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[Makai]

So an I alone in my Megaman love? I've only played the demo, but he's by far my favorite character in it. Dunno how he stacks up in the full game.

He's the same in the final version.

 

[sorakirosaki]

Together We Ride is such a good battle song though. It really gets you pumped up.

I had no clue Id~Purpose was the final battle theme of Awakening. I gave up on that game before finishing it.

Yes, there are a ton of composers working on this game just like Brawl.

its the final battle theme for the map im hoping id~hope makes it somewhere as well

 

[Moonlight]

So anyone playing Link have any suggestions on how to play him? I've been getting a little better with him (learning his kill moves, for one) but still not really sure what's the best options. Most reliable things that I'm doing so far is Up Special off the ledge at around 110% and f-tilts around like... 90% against Pikachu, haven't really found anything else. Not really sure what to do with his Specials. Arrow gimping doesn't really seem to work and I'm not sure where to work in bombs in my gameplan. Most of his aerials don't seem that spectacular either, but I'm probably missing something.

In any case, Link feels a lot more comfortable to play here than he ever did in Brawl or Melee. He's definitely the most rewarding character (IMO) in the demo.

 

[Timeaisis]

Nope. Mega Man is amazing. I've even figured out a use for his leaf shield! I'm doing the best I've ever done in a Smash game with him (3-0 against level 9 Mario in the demo).

Please tell me the secret of the leaf shield.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

So an I alone in my Megaman love? I've only played the demo, but he's by far my favorite character in it. Dunno how he stacks up in the full game.

Depends on if you prefer rushdown or zoning. Crash Bomb→ground A pressure is pretty good tho

 

[ffdgh]

So anyone playing Link have any suggestions on how to play him? I've been getting a little better with him (learning his kill moves, for one) but still not really sure what's the best options. Most reliable things that I'm doing so far is Up Special off the ledge at around 110% and f-tilts around like... 90% against Pikachu, haven't really found anything else. Not really sure what to do with his Specials. Arrow gimping doesn't really seem to work and I'm not sure where to work in bombs in my gameplan. Most of his aerials don't seem that spectacular either, but I'm probably missing something.

In any case, Link feels a lot more comfortable to play here than he ever did in Brawl or Melee. He's definitely the most rewarding character (IMO) in the demo.

Foward air off the edge is a reliable killing attack. Dash attack attack towards the edge works well too.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

If it's true, I find it hilarious and sad how Mewtwo got cut again.

Sakurai didnt wanted clones in this game

 

[PKGaming]

So an I alone in my Megaman love? I've only played the demo, but he's by far my favorite character in it. Dunno how he stacks up in the full game.

Seriously, I don't get why people think he's bad. I think he's amazing. WHenever I play with my friend who's just as experienced a Smash player as me, I always destroy with Mega Man. His back air is really good and his standard A is great for keeping people away from you and controlling the battle (not for approaching though). His smash attack is great as well. I love the range. However, his B attacks feel useless. I never use them because I don’t see much use for them. They don’t have any KO power, at least from what I’ve seen. Really, his standard A is good enough when it comes to projectiles. Also, his slide is pretty good for escaping. Like, if you tried to grab but missed, sliding away will help you escape punishment.

 

[Formless]

If you don't fast fall too much after a dair, you can try dair off stage to meteor smash.

 

[Kinsei]

What are you using the shield for? I have been playing with him, but I never use that move.

I've been using it on Mario since he can reflect projectiles with his cape. Throw a metal blade straight into the ground and then pick it up. Once the metal blade is in your hand use the leaf shield and dash towards him. While dashing throw your metal blade and you'll limit his moves. If he reflects it, the blade will just hit your shield, and it won't slow you down allowing you to follow up with an attack of your own. If he shields you should be on him fast enough to grab him before he rolls. If he jumps, the worst he can hit you with is a fireball and you'll be back to where you started.

 

[Violet_0]

damn Zelda's teleport is great for KOs now

Zelda > DHD, yo

 

[Cow Mengde]

Seriously, I don't get why people think he's bad. I think he's amazing. WHenever I play with my friend who's just as experienced a Smash player as me, I always destroy with Mega Man. His back air is really good and his standard A is great for keeping people away from you and controlling the battle (not for approaching though). His smash attack is great as well. I love the range. However, his B attacks feel useless. I never use them because I don’t see much use for them. They don’t have any KO power, at least from what I’ve seen. Really, his standard A is good enough when it comes to projectiles. Also, his slide is pretty good for escaping. Like, if you tried to grab but missed, sliding away will help you escape punishment.

