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The Last Story (Japan) |OT| The Gooch's Final (?) Fantasy
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Smiles and Cries
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IAmtheFMan said:
yeah the soundtrack is stellar
Effect said:
You're annoyed because you've already convinced yourself that Nintendo isn't localizing a game that has literally just released in Japan? Swell.
I can't wait for Nintendo to announce the Western versions of this and Xenoblade - partly because I want to play them, and partly because it'll finally put an end to all the complaining and negativity.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I hold hope that both Xenoblade and The Last Story will come to the West
I don't care what people say
I don't care what people say
Haunted
Member
I don't even know what kind of shitty internal calculations Nintendo has done to determine that this is not worth bringing over. 
And I certainly hope they revise them. Preferably sooner than later.
And I certainly hope they revise them. Preferably sooner than later.
wsippel said:
Well, that certainly makes me feel better. Thanks, guys.Shirokun said:
Hypereides
Member
Cow Mengde said:
Looks really awesome!
But i cant shake this feeling that its Gears of War the JRPG way. Alot of heavy references to it too. Still really cool regardless.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
After checking out the first hour footage, I will say the animation in combat seems overly stiff; extremely robotic. I hope it doesn't make the characters feel as if they're sliding around and clunky, unresponsive.
Mockingbird
Member
Exploring around the city now. It's pretty fun! There's lots to explore. I walked into a shady back-area and actually got robbed by some kids, which activated a search mini-game.
There's also another mini-game where you try to find six coins scattered around the city. Items are scattered all over the city actually. Sometimes while walking there will be a search icon that comes up where you can try and look around the floor for dropped items. It's pretty neat.
Edit: Man it took a long time but I finally found all six coins scattered around the city. The reward is a
though -- so it's pretty cool I suppose.
There's also another mini-game where you try to find six coins scattered around the city. Items are scattered all over the city actually. Sometimes while walking there will be a search icon that comes up where you can try and look around the floor for dropped items. It's pretty neat.
Edit: Man it took a long time but I finally found all six coins scattered around the city. The reward is a
hoe
ZephyrFate
Banned
Ugh, don't tell me that! I was fucking excited for this game but now it has a shit ton of animation issues? Awesome...
The Bookerman
Member
thefro said:
The rest of the game is awesome, but the animation is pretty stiff. They mocap'ed the cutscenes but didn't animate the fingers.
adversesolutions
Member
Notes so far:
・Loving the game.
・Story is extremely well-paced and engaging.
・Combat is very intuitive and flowing. Also QUICK, thank god.
・There is a quest in the 1st city which lets you get an item to turn your character's tops transparent. O_O
・The game requires strategizing at points, but I do find the game to be too easy at the moment. Mostly this is because of the five "lives" each character is given in combat. Really having one or two would have been better balanced.
・Upgrading weapons and armor seems to be the key. New armor is odd in that it has no defense bonus until you start upgrading.
So far this game represents a total facelift on the JRPG genre, and is definitely worth turning your Wii on for.
Oh, and about localization? Area names, attack names and more are already translated (and well!) in-game, so I cannot imagine these were not drawn up without the help of a professional translator. Thus I wouldn't be surprised if the game is already being translated as we speak.
・Loving the game.
・Made it to Chapter 15, at level 21.
・Combat is very intuitive and flowing. Also QUICK, thank god.
・There is a quest in the 1st city which lets you get an item to turn your character's tops transparent. O_O
・The game requires strategizing at points, but I do find the game to be too easy at the moment. Mostly this is because of the five "lives" each character is given in combat. Really having one or two would have been better balanced.
・Upgrading weapons and armor seems to be the key. New armor is odd in that it has no defense bonus until you start upgrading.
So far this game represents a total facelift on the JRPG genre, and is definitely worth turning your Wii on for.
Oh, and about localization? Area names, attack names and more are already translated (and well!) in-game, so I cannot imagine these were not drawn up without the help of a professional translator. Thus I wouldn't be surprised if the game is already being translated as we speak.
adversesolutions
Member
Da Gooch wants to hear from you if you speak dat neezy.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
My Wii won't be turned on until this or Xenoblade or ToG hits. Ok maybe it will but right now, I have no intent of buying any more Wii games in the near future.
