CharminUltra
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I have them Neon utensils.
I hope the STAHVING meme never ends. So much fun, so much salt.
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The Flame in the Flood has its best debut on Switch - "Smashed expectations"
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I hope the STAHVING meme never ends. So much fun, so much salt.
Smiles and Cries
Member
is there an OT for this game?
superdeluxe
Member
But also agree, I've never seen this in the E shop, I hope they can update the shop, maybe categories?
Yoshimitsu126
Member
Great news. I hope Nintendo releases a figure on how many digital titles a Switch owner buys per month. Perhaps the next financial meetings they will hopefully do so.
I don't know for the Xbox but those PS4 owner i know is waiting these king of game get free in PS+
the search function exists for this express purpose my man.
Schucky Ducky
Banned
Does this game have a story? Looks super interesting.
Astral Dog
Member
Awesome
Thats the damned truth. I know there were many indie games on ps4 where I had the same thought. Coupled with the thought I could just buy them on steam for less.
Ps+ definitely established that mindset though.
The game released yesterday.
AgentOtaku
Member
Holy fucking shit, no way!
Saw these dudes way back in the day in FL, when i was a little punk rocker (^____^)
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Kotaku review says yes. It's a roguelike with an hour's long campaign, not sure how that works
Never heard of this before... That does look pretty great, added it to my wishlist! It's really heartwarming to read indie success stories like this and I hope quality indies can keep this momentum for as long as possible.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
The game is great! One of my favorites from the year.
The kickstarter original caught my eye, but I didn't pick it up until the beginning of this year (on PS4) because I've never been able to get into a survival game.
It looks gorgeous, the soundtrack is amazing, and there's a really nice balance to the crafting mechanics that allows you to play multiple ways. It was a joy to platinum.
The kickstarter original caught my eye, but I didn't pick it up until the beginning of this year (on PS4) because I've never been able to get into a survival game.
It looks gorgeous, the soundtrack is amazing, and there's a really nice balance to the crafting mechanics that allows you to play multiple ways. It was a joy to platinum.
OrbitalBeard
Member
PS+ and Games With Gold seem like amazing programs for the indies that are lucky enough to be included in them, but a nightmare for those who are not. I would imagine a large portion of the Sony and MS customer base have been conditioned to find little value in most indie releases because of these initiatives.
That's not to say they aren't good programs for consumers. I'm trying to look at it from the perspective of an indie team.
Smiles and Cries
Member
CrunchyFrog
Member
Such a neat n little title, one of my favorite kickstarters. The soundtrack makes it, even if it is balls to the wall hard.
Schucky Ducky
Banned
Hmm ok. I will keep an eye on this one. I have way to much to play and not enough time as it is, but maybe I'll pick this up after I get through some of my backlog.
themindkillah
Neo Member
I enjoyed it so much on PC when it came out. I'm really glad it's doing well on Switch.
benicillin
Banned
The Switch must have a crazy good attach rate just like the Vita did. There's a hell of an audience for portable indie experiences.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
I will buy it for a third time, I really like the game.
Skittzo0413
Member
They almost never discuss sales of eshop only titles at their results briefings, but I'm hoping that will change now that there is a lot of buzz around the Switch eshop.
It would significantly alter the software attach rate- I currently have 6 retail games and 19 eshop only games for instance.
dragonflys545
Member
Good for them. But it's a game I would never buy on other consoles simply because of the vast amount of better games to buy and play. Even if I get it for free from plus or live. I'd probably never play it.
Revolutionary
Member
Have to admit I've never heard of this game.
You just described all three current gen consoles.
Heh.
Reminds me of those 80's teen movies where the high-school loser suddenly becomes popular and then turns into an a-hole overnight, completely forgetting his roots and acting just like his former high-school bullies.
Nintendo fans are starved. Nintendo fans get games. Nintendo fans are suddenly insufferable about it.
Alcotholic
Banned
I love hearing about indie devs being successful on Nintendo consoles.
180 isnt exactly limited for a system thats half a year old.
