Marty Chinn
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Lol to those that thought the XBO unveiling was just 'getting the tv stuff out of the way'.
How can you say it's not? E3 hasn't happened yet.
Lol to those that thought the XBO unveiling was just 'getting the tv stuff out of the way'.
No, what I mean is, if microsoft has all these rummored third party exclusives, why did they not include those with their 15 1st party games when they annouced them? If at their xbox reveal they said we will announce 21 exclusives it ould have sounded better.
I'm baffled at GAF's stupid point of view on the Xbox One.
As if a box couldn't do more than one thing, as if they had never played music or movies on 360/PS4.
Or is this silly "TV TV TV" line from Nintendo fans?
Yes, this. People are way overstating the non game aspects of it and we haven't even gotten to E3 yet.
Is it wrong for anybody to wait for concrete proof that these 15 exclusive titles are going to be targeted towards "hardcores?" For all we know, they could be a mixture of Kinect games & XBLA games.
Nope.
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...-on-xbox-one-indies-pre-owned-games-and-more/
.....Microsoft Studios is making over 15 exclusive games that will be coming to Xbox One, eight of which are brand new IPs....
Who asked for this?
It's not the TV features that puts us off. It's the compromises made with the hardware specs to support said features.
...sma.rt gueser. hat off tu u.Ballmer: "The FUTURE of entertainment... is network television sitcoms and dramas! We're talking exclusive NCIS and Bones apps,
fhtuure Sonicsonwer.balmer.Who asked for this?
You don't have to, but if there was actual demand it would probably help.I didn't realize people had to ask for something for someone to make something.
The buttocks has spoken....sma.rt gueser. hat off tu u.
fhtuure Sonicsonwer.balmer.
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
HIX? nojustnoo.no.stahlp.
You don't have to, but if there was actual demand it would probably help.
Why do people think 15 titles for Xbox One in the first year is outside the realm of possibility? Sony managed to do 28 first party exclusives in it's first year for the PS3 (including 8 downloadable titles). 15 is a very easy target to hit.
The people who think it's impossible might not be the type to WANT it to happen. Naturally I think it's possible. Quality-wise, who knows?Why do people think 15 titles for Xbox One in the first year is outside the realm of possibility? Sony managed to do 28 first party exclusives in it's first year for the PS3 (including 8 downloadable titles). 15 is a very easy target to hit.
Sony talks with Devs and Indis. MS talks with Hollywood.
Why do people think 15 titles for Xbox One in the first year is outside the realm of possibility? Sony managed to do 28 first party exclusives in it's first year for the PS3 (including 8 downloadable titles, and not including crappy filler like "Go Sports SKI!"). 15 is a very easy target to hit.
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
They did? That many? Do you have a list?
Oh wow. All of the TV stuff? Jeez!
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
Oh wow. All of the TV stuff? Jeez!
That's not the point: Microsoft seems to focus too much on incidental stuff not interesting to gamers - the TV streaming functionality is going to be present on pretty much any device, that's expected nowadays. But the games are the differentiator from their competition - something Microsoft seems to have forgotten.
Instead, they seem to be trying to sell a "mass media entertainment box" to a wider audience.
They did? That many? Do you have a list?
I want to believe. It seems like consoles never launch with stuff ready.21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
They did? That many? Do you have a list?
...sma.rt gueser. hat off tu u.
fhtuure Sonicsonwer.balmer.
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
HIX? nojustnoo.no.stahlp.
...sma.rt gueser. hat off tu u.
fhtuure Sonicsonwer.balmer.
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
HIX? nojustnoo.no.stahlp.
What did he confirm? halp!? lolThere you have it folks. Confirmation from our insider.
...sma.rt gueser. hat off tu u.
fhtuure Sonicsonwer.balmer.
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
HIX? nojustnoo.no.stahlp.
When you say Hix should stop, what do you mean?
What's with this popular line of thinking on gaming forums that if a company does one thing (that ones aren't interested in), then they aren't doing another (...something that people will be interested in)?
Why is it impossible to do/plan both?
