-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Tales of Rebirth -- high-res screens
- Thread starter king zell
- Start date
SolidSnakex
Member
jarrod said:
They could just update their sprites for once. It's not like all 2D RPG's look like this.
SolidSnakex said:They could just update their sprites for once. It's not like all 2D RPG's look like this.
The problem usually with High-res 2d games is that the animation is usually weak. Now I haven't played Atelier yet so who knows, maybe the animation is excellent. But from past experiences it just seems like it's either good animation or high-res and which one you prefer is pretty subjective.
SolidSnakex
Member
From the videos i've seen Atelier's is pretty good. It's not Street Fighter 3 or anything but about as good if not a bit better than your typical great looking 2D RPG. I was just making the point that NAMCO really needs to update their sprites. I don't see why so many 2D develoeprs just sticks with the same sprites over and over. Especially for something like Tales which is a big series and sells really well so it's not like they can't fund it or anything. Just compare this character to the ones in Tales:
Neutron Night
Banned
Hilarious. Fucking hilarious. You have the sheer AUDACITY to bash the sweet graphics of this game, and then you praise the GBA, which could not even BEGIN to imagine 2D graphics of that quality.
Maybe they should just make a GBA version. Sure, the game would look like utter ass in comparison, but people's standards would be so much lower that they would praise it on high.
Maybe they should just make a GBA version. Sure, the game would look like utter ass in comparison, but people's standards would be so much lower that they would praise it on high.
Agent Dormer
Dirty Drinking Smoker
Only one word is needed: FAP
Neutron Night
Banned
I was accused in the other thread of being a "graphics whore" and a hater of 2D, but I love the artstyle of this game. I want more games like this. We don't get these kind of games in the US because the mainstream plebians will only buy them on the GBA, if that. They can't appreciate actual high-tech 2D graphics and gameplay.
I admit this game is closer to PS1 2D, which is still a whole generation above the GBA.
I admit this game is closer to PS1 2D, which is still a whole generation above the GBA.
SolidSnakex
Member
Yah this is basically mid level PSone stuff, the top tier PSone 2D was stuff like Saga Frontier 2 and Legend of Mana. For the PS2 it'd be Guilty Gear and Atelier. It doesn't look bad or anything though and usually Tales games animate really well which is a big plus even if the sprites might not look the best.
Shouta
Member
Except for the fact that ToP and Narakiri Dungeon use SNES level Sprites and not actual PSX1-level sprites. VP, ToE, the original Guilty Gear would be PSX generation sprites and I hardly think you're going to get that on the GBA considering most of the games they've put out on it. That said, those ToR screens and sprites are fugly. I'd honestly expect more out of the goons doing this stuff but looking at this and how ugly their doing the port of Symphonia, I can tell they're pretty damn lazy in comparison to other porters. =b
and quit using that ugly emoticon.
Neutron Night
Banned
No, it doesn't. The GBA has only a fraction of the resolution of PS1 or pretty much any home console. You get fooled because it's all packed into a small screen, but there's just less pixels to work with. You are ALWAYS going to lose detail.
The medium is part of the hardware. Thanks for pointing out why cartridges should be dead and buried.
SolidSnakex said:
Errr what? Maybe the screens don't show it, but ToDIIJpn looked like PS2 level 2d and was definitely ahead technically (not art-wise) than any PSone rpg.
What you don't see in the screens is that the camera zooms around like Samurai Showdown going from far off shots to close up LARGE characters (well you can see that in one of the older shots of the main guy doing an uppercut type move). This kinda movement that the Tales series uses looks fantastic in motion and combined with tons of moves with unique animations makes the battles look great and better than anything PSone level.
Only on 2d map areas (and crappy 3d map) does the Tales of... series look PSone level.
Also GGXX may be high res but the animation is very average. So it's PS2 quality 2d because it's high-res? I'd argue that SF3:3S is as much a representation of this generation's level of 2d as GGXX is.
BobbyRobby
Member
Looks pretty good, except I hate that Lion thing.
And that Atelier game looks gorgeous. Who develops those games?
And that Atelier game looks gorgeous. Who develops those games?
Actually no, the medium would be the software. And for handhelds, carts still bring notable advantages (no moving parts, negligible battery drain, no skipping) to counter their inherent disadvantages (expensive silicon, little data capacity). Solid state is always better for handhelds if possible.Neutron Night said:
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
I just wish it was built for GameCube .. ah well, I'm gonna buy it anyway if it comes here, even if I had to buy a/an --------
Similar threads
- Poll