The competition argument is really just a variation on the now ridiculed starving argument. In reality no console has grown this competitive an indie scene this fast, Switch is far outpacing even PS4 launch aligned in terms of how quickly its accruing indie games. Add to that the traditional 3rd parties who are showing up are generally putting out retro and lower price games that more directly compete with indie fare (Sonic Mania, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Namco Museum, Arcade Archives, I am Setsuna, Disgaea 5, USF2, Bomberman R, Mana Collection, etc, etc) and Nintendos highly competitive 1st party games also have much overlap with this same target audience. And despite all this indie games are still contually breaking records on Switch sales wise, its almost a meme itself at this point (as are the tired counter arguments against it).
At a certain point you just have to step back and reevaluate exactly why indie games are doing so well on the system. Were at the point now where logic fails when you try to explain it away as a lack of competition, in reality there is overwhelming competition on the system for indies.
Yeah it's good for consumers, but our mindset now lost how game worth.
Steam sales does that for me, i must really want a game to buy it at full price.
The Switch, for the portability, make me take some indies (Like Stardew Valley) even if i could buy it on Gog or Steam at a smaller price.
Great news for the devs. I got this at launch on Steam, but I knew it didn't do all that well there, which was a huge shame because it was a cool game with a lot of flavor.
That said, I don't really feel compelled to buy this again, but good on them for finally getting the success they deserve.
That said, I don't really feel compelled to buy this again, but good on them for finally getting the success they deserve.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I know when i buy it on switch, good or bad, it'll be a short experience that i can get thru quickly due to the Switch's availability in my life(portable can be played anywhere). Steamworld dig 2, for example. 16 hours, mostly complete and i was in heaven, playing it in the bathroom, when work slows down, in the bed, etc. Then i get sucked in and it's a very pleasant experience having this game 'closer' than a TV.
Revolutionary
Member
I think Cosmic Star would (deservedly) do really well on the Switch. Nintendo pls
The dev recently made a thread that sales were disappointing, so yeah here's hoping they get the chance to port it and get in on that sweet sweet starvation money.
bonesmccoy
Banned
That's great for these guys - but I don't think it reflects well on the Switch library. It's a nice looking game, but not fun to play, at all.
Competition was smaller on Wii U too, but games bombed on that left and right, so there's obviously more to it than just that. I did read your post, and I'm not sure why that poster warranted a response from you, since the theme the past few months is "____ game is successful on Switch! thread" and then some posters come in saying "Well duh Switch has no games and owners are starved." Which to some degree was very true in March, true in April, less true in May, so on and so forth. For being barely half a year old and having some of the highest quality indies already on the system, these other indie games finding success would tell a rational person that there's more to the story than just competition.
Welp, there goes my interest. Cool to hear its doing well on Switch though.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Read the post he responded to (mine). I specifically bring this up. All three consoles have sleep modes. Due to Switch's hybrid nature, it's much, much faster.
Its not like the Switch libary would change or be better if this game would have flopped on Switch - dont quite get your point.
DriftingSpirit
Member
It will be easier for these games now compared to 3-4 years from now when there are far more games on the system. I don't understand how that is an "excuse". It is common sense.
BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie
Banned
To be honest this post is about as annoying as any I've seen on the topic. Nintendo owners are like "high school losers turning into a-holes overnight"...
What the heck..?
Combine that with the fact that Switch owners actually are buying nuts amounts of games (as explained by Mat from the NPD group), and we have a winning formula for all games that are available.
Switch owners hungry
GOAT
It must help that Nintendo are now the only major platform holder really pushing indies to their customers via conferences. Microsoft gave up on really promoting indies a long time ago outside of rare exceptions like Ori and Cuphead.
Sony appeared to pick up where MS left off at the start of the generation but now they don't even include a sizzle reel of indies at their E3 conferences and it's become increasingly clear that they don't see indies as worth promoting as much as they used to.
