You should give AT1 and 2 a shot. Really, they are pretty good games full of wonderful music.
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Suzushiiro
Banned
I haven't done too much reasearch on AnS due to not wanting to spoil myself, but the Ar Tonelico trilogy still has a fair amount of otaku pandering- probably more than the Arland trilogy. It's much more of a traditional RPG than the Arland trilogy (though there's still an item crafting system which can be mostly ignored if you hate that kind of stuff) but also has a major system called "diving" where you unlock new spells by playing through visual novel-like scenarios in your Reyvateils' subconsiousness. The biggest strength of the series in my opinion is the ridiculously eargasmic vocal tracks.
Here's a decent article on the series- http://www.usgamer.net/articles/i-shall-give-you-endless-earth-an-ar-tonelico-retrospective
I loved AT3 myself (not played 1 or 2 and 2s game-breaking bugs put me right off) and will buy this day 1.
Also yes the OST in AT3 was fucking awesome. And from what I've heard so is this games OST.
Hell Gust games have been killing it with their music for the past few years
It's own progression/hybrid of 2 that;s engaging enough. It's above and beyond the let down that AT3 was
I've only known Durante from the PC gaming threads. Definitely new to me!
at least they recognized that it was a huge mistake and are including dual audio from then on. But I do think they should have realized it as a free DLC later on or something...
I guess I will have to wait for Ayesha plus to get localized.
While AnS has the music and gameplay if you cant handle AT3 pandering(which honestly is not much worse then that in AT1/2), then i would suggest you flee now. As some of the more risky Cgs really push the Cero D rating and i dont even want to post them here out of the possible outcry that could happen.
EvilKatarn
Member
Uh is this a video game I should put into my Vita or what?
I can't imagine why you would think that 3's isn't as bad as 1 and 2's. In 1, there's like one particularly infamous scene with suggestive dialog and other than that there's not much at all. 2 goes a little further but it's still not that bad. 3 has a battle system based on stripping, and on top of that it has way more creepy weird dialog.
Muffin Awesome
Member
I remember linking you to a scene from 3 and you were pretty much speechless!
The best
Tizoc
Member
Maybe its because i always play with Japanese voices but i found most talks about installing in 1 and 2 to be on level what 3 does. Stripping could be turned off and i believe that if 1/2 where made in 3d they would be on the same level.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
1 and 2 are pretty tame but the series got a bad stigma just from that one scene. I recently went through 1 and 2 and they're really great fun games with wonderful music.
ATXAlchemy
Member
I probably would have dived into Gust games sooner if it weren't for the fact that I saw my friend playing Metafalica years ago. I heard the dubbing, and it made made me bleed in every orifice.
I can now play JP games without a hitch, so I'll give Ciel nosurge another go (the offline version). I still have it on my Vita from PS+ and played a few hours. I loved the presentation but it felt like a "Love Plus+" game. I'm not an impatient man, but my attention span seems to get smaller when playing those type of games.
You clearly don't even play them.
Compared to what?
Not at all. For example, Totori and Meruru are wonderful coming-of-age stories, and have all the common ingredients of those concerning the main character's development, and they are well-realized to boot.
This is perhaps the most laughable instance of your wrongness. The entire setup of the Atelier games is almost entirely unique in JRPGs:
- They are non-linear, with a large number of distinct endings.
- They feature a complex and intricate crafting system which is at least as important to the overall gameplay as the battles are.
- They have a time-dependent quest and story structure.
How on earth is that not unique?
As for "tweaking", the alchemy system (a central component of the games) has changed fundamentally between the Arland and Dusk sub-series. And it looks like the next entry will do away with the time limit structure and replace it with a new way to distribute quests.
The stories aren't ridiculous at all. Not just compared to JRPGs, but to games in general. They are actually quite grounded. Also, "unoriginal" is just a ridiculous accusation to level at a developer that came up with the Ar Tonelico universe.
Gipsy Danger
Member
I assume AT1 and 2 only have releases on the PS2? I'm in Europe and it would set me back around £40 for both of them. Was there ever any rereleases? I'd really like to check them out.
From everything we know about Shallie it could as well be Mana Khemia 3.
Basileus777
Member
This just reminds me of why Escha and Logy was a disappointment. It only gets the crafting part of this right.
Kresnik258
Member
Well, this is bloody excellent.
I hope it includes Ar no Surge Plus on Vita too, even though I know it's going to be download only.
I hope it includes Ar no Surge Plus on Vita too, even though I know it's going to be download only.
I have a hard time getting myself to try a Gust game because of stuff like this.
facepalm007
Member
Day One for me!! I need dat music fix!!
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yeah, but it might be good to wait on AT2's re-translation project if you have a modded PS2 or can play them via emulator. The re-translation even puts back in features that were omitted in the Japanese release as well.
Infernal Monkey
Member
You should see the back!
Cheeky indeed!
lol, that's like Hank Hill's ass.
punkmaggit
Member
You gotta hand it to Tecmo Koei. They seem to localize everything.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I've got to laugh at people calling the atelier games by-the-numbers. They're about as unique as JRPGs go.
ATXAlchemy
Member
Well, there's no concrete announcement yet. Personally, I think this will be Ciel nosurge Offline.
Ar nosurge Plus and Ciel nosurge Offline contains all DLCs for their respective previous release, and also has some additions (for Ar nosurge at least).
Ciel Online -> Offline data transfer will be available, and Ar nosurge Plus will have some data link with Ciel On/Offline.
Yes and no. Ar nosurge was developed to be a stand alone experience. But you would benefit greatly having played ciel and the tonelico series. Especially on the latter.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Glad to hear is coming. We need more Ar Tonelico in our lives.
Possible. But the image teases is directly from ar nosurge
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Well, this is the more fan service laden series...
Ar Tonelicos are far from being high-quality JRPGs when the writing is godawful (the most boring kind of anime cliches + excessive pandering). The battle system is the only good part, but it's basically the same from the beginning to the end and the enemy random encounters are unbearable.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
i hope they release it on ps4 too, i dont buy games on my ps3 anymore
names2hard4you
Member
If it's a JRPG and it's on the Vita I might bite. These days it's hard for me to play that type of game on anything other than a handheld.
Durante, you already made me buy Divinity:OS, and now you're going to make me get the entire Gust back-catalog
Napalm_Frank
Member
Didn't they just announce enhanced Vita version for this? I wonder what are the chances of that getting a localization :/.
ShogunDarius
Member
I know this feel
Not buying this unless its the superior vita port.