ethomaz
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Using PC 4k maxed ruins the point too.
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Tomb Raider PS4 Pro version vs PC Maxed out 4k screenshot comparison
- Thread starter Wishmaster92
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gofreak was curious and so was I, so yeah, I was comparing it to an upscaled 1080 image.
texhnolyze
Banned
Okay, maybe we can take nvidia stuff out. Yes, the vram would be the main problem I guess.
NeoRaider
Member
And no it doesn't? Why would it ruin the comparison when downscaling makes everything better? It's not fair comparison, but for the PC screenshot not PS4 Pro.
DistortionOfReality
Member
That gif is perfectly looped. So pleasing.
Oh yeh, and I think both screenshots look fantastic tbh. The kind of details being picked out are the sort of things you would struggle to notice in motion imo
ViolentP
Member
Relative to the current performance of the PS4, the $400 price tag is impressive. On it's own however, I don't think it's that great. Performance keeps getting sidelined in console gaming so selling a high image quality title doesn't really have any of the difficulties that come with making it run well.
For the sceptical, I remade the comparison using the uncompressed TIF image from S-E site instead of the JPEG.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/183844
Also, the image is not downscaled, it is just cropped to be properly seen on a 1080p monitor.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/183844
Also, the image is not downscaled, it is just cropped to be properly seen on a 1080p monitor.
LordRaptor
Member
An image using HQ soft blur (DOF post process) and then upscaled with - effectively - Bicubic sharper is going to look different to an untouched image scaled linear smooth scale though, surely?
I would imagine developers are going to prefer the softer 'natural' resizing for DoF effects than soften -> sharpen....?
PLASTICA-MAN
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Article about this thread is already here : http://www.dsogaming.com/screenshot...r-pc-versus-ps4-pro-4k-comparison-screenshot/
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
Same here. I don't plan on upgrading to a 4K display anytime soon, so if a number of titles (or at least all of Sony's first party) have largely improved 1080p modes then I'm in. Coming from experience with Nintendo and their stop gap systems, I'm a bit weary. What they've confirmed seems promising though.
It would look different if the bicubic sharpener was going from something like 240p to 4K for sure. The blur is like downscaling the image 8x or something whereas the upscale is only 2x.
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NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
This is definitely one of those "you have to squint and stare at it for 10 minutes" kind of things.
Both look good.
Both look good.
ViolentP
Member
Both look good. But the above comparison requires no squinting.
LelouchZero
Member
Okay sure, I'm playing through the beginning now, I'm going to do one at 1080p, 1440p and 4K with the highest graphical settings, and another screenshot at 1440p with the textures reduced to High from Very High. It looks like the PS4 Pro is using High textures.
It does
Sanctuary
Member
You and your ninja post. Read my edit! Plus, that actual shot doesn't appear to have HDR.
Anyway, that's good to know. I was actually debating on whether or not I wanted to play the PC version on my OLED at 1440p, or just play on my plasma at 1080p.
LordRaptor
Member
Ah okay, I see where you're getting the 240p from, which was confusing me - sure I see what you're saying. Most high quality DOF post processing uses a gradient though, so the composite can range from barely any blurring or downscaling, to whatever arbitrary values are chosen for aperture / focus / scatter - which is why I think developers are going to want to either selectively mask whats recomposited via checkerboarding, or do their DOF post process after that pass (which is probably the better looking choice, but the worst for performance)
Backfoggen
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Did you try it? I have read people that hooked their PCs with compatible GPUs up to HDR TVs and Tomb Raider didn't do shit.
Wishmaster92
Member
Looks great when i resized the pro image and it's not even the 1080p 30fps mode which is supposed to look better. Lighting is not 100% spot on but it will do.
pc 1080p maxed
ps4 pro 1080p resize
I don't have the game nor an HDR display, so no.
Maybe support will launch via update with PS4 Pro launch.
If you can't notice the difference you probably wasted your money on a 4K screen
Iced Arcade
Member
that's pretty damn nice for a $400 box
I haven't actually. To be honest I only found out it existed from reading this thread. I'll try it tonight when I get home though.