Meanwhile, Nintendo push indies heavily in both their main Nintendo Directs and in dedicated Nindie showcases. They're cultivating an environment where their players are being actively pushed to check out what the indie scene has to offer, whereas MS and Sony are not. I believe the work Nintendo is putting into heavily pushing indies is paying off because they're not treating them like second class afterthoughts.
Now, of course, I'm not suggesting this is all selflessly big hearted of Nintendo. While Switch has had a great first year, there are gaps in Nintendo's first party output that isn't being filled with AAA third party titles. Not yet anyway. So pushing indies makes sense because they can fill the gaps in Nintendo's own schedule.
But whatever the reason for Nintendo pushing indies, it's great to see that it's paying dividends for the indie developers themselves. And it's just nice to see a platform holder throw their weight behind them after seeing MS and Sony withdraw from that.
Sony appeared to pick up where MS left off at the start of the generation but now they don't even include a sizzle reel of indies at their E3 conferences and it's become increasingly clear that they don't see indies as worth promoting as much as they used to.
Meanwhile, Nintendo push indies heavily in both their main Nintendo Directs and in dedicated Nindie showcases. They're cultivating an environment where their players are being actively pushed to check out what the indie scene has to offer, whereas MS and Sony are not. I believe the work Nintendo is putting into heavily pushing indies is paying off because they're not treating them like second class afterthoughts.
Now, of course, I'm not suggesting this is all selflessly big hearted of Nintendo. While Switch has had a great first year, there are gaps in Nintendo's first party output that isn't being filled with AAA third party titles. Not yet anyway. So pushing indies makes sense because they can fill the gaps in Nintendo's own schedule.
But whatever the reason for Nintendo pushing indies, it's great to see that it's paying dividends for the indie developers themselves. And it's just nice to see a platform holder throw their weight behind them after seeing MS and Sony withdraw from that.
RedSparrows
Member
I get wanting to play games on the go.
I don't get wanting that so much one basically ignores games until you can.
Good games are good games. It is ace if a zeitgeist gives them new life, but where were you guys before? Long before the Switch was known of, many of these games were available and... good.
Edit: to the above, MS push reels and interviews at E3 and other major events. What was in their show this year? Infamously, not many MS publishes games, and not all 3rd party AAA stuff either.
I don't get wanting that so much one basically ignores games until you can.
Good games are good games. It is ace if a zeitgeist gives them new life, but where were you guys before? Long before the Switch was known of, many of these games were available and... good.
Edit: to the above, MS push reels and interviews at E3 and other major events. What was in their show this year? Infamously, not many MS publishes games, and not all 3rd party AAA stuff either.
GhostTrick
Banned
"overwhelming competition".
No. Overwhelming competition for indies is on Steam or to a lesser extent, on PS4 and maybe Xbox One. Basically, we're talking here platforms with a LOT of weekly releases, high profile AAA games to a wealthy release of indies.
The competition argument isn't a variation, it's basically the non-trollish way to say the platform is new and the release schedule is still fresh and slow. Which means, smaller profile releases and also more sparse schedule.
I mean, the very fact you took games like USF2HD or Bomberman R or even Neogeo ports as competition to the indie fare is pretty much telling about the lack of competition.
Also, I stand again on "doing well" not being a general metric. It is a good thing for the devs claiming that, but doing well isn't the same dev to dev and hence why concrete numbers are more important than "did better on Switch than on X platform". A good exemple was that game who did as much on Switch in 1 month than on Steam in 1 year. Sure, it means for this dev it was doing better or doing well. But in concrete number, we were talking about a game selling 18k units. Which is why, if you want to draw a picture of the landscape, you need actual data rather than statements. And on top of that, you also need to look for the context around it. There's also no denying that some indie games are more suited to the Switch audience. I wouldn't be surprised if a game like Yooka Laylee or Hat in Time would perform better on Switch for exemple.
Revolutionary
Member
I did read it, but I chose to ignore it because you're talking about a difference of 10 seconds at most, and I didn't want to get into a pointless back-and-forth about it.
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