Mockingbird
Member
I just finished two more quests in the city. One was finding this
-- a pain when it's such a big city =/
also, I tried to abuse a summon circle -- hoping to grind my levels -- but on my third summoning a warning came up that said "STRONG ENEMIES." They ended up killing me.
lost cat
also, I tried to abuse a summon circle -- hoping to grind my levels -- but on my third summoning a warning came up that said "STRONG ENEMIES." They ended up killing me.
-Oath said:
I've just been summoning one battle at all the summon circles to experience the battles there (they're different than the main game).
Really no reason to grind at all in this game unless you want to farm items.
It's basically a cakewalk until chapter 14 if you understand what you're supposed to be doing, and then some stuff gets somewhat more challenging. Rreally seems like they balanced it to be accessible for JRPG players who had never played an action game before.
I suggested to them to put in a hard mode for worldwide release which would only entail changing your different "LIFE" from 5 to 2.
The way the game is paced and structured, with carefully planned encounters and no randomness at all, the designers pretty much knew how strong you'd be at each encounter and balanced them accordingly. Also, with the way the levels and EXP scale, a party member ten or fifteen levels below the main character will be up to snuff after one or two encounters, and always in time for boss battles.
It seems there are points in the game when you have several missions available and are free to choose which one to tackle first, but those are balanced accordingly as well from what I've seen. You're free to grind if you wish to do so, by using summoning points or visiting the arena, but that hardly has any effect on the difficulty of main story missions.
In that regard, Last Story is pretty much perfect. It feels really, really similar to Mass Effect 2 in many ways I think - except it has much more loot, and much cooler weapons and armor. I still very much prefer Xenoblade for the great environments, exploration and overall design, but I think many people, even those who normally wouldn't enjoy JRPGs for more or less valid reasons, would have a lot of fun with Last Story. Those two games are pretty much polar opposites in any way (except for the loot, and the fact that they are two of the most competent Wii titles), yet they both differ from JRPG cliche very much. One is basically a single player MMO, while the other is very streamlined - like I wrote, a Japanese Mass Effect. And both rank at the very top of this gens JRPGs, in my humble opinion.
It seems there are points in the game when you have several missions available and are free to choose which one to tackle first, but those are balanced accordingly as well from what I've seen. You're free to grind if you wish to do so, by using summoning points or visiting the arena, but that hardly has any effect on the difficulty of main story missions.
In that regard, Last Story is pretty much perfect. It feels really, really similar to Mass Effect 2 in many ways I think - except it has much more loot, and much cooler weapons and armor. I still very much prefer Xenoblade for the great environments, exploration and overall design, but I think many people, even those who normally wouldn't enjoy JRPGs for more or less valid reasons, would have a lot of fun with Last Story. Those two games are pretty much polar opposites in any way (except for the loot, and the fact that they are two of the most competent Wii titles), yet they both differ from JRPG cliche very much. One is basically a single player MMO, while the other is very streamlined - like I wrote, a Japanese Mass Effect. And both rank at the very top of this gens JRPGs, in my humble opinion.
AndriaSang
Member
wsippel said:
In an Iwata Asks column, Sakaguchi said something about having seen a YouTube video of a Western game, and this drove him to think that he had to make changes to the JRPG formulas. Any idea what that game might be?
YMMV, of course.ivysaur12 said:
But this is truly how I feel after 15 hours of Last Story and 45 of Xenoblade. Which, in both cases, seems to be roughly half the game. One thing, pretty much the only thing I didn't like about Last Story is that Elza seems a wee bit emo. The whole game seems a bit heavy handed in that regard. Shulk, however, doesn't come across that way, he's more like your typical shonen protagonist. And not because shit doesn't hit the fan in Xenoblade. It does, it does so very early in the game - and it splatters.
Like I wrote, the game that came to mind playing Last Story was Mass Effect, so that would be my guess. But it's obviously hard to tell, not knowing which aspect of gamedesign he was talking about.AndriaSang said:
wsippel said:YMMV, of course.