Conversely if you upscale the 1080p shot to 4K, you can see the relative benefit for a 4K TV with the Pro image. (Though it's not entirely apples-to-apples given that camera is a bit further out in the 1080p shot...but it's as good as we'll probably get for now).
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
I hope the maxed out Pro version can use PureHair to the max level.
blue_phazon
Member
Looks better than the PC version. It's good knowing I don't have to spend 2 grand on a PC, where all the games barely work due to compatibility, patches, or drivers or whatnot.
But seriously it looks good
this is a troll post
But seriously it looks good
Sanctuary
Member
Hmm. I can't find out whether or not it was actually implemented yet. Unless the DX12 patch added it, it's most likely not in. The link from above didn't even say that it was implemented either, only that they were working on it.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/391220/discussions/0/357286119109623872/
As of one month ago at least, HDR is not in the PC version.
Pankratous
Member
So...
Is it actually better to use Pro with a 1080p TV? I'd rather have upped graphical effects at 1080p than 4kinda.
Is it actually better to use Pro with a 1080p TV? I'd rather have upped graphical effects at 1080p than 4kinda.
Exactly.
While there's no doubt that a gaming pc (dependant on spec) is more capable, for price to performance ratio the PS4 PRO (and PS4 for that matter) is amazing.
I'm looking forward to November, the PS4is already capable of producing some stunning looking games, so to be able to have even prettier games is going to be great.
Clint Beastwood
Banned
Why are people incapable of looking in a non-black and white way? One doesn't have to look like shit while the other looks great.
Yeah they both look good but the PC looks better and if you need to squint and take 10 minutes to determine that, you should look into getting lasik.
We're at the point where people "see what they want to see" to support a position. There is an obvious difference, but again this comparing a $400 device with a lower spec to a system that is much more capable / one rendering lower than 4k vs one rendering at 4k and with a different preset of setting / effects available.
Both are indeed excellent considering the different systems.
I'd really like to see a default PS4 shot thrown into these comparisons. Most people won't be deciding between a $1,200+ PC and a PS4P, they'll be deciding whether the PS4P is worth the extra money, or worth the upgrade from a PS4/PS4Slim. Definitely need to see these the samples in motion too.
LukasTaves
Member
I'm on a cell phone, but even without expanding you can tell the extra softness on the ps4 pro version.
But I think I need more comparison pics before going either way, the game already looks bloody amazing even on a xbone, and while the pc version is obviously better it has more expensive and refined effects other than looking completely different like the witcher, so I dunno where the ps4 pro will fare. If they are delivering ultra or near ultra at twice 1080p and upscaling to 4k it will very impressive.
But I think I need more comparison pics before going either way, the game already looks bloody amazing even on a xbone, and while the pc version is obviously better it has more expensive and refined effects other than looking completely different like the witcher, so I dunno where the ps4 pro will fare. If they are delivering ultra or near ultra at twice 1080p and upscaling to 4k it will very impressive.
ShadowKingpin
Member
For a $400 console, that's incredible quality.
LelouchZero
Member
Okay here's a 4K screenshot at the same spot, the source file is a 7.58MB PNG image.
Screenshot
These are the settings I used:
Settings window 1
Settings window 2
Everything at the highest settings except the texture quality, I'm going to take another screenshot with the Very High texture setting and also shots at 2560x1440, 1920x1080 and 2880x1620.
Screenshot
These are the settings I used:
Settings window 1
Settings window 2
Everything at the highest settings except the texture quality, I'm going to take another screenshot with the Very High texture setting and also shots at 2560x1440, 1920x1080 and 2880x1620.
Sanctuary
Member
You won't get HDR unless your TV actually supports it. 1080p HDR screens are very uncommon.
edit: To clarify, HDR was what the Crystal Dynamics rep was focusing on regarding the Pro version last night when demoing the differences, before talking about how the game will have a slider for graphics/performance.
You should end up with a better IQ regardless on the Pro, but I can't personally see it being worth upgrading to the Pro if you already have a PS4 and are only playing on a 1080p screen.