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The state of NeoGAF
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vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
A thoughtful and articulate post, couldn't have said so better myself.
Not only that: he banned tenumi when tenumi critized his statement. And absolutely childish:
I don't remember this.
Wow.
Well.
Let's start. I wasn't there from the beginning. I joined in 2011, but I was lurking for a long time.I found the forum that kept leaking insiders info and having genuine discussion about video game sales absolutely fascinating. Other video game website I frequented was simply elementary school level trash talk with no thought behind the posting.
Critics of the site often said this place is toxic.To which I said bullshit. Have they actually been to other websites where sexist and homophobic slurs are not at all subtle. Let's not even get into the often accusation of bias. Nintendo was a laughing stock here when they screwed up during the Wii U era. Sony was a laughing stock here when they screwed up launching the PS3. Now it's just Microsoft turn when they screwed up Xbox One launch.
NeoGAF was daily part of my life. When I need a quick info on a game, mega OT thread was there. When I need to talk about some absolutely niche game, an enthusiastic group of people are there. Need a break from video game? Just need to check some news? We have Offtopics for that. Hey, you guys excited about that new Kamen Rider? There are people to talk to. Wanna share your excitement about latest stock performance? There's a group on that! Need a cliffnotes on the latest Apple or Google press conferences? We have that too.
I am not a quality poster. I showed my ignorance here and there. I posted about shits I didn't know enough about and was rightfully humbled. Many of my post were thoughtless one liners. In fact this may be the longest post I have ever made.
So why is this my last post here.
Let's not beat around the bush, the sexual harassment allegation about Evilore was the major one. But there are other issues about his characters.
When Iwata passed away, everyone was in grief, not everyone was going to act rational. So what does NeoGAF, the self-proclaimed leading message board for video game community do when one of the most beloved figure in the industry passed away? Why, nothing, since Evilore was tired of people acting like grieving people would.
FUCK THAT SHIT.
When another poster stated in an incredibly inoffensive argument about believing women, Evilore followed that post with a ban and a giant "FUCK YOU".
FUCK THAT SHIT TOO
All the people that made this place memorable in the first place for me are all gone. All the mods I like quit, all the colorful people gone. Many of the developers and journalists barely posted here anymore.
So I'm out, peace. In the end I didn't really make any memorable legendary posts. I was just cruising along and it was fun.
Let's start. I wasn't there from the beginning. I joined in 2011, but I was lurking for a long time.I found the forum that kept leaking insiders info and having genuine discussion about video game sales absolutely fascinating. Other video game website I frequented was simply elementary school level trash talk with no thought behind the posting.
Critics of the site often said this place is toxic.To which I said bullshit. Have they actually been to other websites where sexist and homophobic slurs are not at all subtle. Let's not even get into the often accusation of bias. Nintendo was a laughing stock here when they screwed up during the Wii U era. Sony was a laughing stock here when they screwed up launching the PS3. Now it's just Microsoft turn when they screwed up Xbox One launch.
NeoGAF was daily part of my life. When I need a quick info on a game, mega OT thread was there. When I need to talk about some absolutely niche game, an enthusiastic group of people are there. Need a break from video game? Just need to check some news? We have Offtopics for that. Hey, you guys excited about that new Kamen Rider? There are people to talk to. Wanna share your excitement about latest stock performance? There's a group on that! Need a cliffnotes on the latest Apple or Google press conferences? We have that too.
I am not a quality poster. I showed my ignorance here and there. I posted about shits I didn't know enough about and was rightfully humbled. Many of my post were thoughtless one liners. In fact this may be the longest post I have ever made.
So why is this my last post here.
Let's not beat around the bush, the sexual harassment allegation about Evilore was the major one. But there are other issues about his characters.
When Iwata passed away, everyone was in grief, not everyone was going to act rational. So what does NeoGAF, the self-proclaimed leading message board for video game community do when one of the most beloved figure in the industry passed away? Why, nothing, since Evilore was tired of people acting like grieving people would.
FUCK THAT SHIT.
When another poster stated in an incredibly inoffensive argument about believing women, Evilore followed that post with a ban and a giant "FUCK YOU".
FUCK THAT SHIT TOO
All the people that made this place memorable in the first place for me are all gone. All the mods I like quit, all the colorful people gone. Many of the developers and journalists barely posted here anymore.
So I'm out, peace. In the end I didn't really make any memorable legendary posts. I was just cruising along and it was fun.
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
Some time in June or so evilore made a its important for everybody to be able to state their opinions and debate them etc etc post in some thread in off topic. It got quoted endlessly by a ton of people saying how wonderful it was and how it was just what GAF needed.
But also some people responded to the post with examples of moderators and evilore failing to abide by this rule and questioned the sincerity of the post. Their posts were deleted and they were banned.
But also some people responded to the post with examples of moderators and evilore failing to abide by this rule and questioned the sincerity of the post. Their posts were deleted and they were banned.
Wireframe
Member
Alt-right sleeper cell, please stop. I'm dying haha.
Not only that: he banned tenumi when tenumi critized his statement. And absolutely childish:
WTF????
Lmao I'm not religious but I pray for some of you.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
People keep mentioning resetera. It's started and ran by the same mods that ban people who they disagree with socially. Can't help but be skeptical.
Hopefully Gaf will not continue with that type of moderating moving forward.