It just depends on people's play styles. Some will suck with character X and other suck with character Y. For example, I suck with Marth but I'm much better with Roy cause he's more my style.

 

[Kriken]

So anyone playing Link have any suggestions on how to play him? I've been getting a little better with him (learning his kill moves, for one) but still not really sure what's the best options. Most reliable things that I'm doing so far is Up Special off the ledge at around 110% and f-tilts around like... 90% against Pikachu, haven't really found anything else. Not really sure what to do with his Specials. Arrow gimping doesn't really seem to work and I'm not sure where to work in bombs in my gameplan. Most of his aerials don't seem that spectacular either, but I'm probably missing something.

In any case, Link feels a lot more comfortable to play here than he ever did in Brawl or Melee. He's definitely the most rewarding character (IMO) in the demo.

His f-smash and up-smash are pretty good for knockback as well as his dash attack. Surprisingly enough, I find his arrows very useful for when the opponent is offstage as I've taken out lvl 9 AI at 70% with properly timed arrows

 

[Cow Mengde]

BTW, how is man Ike in Smash?

 

[Formless]

This tournament seems a little better, whether it's the players, characters, or just an extra day with the game.

 

[Diprosalic]

99% of the veteran changes are for the better, but I'd really like to hear Sakurai's reasoning for getting rid of Wario's shoulder tackle. That pose alone is on a ton of Wario box arts. It's iconic.

which shoulder tackle?

This tournament seems a little better, whether it's the players, characters, or just an extra day with the game.

which tournament?

 

[Kinsei]

which shoulder tackle?

His forward smash from Brawl. It was replaced with a punch.

 

[Ryce]

which shoulder tackle?

His side smash in Brawl.

 

[Formless]

New Jersey Invitational by Clash Tournaments

EDIT: vs the TourneyLocator one last night. That one was very entertaining too though

 

[Karsticles]

This tournament seems a little better, whether it's the players, characters, or just an extra day with the game.

Link?

 

[Regulus Tera]

Sakurai didnt wanted clones in this game

He has never said this, ever.

 

[random25]

So an I alone in my Megaman love? I've only played the demo, but he's by far my favorite character in it. Dunno how he stacks up in the full game.

I tried the demo too and I love Megaman. True to form. And very capable against lvl.9 AIs. Just needs getting used to especially on how to combine his buster attacks with other movesets for potential combos.

 

[Esque7]

New Jersey Invitational by Clash Tournaments

I've been watching this, Zelda is now amazing. Hyrule Tier curse broken.

 

[Neiteio]

Man, ROB looks SO GOOD in this game. SO GOOD. Did he receive some major buffs? So happy to see him holding his own in every matchup.

There was a series of great Duck Hunt vs. ROB matches earlier on twitch.tv/clashtournaments. Amazing camping. I'd like to see some doubles with those two together on an "Team NES." :-D

 

[Azuran]

It just depends on people's play styles. Some will suck with character X and other suck with character Y. For example, I suck with Marth but I'm much better with Roy cause he's more my style.

Yeah, it's just a matter of preference. I completely suck with Mario and can't land his f-air and b-air even if my life depended on it, but with Link I'm hitting aerials like crazy.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

He has never said this, ever.

It's a joke because Mewtwo is a clone as part of his character.

 

[PadWarrior]

Not anything that screams "must buy!" The CYBER one seems well-reviewed. As is the dreamGEAR Comfort one. But both mention flaws that make them not a perfect solution. I don't know. I might roll the dice and get the CYBER one and see what happens.

If you do let me know what you think about them.

 

[Violet_0]

I've been watching this, Zelda is now amazing. Hyrule Tier curse broken.

got schooled by Little Mac though. The only time I've seen Little Mac shine so far

 

[Oidisco]

Zelda looks great in Smash 4. Hated her in previous games, but I'm really considering using her when I get the Wii U version.

 

[Tenck]

Lol regular Samus is so fun even in smash 4. Was my main in every smash before, looks like that won't change now.

 

[theprodigy]

I've been watching this, Zelda is now amazing. Hyrule Tier curse broken.

