Yes and Capcom has nothing to do with the port, their fault is trusting the IP to another company (Sony) without checking on it. Sony paid for the port and Sony hired Other Ocean.
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Yes and Capcom has nothing to do with the port, their fault is trusting the IP to another company (Sony) without checking on it. Sony paid for the port and Sony hired Other Ocean.
KidA Seven
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Apparently he likes Sony so much they are blameless.
nikos
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『Inaba Resident』;165355784 said:
Thanks for sharing.
I'm not sure if it's the Lab Zero driver adding input lag, but I'm using a DualShock 4 PCB in my stick (wired) and the input lag was instantly noticeable offline. If it is the driver causing it, it's not exclusive to PS3 sticks.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Maybe it's for online stability?『Inaba Resident』;165355784 said:
Culebra 64
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Are you kidding me? Sheesh, glad I stuck to my 'Don't buy shit at launch anymore ever, wait to see how it performs first' plan, I almost made the jump.
nikos
Member
Playing again, for whatever reason. http://www.twitch.tv/heartofbattle/
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
I'm starting to think its both at this point. Some sticks have input lag in both this and MKX. While using a DualShock 4 I noticed that it still doesn't feel 100% perfect offline while my Qanba is giving me a noticeable amount lag. I'm thinking that the driver is causing input lag for some sticks while the game itself has native lag as well.
Jarod McChicken
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I only ran through the training and the arcade mode with Decapre, but so far I didn't encounter any single bug, lag or sound problem.
The fact that the menu is slower is certainly not on purpose but can hardly be considered as a bug since you don't even notice it if you don't have the old version close by.
Took a random video of my beginning Decapre being raped by Cammy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xND1-8AUpfY
The fact that the menu is slower is certainly not on purpose but can hardly be considered as a bug since you don't even notice it if you don't have the old version close by.
Took a random video of my beginning Decapre being raped by Cammy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xND1-8AUpfY
nikos
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『Inaba Resident』;165357044 said:
Yeah, it seems to be a combination of the driver and the game itself. I have a feeling the driver is always on because I'm getting input lag even with a DS4. It would be nice to have a prompt when the game starts to enable/disable the driver, even if it worked 100%.
Joke's on you.
Again, let's be vocal, not just on here but on Social media.
https://twitter.com/Slixshot/status/603550802796417024 Gotten a few retweets. I suggest if you care enough, to use #PleaseFixStreetFighter and tweet @playstation @Capcom_unity and maybe even Geo Corsi
https://twitter.com/Slixshot/status/603550802796417024 Gotten a few retweets. I suggest if you care enough, to use #PleaseFixStreetFighter and tweet @playstation @Capcom_unity and maybe even Geo Corsi
Nerd_Incognito
Member
Contacting Sony Support for a refund...
Gotta say, Microsoft is way better at handling customer service. They have the exact same no refund policy but refunded an accidental purchase I made on 360 a couple years back.
Gotta say, Microsoft is way better at handling customer service. They have the exact same no refund policy but refunded an accidental purchase I made on 360 a couple years back.
Is this confirmed?
I think sony support is some of the worse I've had to deal with.
So Capcom has nothing to do with the port...but is insisting that it be used for their Pro Tour?
It might be sony that's pushing for that too.
Neff
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Not at all. It just needs the supervision of a team who knows what they're doing and gives a shit. But my fear is that if Sony stays with Other Ocean, demanding they sort out what may be beyond their comprehension or talent to fix, that this situation will go around in circles for a long time, which is time SFIV doesn't have. And will also mean I'll have wasted my money.
While it's fair to say that there are many ports from a Digital Eclipse/Backbone background that are competent enough for the asking price, there are also just as many with cut corners, unfaithful elements and bugs, usually passed off with the excuses of "There wasn't enough time to sort it out," or "There were problems we couldn't solve." And that's what we've got here. And with an audience like SFIV's, nothing but the best is acceptable.
They should have hired a Japanese team or an exceptional Western team to port it, and I hope this is how this port will end up being fixed.
Extremely disappointing for all of us who've paid for this.
Duane Cunningham
Member
Wow, Sony's customer service agent spelled it play Station.
Actually, it probably could and would.
I would be willing to bet that's exactly what is going to be needed.
And didn't that driver come with the day one patch?
Yet those who have retried it without are saying they don't really notice a difference. - I suppose it's a bit too early to know, definitively, everything that is wrong and what is causing it.
I don't necessarily think that's the case. The biggest problem will probably be identifying all the gameplay changes that have been created during the porting. And then maybe if they have time, they should change the dishonest "start" menu.
