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Twitch.tv update imposes delay up to 60s in streams, viewer interaction impacted
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TheAbsolution
Member
Yeah This has been making waves with the streamers I watch every day like Swiftor, and RSQViper and MANvsGame. It's terrible that they've done this because all of the viewers are not at the same delay so when something big happens on stream, there are multiple waves of reactions. It totally sucks and I hope that they roll back or improve it in some way.
jim2point0
Banned
Hey, people-that-make-stuff:
It may be a good idea to run your large, sweeping changes by your users before completely screwing them. You'll garner more loyalty with that attitude than "this is better because we said so now deal with it."
And to think... they were in the perfect position to collect all those people wanting to leave youtube looking for a new place to go.
This would really ruin the experience on MANvsGame's stream. I can think of a ton more....
It may be a good idea to run your large, sweeping changes by your users before completely screwing them. You'll garner more loyalty with that attitude than "this is better because we said so now deal with it."
And to think... they were in the perfect position to collect all those people wanting to leave youtube looking for a new place to go.
This would really ruin the experience on MANvsGame's stream. I can think of a ton more....
um the point of the post you quoted is that it doesn't matter for sports. It does matter for people that are streaming and interacting with the viewers, however. I don't see how the Killer Instinct streams by MS Studios will work with a delay, for example. There are also a lot of streams where the viewers give suggestions to the player, which won't work with a 60s delay
CBS did not buy twitch
CreepingFear
Member
Invest or whatever they did then. Semantics.
It's not semantics at all. They dealt ads for Twtich for awhile. It's like claiming MS bought Facebook or Digg for the same reason
TheAbsolution
Member
Um I don't know what stream you're watching but from what I've observed, Twitch chats are usually decent. Especially if they are well moderated.
I just did. Rather not support this sort of service.
There are more channels than just the ones with 1k+ viewers and bad moderation. In fact those are the minority.
I was just joking.
The only chat I've ever really paid attention to is the SaltyBet one and it pretty much makes the experience.
CreepingFear
Member
Some would argue that ads/sponsorship's are the same thing really, but I'm not interested in arguing with you on this. Things did change when CBS got involved in however you or me want to define their involvement.
That kind of crap only happens with the bigger streams. Find smaller streams where people are more friendly and better behaved.
SolidSnakex
Member
It seems pretty good if you have a subscription to it. If not then you're pretty much screwed for any popular livestreams. But it's still cool that they have 60fps archived videos.
Laieon
Member
Ustream and Livestream are both really, really bad imo. I'll take Twitch any day of the week, I've never had any problems with it.
TheAbsolution
Member
As bad as Twitch is, Ustresam is absolute garbage. Garbage. I think that Ustream even has a chat delay.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
The YouTube and Twitch tyranny continues.
It's time for Stage6 to...
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It's time for Stage6 to...
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soundscream
Member
No, he said it did matter.
CreepingFear
Member
The wild wild west days of the internet are long gone. It's been fun people, but now it's all over.
Dreams-Visions
Member
These are the kinds of things that happen when you've monopolized the market. You get to take the cheap way out by negatively impacting the customer. Because you know they don't really have a choice to go anywhere else.
Hah, Twitch's blowing up is a lot newer than youtube's as shown by their small staff. Someone could easily swoop in and take it from them with the right partnerships.
Not only would this ruin chat, it could ruin the betting system entirely if the time difference between the streamer and the users is too great.
ChosenPredator
Banned
all these video/streaming dominate sites need some severe competition
Gaf is the place that tells me I'm supposed to pay for every person I've ever enjoyed online. That no one just does it for fun and that they all deserve my money.
...that's how they improve turbo.
A 60 second delay? Impacted! Rendered unusable!!
Not all chats are like that.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well I was thinking about going turbo next week but I guess that's not happening anymore.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
CreepingFear
Member
I agree. It depends where you hang out. You are going to see a lot of immature assholes in channels where there's a woman showing cleavage or something. You all know who I'm talking about.
I think the problem is very few others can afford the massive bandwidth bills. own3d.tv went out of business because of those bills. That's why twitch.tv owns all their own data centers and is very slow to expand those data centers; they don't want to end up like own3d.
TheAbsolution
Member
Not all chats are like those. The less popular channels have chat that is more conversational for sure.
A 60 second delay? Impacted! Rendered unusable!!
EmCeeGramr
Member
I'm honestly wondering what would happen to Twitch if there was any kind of change in the streaming situation with LoL/Dota.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
Well, this fucking bites. I dunno if they've implemented it already or not but i've noticed when starting up my streams that it definitely takes a lot longer to load (always gotta check it to make sure it's running). I'm not that popular but I do have a few who are always there and it's nice to have conversations with them instead of using the keyboard to break up the flow.