It really is the 1990s all over again. Let me just state an irrefutable fact: you cannot marry the "storytelling power of TV with the interactive nature of games." It's a fucking pipe dream. They are two different mediums. At best, you'll get a half-baked version of what Kojima does. At worst, you get Night Trap and Sewer Shark.
...sma.rt gueser. hat off tu u.
fhtuure Sonicsonwer.balmer.
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
HIX? nojustnoo.no.stahlp.
They did? That many? Do you have a list?
November 2006-2007
Genji
Resistance: Fall of Man
NBA 07
Untold Legends (SOE)
F1 Championship
Motorstorm
MLB 07: The Show
Warhawk
Heavenly Sword
LAIR
NBA 08
Folklore
Eye of Judgement
Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction
Uncharted
Downloadables:
Blast Factor
Cash Guns Chaos
Lemmings
GripShift (SOE)
Flow
Super Rub a Dub
Calling all Cars!
Super Stardust HD
Piyotama
High Stakes on the Vegas Strip (SOE)
Everyday Shooter
PAIN
Pixeljunk Racers (part of a 3-game contract)
GO! Puzzle
...sma.rt gueser. hat off tu u.
fhtuure Sonicsonwer.balmer.
21/5 promoshtow was fakked from minut one.non of hte tvstuff ins ready yet.
HIX? nojustnoo.no.stahlp.
When you say Hix should stop, what do you mean?
What's with this popular line of thinking on gaming forums that if a company does one thing (that ones aren't interested in), then they aren't doing another (...something that people will be interested in)?
Why is it impossible to do/plan both?
When you say Hix should stop, what do you mean?
.Microsoft have invested $1 billion into games alone for Xbox One and have opened several new gaming studios.
15 first party published exclusives in the Xbox One's first year will be tough for the PS4 to match, never mind when it comes to third party exclusives etc.
Yeah there's a video interview where they actually show the real UI with the snap feature runs at like 5 frames per second. They faked all of it on stage.
Yeah, we found out shortly after the show. Apparently that wasn't the actual episode of Price is Right that was live at the time. Plus there were videos of an actual demonstration and while it worked ok (choppy video on initial channel pull-up) it wasn't as smooth as the stage presentation.
God. Sometimes I hatevideo gamesTV.
Sure:
November 2006-2007
Genji
Resistance: Fall of Man
NBA 07
Untold Legends (SOE)
F1 Championship
Motorstorm
MLB 07: The Show
Warhawk
Heavenly Sword
LAIR
NBA 08
Folklore
Eye of Judgement
Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction
Uncharted
Downloadables:
Blast Factor
Cash Guns Chaos
Lemmings
GripShift (SOE)
Flow
Super Rub a Dub
Calling all Cars!
Super Stardust HD
Piyotama
High Stakes on the Vegas Strip (SOE)
Everyday Shooter
PAIN
Pixeljunk Racers (part of a 3-game contract)
GO! Puzzle
I was a bit off; 14 were downloadable, 15 were retail games. So even if you don't count the downloads list you still have 15 first party games made in the first year. We're not sure if MS is counting downloadables in it's 15 (though I'm sure they are).
Sure:
I was a bit off; 14 were downloadable, 15 were retail games. So even if you don't count the downloads list you still have 15 first party games made in the first year. We're not sure if MS is counting downloadables in it's 15 (though I'm sure they are).
Not sure if that's what he's talking about, it's pretty indisputable that Microsoft have done things like open new gaming studios from scratch etc.
When you say Hix should stop, what do you mean?
Oh I wasn't doubting you. I just never knew it was that high and was curious. I certainly don't recall there being that many and I think counting some things like Lemmings is pushing it, but that's an interesting data point. I would have guessed closer to 10 retail releases from memory.
Not sure if that's what he's talking about, it's pretty indisputable that Microsoft have done things like open new gaming studios from scratch etc.
Zero demand and zero latent consumer desire, outside of marketing and sales meetings, seemingly.Well, absolutely it would be great if everything could launch with a demand for it. However, sometimes you need to create something new, in which case you start off with 0 demand for it.