There are not only technical issues in this game, also gameplay-related shit that is literally breaking characters. It's like the people in charge had no idea what they were doing.
No, this is a total mess.
Capcom doesn't make consoles. Sony put 500,000 on their Pro Tour and it's co-funding SFV, it's Sony that wants SFIV to be running on PS4 at Evo and the rest of the tour.
Projectjustice
Banned
Exactly! So lets stop blaming Capcom here. This is on Sony's hands.
Pretty much.
If it was just say, menu lag and sound issues that'd be one thing.
When you have deeper rooted things like disappearing projectiles, crashes and E.Ryu's U2 glitch... there's no telling how many smaller interactions will have bugs and that absolutely cannot happen at a tourney level.
The reason time is not on their side is because before they can even begin to properly fix all this, they have to actually identify all the problems to begin with, then fix them.
Considering problems keep arising and EVO is only less than two months away... it is not looking good.
nikos
Member
Oh yeah, that's true. People who have tested it without the patch are still experiencing input lag. If that patch is the driver, than there's a separate issue.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
This is on everybody's hands.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
If Sony is really fully in charge of the port I'm not sure if that makes this better or worse.
Capcom seems to watch what the players are saying but they can really drag their feet on follow through. Like how it took almost a year for a big patch for 3rd Strike Online to be put through their own Q/A process. They can also be cheap.
Sony on the other hand seems to randomly ignore what's happening and has terrible customer support. This may depend on whether Sony fully realizes what they've gotten into by pledging support to the tournament scene. This is an audience you can't treat like uninformed or casual consumers who don't understand when something has issues.
Capcom seems to watch what the players are saying but they can really drag their feet on follow through. Like how it took almost a year for a big patch for 3rd Strike Online to be put through their own Q/A process. They can also be cheap.
Sony on the other hand seems to randomly ignore what's happening and has terrible customer support. This may depend on whether Sony fully realizes what they've gotten into by pledging support to the tournament scene. This is an audience you can't treat like uninformed or casual consumers who don't understand when something has issues.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
No lets blame all 3 parties involved at the end of the day its still Capcom's IP.
RobRSG
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Capcom's omission is inexcusable. This is on their hands Capcom, Other Ocean and Sony equally.
Looks like they're giving this version the middle finger until it's fixed (if ever).
Curious, any footage of this ?
Like, the game crashes ?
Allowing critical bugs to go through like that would put Other Ocean on a new tier.
The more you guys document the more data they have, so do capture these instead of hyperboling it out of proportion.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
The only thing we have at this point is Ono saying that he's going to talk to Sony about this.
And the day one patch really doesn't change anything from what I've noticed.
The specific things he is listing are documented and have footage on Youtube. That's how we know they're present. (There's more footage than this)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wxkyhNy6fY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmKqBdAVYPs&feature=youtu.be&a
Absolutely no hyperbole here.
Sony shouldn't have hired Other Ocean
SF is Capcom's IP. They should have been looking over this port closely.
Other Ocean did a fucking terrible job porting it.
Like I said, the blame is on everybody.
NoctisVsStar
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『Inaba Resident』;165360203 said:
The blame is on sony, capcom got nothing to do with this. They're busy working on SFV if you got a beef attack sony for being cheap and hiring ocean. Why not hire iron galaxy or bluepoint? Sony are the ones pushing for Ultra to be played on ps4 at evo not capcom.
Good.
Honestly Capcom should have had the for sight to dedicate a small team to this. And I'm honestly shocked people at Capcom didn't have testers on hand to try this out when it was going through QA.
All parties involved are to blame.
I had the game crash on me in training mode.
I seen this on Twitter.
How easy is it recreate these problems by the way?
You joke, but it's an internal/outsourced Sony team that did the port for Sony. Which makes this entire saga funny. Capcom only okayed someone doing the port.
We'll see if Evo uses this version, but I kinda think Mr. Wizard and the other dude will go "oh hell naw" on this with Evo being two months(?) away. Unless Sony pays them hardcore, in which case: welp.
Projectile glitch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkm84zBl4ug
Madness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3_uTlgodXE
I thought the complaints were just technical stuff like slow menus (which I couldn't notice) but it runs far deeper than that as shown in the videos above.
RobRSG
Member
Capcom has the fighting game know-how. They know how accurate a fighting game must be.
Letting it fully on Other Ocean hands is simply inexcusable. Maybe they should remove Capcom's logo if they're not partially responsible for this.
Sony has always been an official sponsor of Evo and PS4 is a requirement of the Capcom pro tour. Which means Capcom is just as involved in the deal. I also believe Capcom does get some blame seeing as this is one of their big IPs