more hardcore and although there is a dedicated fan-base it isn't isn't big enough for them to be able to throw out new Street Fighters every year if they wanted to do that.
Street Fighter IV is five years (6?) old now and although they're still able to make sales on each interaction of SFIV there are without a doubt diminishing returns with each iteration. There was over ten years between the launches of III & IV and the number of sales that IV had means there was nothing to suggest that we wouldn't have been waiting another five years for SFV.
What's been suggested is that Sony were proactive about the PS4 versions of these two games and there are people in Sony actually taking part in building the games in some way or another.
Resident Evil doesn't even get anymore funding for large budgets what with the remakes of remakes and bottom of the barrel episodic slices of content. Especially after DmC failing to light the charts on fire, Lost planet a failure and the 1000 person developed RE6 underperforming both critically and commercially..SFXT its own brand of failure...they've lost more than half their shares in the past few years alone....
I'm just wondering what world some people are coming from where Capcom is this rich player who wants to throw money at console oriented big projects from any dev in their company who comes asking for funding, just because its legacy content or attached to a name brand. They've milked SF4 for 6 years on last gen for a reason. Without safety nets, and probably even with safety nets, they are going mobile and handheld only before too long. The fate of all these large conglomerates.
Thanks Sony for giving Ono a hand in the mean time though.
I'm just wondering what world some people are coming from where Capcom is this rich player who wants to throw money at console oriented big projects from any dev in their company who comes asking for funding, just because its legacy content or attached to a name brand. They've milked SF4 for 6 years on last gen for a reason. Without safety nets, and probably even with safety nets, they are going mobile and handheld only before too long. The fate of all these large conglomerates.
Thanks Sony for giving Ono a hand in the mean time though.
The fact that he remembered that old tweet and actually replied now indicates that fanboys truly go off the deep end most of the time. Seriously who does stuff like this?
Gloves protect a fighters hands. Guess Ryu doesn't want to break his hands, he is a swoll motherfucker.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Having a PC option here with cross-play prevents me from having to buy a new stick.
I am satisfied, though I'm disappointed that I won't be able to play with my brother who only has a One.
I am satisfied, though I'm disappointed that I won't be able to play with my brother who only has a One.
Gloves are to protect your hands, not your opponents face.
JimiNutz
Banned
Really?
I remember Gears of War constantly getting shit about its characters being roided up meat heads (despite the fact that it made sense from a design perspective since they were sliders fighting a physical war against hulking monsters).
But Ryu, who is a martial artist, is roided up to high haven to the point where his fucking forearms are probably bigger than the average Gaffers thighs and everyone is cool with it?
The art style in this game is fucking ridiculous.
Nemesis121
Member
PC makes you run a Bench Mark before you go online, 98% of players i have played have the best rating, I average 198FPS, PC doesn't have bad match up because of shitty PC, PC have bad match up because CAPCOM fucked over PC and made one of the worst netcodes ever..
You shouldn't be worried about PC performance you should pray Capcom makes a good netcode..
N30RYU
Member
Good for him if he remembered, to be sorry for Yusuf as an XBone owner
ElodieTicotoune
Banned
Allot of the other fighters don't wear gloves.....
And Dragon's Dogma, their biggest bomb.
They gave NT DMC so the DMC team could work on a new huge budget RPG franchise, it was their most expensive project until RE6, and damn, flatlined like a mar'fucker.
His arms are still thinner than Chunner's thighs.
Yeah, I got a TE SFIV 360 stick, and it works great on PC. If I pick this up, it'll most definitely be on PC. Cross Platform play sealed the deal.
Yeah, it would have eventually been made. As a super fan of the series, though, I can't help but be excited we're getting the next one so soon. If I only owned an X1, I'd be pissed, but owning all three consoles and a decent PC, I'm set. It is what it is, and there's no going back now. I'd prefer cross play with all consoles getting love, though.
Amazing box cover
Sweet cover. 'Only on PlayStation' is a lie tho. I guess they are pulling the same thing Microsoft did last gen with games that were on the 360 and PC only, claiming exclusivity.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Yep I have the same stick with a mod for PS3 compatibility that doesn't work on PS4. I'm not ready to be bothered with trying to make a new mod or a 3rd PCB work, and without a decent converter yet, this being on PC saves me some money for now.
PC is always considered to be another world altogether in these things to the point where some games receive a shy Steam logo at the end of the trailer and that's it.
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