Hydrargyrus
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When I read some info of U4 all sound too good to be true, but I see all those videos and gifs and then it looks even better!!
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Uncharted 4 preview thread. New footage/info
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What about the clouds casting ground shadows?
gamerMan
Member
that has seriously impressed me. and i imagine it's such a fluke of aligned AI and the actions they chose to do (sam could have easily choked him) that i'll probably never see it in my entire run of the game. lol
As amazing this game looks, this is truly incredible. The way the AI is behaving and the way the animation is stringed together looks almost perfect. It's like watching a choreographed animated scene except all the behavior is controlled through AI. I have never seen anything like it before. There are going to be so many awesome moments in the game because Naughty Dog has worked on the smallest things that no other developer would bother with.
What about them? The clouds are as you described them. They cast shadows.
Wishmaster92
Member
Sounds simple on paper but what other games do you see doing this?What about them? The clouds are as you described them. They cast shadows.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Red Dead Redemption and Halo reach did it last gen
Well, DriveClub and Horizon Zero Dawn are two games I can think of that have clouds casting shadows.
Didn't Shadow of the Culosses do this on PS2?
What about them? The clouds are as you described them. They cast shadows.
Makes a case for the game having GI doesn't it?
FFXV? Driveclub?
GarciaHotspur
Member
Everybody loves the Jeep but please dont be the Batmobile of Arkham Knight...
I hope we won't use it too much
I hope we won't use it too much
This.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I hope there a Jeep Nathan Drake skin so we can be a jeep while driving a jeep.
Uncharted 4: A Jeep's Beginning
Uncharted 4: A Jeep's Beginning
Ghost Slayer
Member
Now I want a mode where you play like Road Rash. Nate kills every competitors just to get to finish line.
Not really. Volumetric clouds that cast shadows and global illumination are almost completely unrelated unless I'm mistaken.
It's a much softer, smoother, easier experience than Bayo. I cant imagine you'll feel burnt out on Uncharted.
I disagree. You lose all the pacing if you just watch the cutscenes. Pop the first one on easy and breeze through it - then hit 2 and 3 on Hard.
Bornstellar
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Global Illumination generally refers to radiance from light bouncing off of surfaces. In the vast majority of games this is baked. Several (Quantum Break most recently) do this in real time (to great effect in QB with several jaw dropping time-lapse moments).
Doesn't really matter though, UC4 looks beautiful GI or no.
Yeah, that's what I thought. It's a completely different thing from volumetric clouds. UC4 seems to be mostly using baked GI but the flashlight could be using some form of dynamic GI ala The Last Of Us.
mrqs
Member
Some streamer interviewed a dev and leaked a bit more dialogue from the end of the demo, i think.
I don't know if anyone else showed that, but the official demo from sony didn't.
https://youtu.be/3W6Wg5X2vaY?t=1977
I don't know if anyone else showed that, but the official demo from sony didn't.
https://youtu.be/3W6Wg5X2vaY?t=1977
Nightengale
Member
They're allowed to show it until that point. Sony's official demo cuts off at bridge drop for dramatic effect since it's cooler that way.
mrqs
Member
Got it!
Equanimity
Member
Beam on tall grass:
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Where is the best play through
Equanimity
Member
Mud forming on tires:
Pound_lb003
Member
Not that it isn't cool (it is), but firstly I don't think SotC implementation was based on actual clouds, and we don't even know if that's how Uncharted 4 is doing it yet.
And more importantly, Shadow of the Colossus did stuff on the PS2 that is still ridiculously impressive. Mainly because making systems like that will ALWAYS be impressive, regardless of the power that's available to devs to realise them.
Shadow of the Colossus had a weird version of self shadowing, when most games on PS2 didn't even manage real time shadows, let alone that. There's PS3 games that didn't have self shadowing.
So, I don't want to get spoiled but, game's gud?
stargateheaven
Member
i think you're remembering it better than it was. I mean yeah it was good but just look at this.
Dictator93
Member
You do not actually need volumetric clouds for clouds to cast shadows, nor do volumetric clouds necessarily cast shadows, rather, you can just overlay a texture that moves throughout the level (the way Crysis 1 did it for example).
Have we actually seen how clouds are done in UC4? The one .gif posted a while back of the jeep moving through the level got some comments that it is a skybox image.
Closer look at the water
https://youtu.be/F30DMF_htu0?t=357
(No idea what the guy in the video is saying though)
https://youtu.be/F30DMF_htu0?t=357
(No idea what the guy in the video is saying though)
Equanimity
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Primethius
Banned
Haven't seen any volumetric clouds so far. And yea, that was a skybox image.
potatohead
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Spintires.
mrqs
Member
That's awesome!
Pretty explosion
I remember that in the first PSX demo those explosions were like sprites that follow the camera. Did anyone heard more about that? It was pretty ugly looking going around the smoke and seeing it following you, pretty unatural. Hopefully they changed to something more 3d-like, even if it's a pre-rendered thing and not in real time.
raidergale
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He's just saying that, while he usually prefers 60fps games, the level of detail achieved by U4 makes 30fps perfectly acceptable, so he's not saying anything particularly technical.
What's interesting is Drake's journal at 9:44, "Useful Italian phrases". I wonder if it's just there because it's the Italian build or if it hints at a possible location Drake visits in the game (or before the game, I don't know).
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Glorious.Beam on tall grass:
I want to see a laser beam shining at the muddy water now.
lukeskymac
Member
Pretty sure Italy's confirmed. The Nadine reveal took place in Italy IIRC.
Well I'm confused cuz I thought we've seen plenty of that happening in UC4 even aside from the flashlight.
This kind of stuff has been happening since at least Uncharted 3 and The Last of Us.
Ellie would brick people who headlocked you.
Fancy Clown
Member
He's not just talking about AI saving you. Look at the way the AI string together their attacks and how the animations blend smoothly to make it look totally organic.
mrqs
Member
Sorry for the crap quality
The evolution in general between Uncharted 1~2 to The Last of Us was gigantic. It really shows on Uncharted 4. It's really outstanding.
potatohead
Member
I really wonder what this means for (the possibility of) TLOU 2.
One thing I would've really liked is more open spaces to explore different routes and stealth and so on.
They could really make even more of a survival game atmosphere I guess. Not that more is always better, but would be great to have TLOU where you could explore the wasteland environments even more.
One thing I would've really liked is more open spaces to explore different routes and stealth and so on.
They could really make even more of a survival game atmosphere I guess. Not that more is always better, but would be great to have TLOU where you could explore the wasteland environments even more.
Dictator93
Member
I would imagine they are pre-rendering animated billboards for explosions in some sort of fluid simulation software already.
ThxHope these help:
Yeah, it looks like a scrolling / animated skybox image.
VeryNicePerson
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"Do you have a boyfriend ?" Casanova is back !
They mentioned an Italian Villa, so that's probably it.
VeryNicePerson
Member
Nice catch, I didn't even notice that. Casanova deconfirmed. It could be Sam given the line just after.