Nairo gonna switch back to MK anyway /s

 

[Spinluck]

Seriously, I don't get why people think he's bad. I think he's amazing. WHenever I play with my friend who's just as experienced a Smash player as me, I always destroy with Mega Man. His back air is really good and his standard A is great for keeping people away from you and controlling the battle (not for approaching though). His smash attack is great as well. I love the range. However, his B attacks feel useless. I never use them because I don’t see much use for them. They don’t have any KO power, at least from what I’ve seen. Really, his standard A is good enough when it comes to projectiles. Also, his slide is pretty good for escaping. Like, if you tried to grab but missed, sliding away will help you escape punishment.

He's really fun, and when you utilize his moveset well you can KO pretty fast if you're able to play the keep away game successful with a hint of aggressiveness. A lot of his really good moves are laggy as hell though, either on startup or towards the end, or both.

He'd be a lot better if the dodge roll wasn't insanely spammable and REALLY safe. The air dodge being spammable sucks too, but you can catch them on landing lag sometimes.

 

[Diprosalic]

His forward smash from Brawl. It was replaced with a punch.

His side smash in Brawl.

ah yes, for some reason i thought he didn't have that move.

 

[PadWarrior]

I love Mega Man. Him and Mario are getting a ton of usage out of me.

 

[Neiteio]

So the grounded Little Mac is a hard check against Zelda. Zelda hard-checks Duck Hunt with her teleport KO-ing and bypassing traps. And Duck Hunt hard-checks Little Mac with his trap-setting, zoning and throws.

They're like starter Pokémon!

 

[Diprosalic]

I've been watching this, Zelda is now amazing. Hyrule Tier curse broken.

wasn't everybody crying that Zelda is even worse now?

 

[OminousShadow]

Whoa that custom cape sent ROB far

 

[Richie]

Wonder if you guys have seen this already? Made me smile to no end!

 

[MannyToons]

99% of the veteran changes are for the better, but I'd really like to hear Sakurai's reasoning for getting rid of Wario's shoulder tackle. That pose alone is on a ton of Wario box arts. It's iconic.

I assume it's due to the seemingly out of place, single Wario Land reference in a Wario Ware-based Wario. It's... honestly pretty understandable. Would've preferred for it to be kept, though.

 

[Spinluck]

Please tell me the secret of the leaf shield.

I only use the Leaf Shield when I'm about to go in for a grab... it still sucks though, but hey, might as well use it for something.

 

[georly]

Man, ROB looks SO GOOD in this game. SO GOOD. Did he receive some major buffs? So happy to see him holding his own in every matchup.

There was a series of great Duck Hunt vs. ROB matches earlier on twitch.tv/clashtournaments. Amazing camping. I'd like to see some doubles with those two together on an "Team NES." :-D

Rob plays so much better. I instantly fell in love trying him out when I unlocked him. Everything about him seems stronger and faster. Love love love new rob. Gonna try to learn him next.

wasn't everybody crying that Zelda is even worse now?

That's because she has to be played entirely differently now. She's 100% all about teleporting, which was never the case before. She's all about mixing up teleports and playing mindgames.

 

[Riou]

Lol regular Samus is so fun even in smash 4. Was my main in every smash before, looks like that won't change now.

I would like to hear some more impressions on samus. Almost no one is playing her on the streams =( Does her f-air have long landing lag and how is her new neutral air?

 

[balladofwindfishes]

wasn't everybody crying that Zelda is even worse now?

People were crying Ness was nerfed too, and he is apparently the best he's ever been.

 

[rekameohs]

Customs are making these matches so great

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

It's so nice to see almost all my mains from Brawl getting buffed.

Mario and Yoshi are finally getting vindicated after being on the bottom of the rug for so long.

 

[Moonlight]

Foward air off the edge is a reliable killing attack. Dash attack attack towards the edge works well too.

His f-smash and up-smash are pretty good for knockback as well as his dash attack. Surprisingly enough, I find his arrows very useful for when the opponent is offstage as I've taken out lvl 9 AI at 70% with properly timed arrows

Noted! Maybe I'm just bad at arrows, lol.

 

[Spinluck]

Link is incredible.

 

[Diprosalic]

i wonder if custom moves will be tournament legal.

 

[Esque7]

wasn't everybody crying that Zelda is even worse now?

The game's barely been out, so first impressions of any character could be completely off. Zelda has 100% been buffed though, through her up special now being a great KO and approach move, as well as the new ledge mechanics.

 

[TWILT]

Custom moves are making this a lot more interesting.