Hopefully Gaf will not continue with that type of moderating moving forward.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
This is truly a sad thing for me. Although I'm not a marquee poster or anything I've enjoyed visiting here everyday.
All this stuff coming out about El and his response is extremely disappointing. Additionally, this thread with the non-sense sjw comments is a letdown as well.
Hopefully resetera becomes a cool place to hang out. Neogaf isn't neogaf anymore.
All this stuff coming out about El and his response is extremely disappointing. Additionally, this thread with the non-sense sjw comments is a letdown as well.
Hopefully resetera becomes a cool place to hang out. Neogaf isn't neogaf anymore.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Nope.
Whatever the outcome, I'll always have the deepest love and respect for the gaming community that I interacted with here on a daily basis. I've been a member since '05, and I received my first ban this year for something that seemed pretty innocuous. I felt disrespected for having been what I considered to be a positive and decent contributor here for over a decade. I took that rather personally, and haven't felt quite right here since. I'll be watching how this story unfolds very closely, and hopefully I'll see you all again soon. Hit me up on Reddit if you want (same username).
17 Seconds
Banned
really sick of people saying that shutting down hate speech and generally alt-right fuckery is merely a "social disagreement"
This is false.
PanicFreak
Member
Not only that: he banned tenumi when tenumi critized his statement. And absolutely childish:
Wow.
Omotesando
Member
PSlayer
Member
Crowbcat racist joke had a huge topic about it and anyone could make an extra thread about it.yet everytime you want to talk about some new video,the thread get derailed because a small group of people protected by mods can come and change the topic of conversation bringing out something that is not even on the current video being discussed
It is the same with hat in time,red letter media and niche japanese games. The conversation always spiral into discussing off topic politics.
It's not.
QuixoticNeutral
Member
From what has been announced, this is not the case. The core administration team are not the mods that recently stepped down. They did reach out to former mods to advise on setting up, and from what I've gathered, more transparency about why bans are handed out are a central plank of their stated direction.
DraconisNav
Banned
Combined with all the dark and disturbing stuff that was revealed about Evilore, banning social discourse is an eye-brow raiser.
It's the kind of irresponsible, weak-willed, and morally absent leadership I got used to seeing from people like Newt Gingrich, Donald Trump, and countless other sexual abusers. Spineless leadership and empty, illogical excuses.
You're weak, Evilore. The mods who stuck with you, even after the screenshots revealed what a degenerate pervert you are, are weak. The handful of people who rally around you so they can keep discussing vidya are weak.
Why the fuck are we even discussing racist assholes tho?
Sorc3r3r
Member
isn't besada there?
It actually isn't. The people starting it are just members, and I don't think any of the old mods are even coming back. They're burnt out.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
GAF will move forward to into completely anonymous moderation. People will not be informed who banned them at all. People will not know who the mods even are. If anything the new system is extremely ripe for abuse.
17 Seconds
Banned
i bet there will be sooooo many bill burr and joe rogan fans on nugaf
The former GAF mods are there as advisors. I don't know in what way this will translate in the make-up of the forum.
sensui-tomo
Member
mods and old are running the place, lots of articles online showing who's running the place like Shinobi, zhugeEx, and others.
Not only that: he banned tenumi when tenumi critized his statement. And absolutely childish:
Disgusting.
See how easily he can get away with such behaviour on a big forum such as this? Nice powertrip.
*allegedly
PflargBlarg
Member
Evilore you are full of shit.
I've been here long enough to see plenty of posts and viewpoints from you that are absolutely vile. This facebook post that you say isn't true is completely believable in light of your past behavior.
Step down instead of somehow trying to shift blame onto the OT (wtf ???)
I've been here long enough to see plenty of posts and viewpoints from you that are absolutely vile. This facebook post that you say isn't true is completely believable in light of your past behavior.
Step down instead of somehow trying to shift blame onto the OT (wtf ???)
Omotesando
Member
Gotcha, in Mother Russia we have old saying "if you want bear to dance to your music, make bear think you're a bear"
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
Raptomex
Member
That is awful. But I am curious, do we actually know it was EL who banned Tenumi? I'm not defending his behavior and it most likely was him but I'm curious if there's any way to know who banned you outside of downright stating who it is in the ban message?Not only that: he banned tenumi when tenumi critized his statement. And absolutely childish:
That's life, man.
The topics are related. If someone makes a crowbcat thread, the fact that he has put racist stuff in his videos is worthy for discussion.
It sounds like you just want people to ignore it so others can enjoy the thread. Well, it's not just their forum. It's not just your forum. That's what happens in a community of people.
As a member, not a mod. ZhugeEX, Shinobi, Nibel are mods IIRC
Sorc3r3r
Member
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Yes there's proof, and it's by far not the only time Evilore banned someone because they had a disagreement.
We have literal conclusive evidence with the forum posts about revenge porn.
Casual Gamera
Member
Hot take, caping for milkshake ducks isn't the hill I'll die on but wasn't the OPA post a re-post of pics of Olimario's GF he traded a PSP for or something?
Fuck Amirox
idgaf
meme-buzzwords
idgaf
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17 Seconds
Banned
he already admitted to doing it once
and there's proof of the revenge porn
and there's proof he said sexual objectification is good
and there's proof he censored talk about a mod being a pedophile
And this proves the other allegations... how?
I didnt see clear examples but I've known about people quietly removed because they did not like their way of thinking. This example is just on another level to me though.
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