But this is truly how I feel after 15 hours of Last Story and 45 of Xenoblade. Which, in both cases, seems to be roughly half the game. One thing, pretty much the only thing I didn't like about Last Story is that Elza seems a wee bit emo. The whole game seems a bit heavy handed in that regard. Shulk, however, doesn't come across that way, he's more like your typical shonen protagonist. And not because shit doesn't hit the fan in Xenoblade. It does, it does so very early in the game - and it splatters.
Like I wrote, the game that came to mind playing Last Story was Mass Effect, so that would be my guess. But it's obviously hard to tell, not knowing which aspect of gamedesign he was talking about.
Which do you think has a better plot? And are either even good?
Can't really say. To judge the plot, I'd need to actually finish both games. Especially considering I quit both games at what seems to be main twist. Not to mention my Japanese is lacking at best (as in: I only understand a couple of words and phrases). I played both games with a friend who's pretty much fluent, but he didn't care to translate every detail. He only gave me a basic "status update" after cutscenes and important dialogues.ivysaur12 said:
I've been taking some pics as I've been playing.
Also got the staff credits since duckrolls been bugging me to get them for a while. Not the best picture quality but every name should be readable.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/staff01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/staff02.jpg
Decided not to post impressions until I finish it since the game is so short and I'm at the endgame around 13 hours in now. So I'll finish it up the next time I play and write up my final thoughts.
Also got the staff credits since duckrolls been bugging me to get them for a while. Not the best picture quality but every name should be readable.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/staff01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/bebpo/staff02.jpg
Decided not to post impressions until I finish it since the game is so short and I'm at the endgame around 13 hours in now. So I'll finish it up the next time I play and write up my final thoughts.
Mockingbird
Member
Played a few more hours today. The game is pretty great so far. Excellent pacing. Having a good time with this.
Can someone please explain how the burst skill works at level 16? I just acquired it but I don't get the point of it exactly (my JP isn't good enough to read all that Kanji).
Can someone please explain how the burst skill works at level 16? I just acquired it but I don't get the point of it exactly (my JP isn't good enough to read all that Kanji).
So TLS players, how does the game rank up next to Mistwalker's other games?
How about other JRPGs this gen?
Also I noticed that there's SEVEN pages from only like two pages since the release of The Last Story on Pixiv. It seems the fan community has accepted it into the ranks (you know the ones).
How about other JRPGs this gen?
Also I noticed that there's SEVEN pages from only like two pages since the release of The Last Story on Pixiv. It seems the fan community has accepted it into the ranks (you know the ones).
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
What's the deal with NewGame+ in this?
Mockingbird
Member
Just finished a few online sessions in the raid mode. Damn that thing's pretty addicting. The rewards you get are some pretty damn powerful weapons for the single player game too. Using these weapons on where I'm at in the game feels like I'll be cheating or something. I was lucky enough to get two rare weapons on my 2nd and 3rd wins -- one of which is the Trident!
also, you really need competent players for these boss raids because without them you'll be dead or the time limit will run out. Make sure to get on those damn heal circles! I admit I was very incompetent =P I threw bananas that would mess up my teammates after I died! This game is really something! I'm now level R3 (you start at R1)!
also, you really need competent players for these boss raids because without them you'll be dead or the time limit will run out. Make sure to get on those damn heal circles! I admit I was very incompetent =P I threw bananas that would mess up my teammates after I died! This game is really something! I'm now level R3 (you start at R1)!
gregor7777
Banned
I like the direction Gooch takes with grinding in Lost Odyssey and apparently here.
While LO had some difficulty spikes, they tried to balance all of the enemies with the exp cap.
While LO had some difficulty spikes, they tried to balance all of the enemies with the exp cap.
f* you Nintendo
Mockingbird said:
That's a neat feature... you become a ghost when you run out of lives and can shoot banana peels or healing arrows at your teammates. You can still run around the map and do stuff and watch.
I hope they make a sequel because both online modes are really well thought out but could be expanded more. There's only 5 boss battles in raid mode (well,
six really since another dragon shows up
The number of maps in versus mode is fine but it'd be really fun to see a mode like capture the flag or something with this battle system.