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[orochi91]

I think the GAF moderation crew handled this Amir0x stuff quite well.

He was promptly dealt with as soon as the official reports came out.

I've noticed sites elsewhere (loaded with banned GAF members, lol) using this incident as ammo for their anti-GAF rhetoric, as if GAF is some alleged safe-haven for pedophiles and etc. Utter nonsense from that crowd.

OP, there are many nice folks and discussions here on GAF specifically due to good moderation efforts, something that many other social outlets on the internet lack.

 

[tearsofash]

I can be very nice.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

Mostly cool cats in here, we'll get over it

It's always hard to deal with someone you have some sort of relationship with letting you down like this, but after all he was one of like 170k posters here.

I was not directly involved in the handling of the first threads etc, (euros need to sleep too) but when all is said and done, I'll 100 % stand behind how this all was handled from a moderation perspective.

 

[duckroll]

I've been here since (and before) NeoGAF's inception. 13 years, I guess. And I've got at least 12 bans. But only a few of those, imho, were warranted. Strangely enough, one of my bans years ago was for calling Amir0x "pathetic"!

Dude, four of those bans were you requesting for a ban. C'mon son.

 

[CyclopsRock]

This'll leave you feeling warm:

https://twitter.com/Hopenlesmyth/status/880316858137796608

 

[KOCMOHABT]

Interestingly I often read about Neogaf being a "cesspool" and a total shithole blabla

Which I find amazing, since I think this is easily one of the most interesting and calm communities.

Moderation works fine, too, for threads that derail a bit.

 

[cr0w]

I try to be as nice as possible, but sometimes absolute stupidity (or BvS conversation) gets me heated and I have to step away before I say something dumb. I used to be a negative asshole in my 20s, but life tends to mellow you out as you grow up. I still feel strongly about many things, but I'm nowhere near the idealist I used to be.

As for the other stuff...that's a hard situation to be in, and I feel like the mods have handled it the best they could. It's not like he got arrested for something small and petty...that's some serious shit. Personally I felt like Amir0x should've gotten the boot a hell of a long time ago, especially after I did 6-months thanks to bishop taking exception to me calling out Lime for getting increasingly unhinged after the election. 6 fucking months for that. But that's water under the bridge, I talked with Evilore about that and he's a bro. My one other ban was deserved, I went a little far with gallows humor in a sensitive topic.

Anyway yeah, whole thing's fucked up. No one wants to be in the position some people were put in this week. Justice was served and a piece of scum was finally brought into the light. I'm just glad it's known now just how bad he was.

 

[Media]

This'll leave you feeling warm:

https://twitter.com/Hopenlesmyth/status/880316858137796608

Oh God I'm tearing up. That's amazing.

 

[CyclopsRock]

Oh God I'm tearing up. That's amazing.

It gets a bit blah when all the companies turn up saying happy birthday, but it really warms the cockles of your heart!

 

[entremet]

It's a hard thing since written communication lacks the nuance of tone, body language and even humanity that real life communication has. It also short circuits our empathy circuits.

Sometimes I read my posts and I think, man, I was being a jerk. Being nice isn't just about not insulting others. That's easy. But humility goes a long a way. I've personally PMed those who I thought I went too far with.

 

[Funky Papa]

As far as GAF goes, IronGAF is legit great. People are helpful and polite as fuck. I'm pretty sure I'm the one doing all the cussing in there.

Most of TV-GAF is also very fine. As far as TV shows go, I've found that Hannibal and Orphan Black's communities are absolutely fantastic both within and away from GAF's limits. Hannibal's fandom is almost wholesome, which is bizarre when you consider the source material.

Certain communities have absolutely fantastic folks doing God's work. The DIY scene is terrific, although you may find some bizarre feuds in the RasPi and arcade restoration clans.

 

[Messofanego]

As far as GAF goes, IronGAF is legit great. People are helpful and polite as fuck. I'm pretty sure I'm the one doing all the cussing in there.

Most of TV-GAF is also very fine. As far as TV shows go, I've found that Hannibal and Orphan Black's communities are absolutely fantastic both within and away from GAF's limits. Hannibal's fandom is almost wholesome, which is bizarre when you consider the source material.

Certain communities have absolutely fantastic folks doing God's work. The DIY scene is terrific, although you may find some bizarre feuds in the RasPi and arcade restoration clans.

Wait there is an IronGAF?

I need to ask some questions.

 

[Funky Papa]

Wait there is an IronGAF?

I need to ask some questions.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1039645

 

[Spiritwalker]

There are nice people everywhere, but deplorables will always be louder. They stick out more.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

Neogaf. At least, relative to everything else.

I am also consistently impressed with how thoughtful and insightful comments on NYtimes.com are.

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

GAF is polite and calm usually, but it doesn't strike me as particularly nice. People still look to dogpile on mistakes, and most subjective opinions about trivial things like the quality of a video game or movie are dealt with in absolute terms, where you are "wrong" if you like "trash."

The only video game community that I've ever seen that was genuinely nice was Gameological, for the brief time it was run as a separate site from the AV Club. It was too small to attract much attention from the outside, but not around long enough to develop an overly insular culture.

 

[Dr_LucienSanchez]

Pretty much everyone on the AV Club comment section is pretty great.

Despite the many changes in comment systems over the years, still my favorite (sorry, neogaf).

It's not perfect though, still some crazy stuff that's happened with some people in certain tv show reviews.

 

[Lothar]

Something Awful forums are nice. Yeah, I know what you might be thinking if only saw the General Bullshit subforum, but the Games and Cinema Discussion subforums are huge, intelligent, and honestly handle disagreements a hell of a lot better than Gaf. Different subforums have different groups of posters. There's a medical help subforum where can people can ask medical questions, and joke replies aren't tolerated. You can get coding help from the coding subforum. You can get life advice from another subforum. Most of the subforums are genuinely a good place to talk or get/give help.

 

[Socreges]

Dude, four of those bans were you requesting for a ban. C'mon son.

Hah, I wasn't even counting those! Am I not at 10-12 still excluding the requested ones?

 

[smokeandmirrors]

as fucking awful as reddit is /r/wholesomememes is amazing and, well, wholesome

 

[OrionX]

Would a nice person brag about being nice? Oh well whatever I'm super nice!

I never felt very comfortable posting online, even anonymously, because people can be so hostile/hateful. Gaf is the only place I post besides the Facebook account I use about twice a year. Joined last year because it seemed like a decent place where people don't treat each other like shit... for the most part at least. lol

 

[Zelenogorsk]

If you only follow nice people on twitter it can be a safe haven against internet bullshit (and if someone is being a dick you can just unfollow them!).

Moderated communities like GAF are a godsend in today's digital age.

 

[Shadowhelper]

There's a strong interplay of causation between loneliness, frustration, anger and having too much time on your hands. It makes sense that those sorts of people would be dramatically over represented online.

 

[Oberon]

I am used to following Youtube channels with really nice comment sections for a while now, so I got comfortable checking them out and forgot about the dangers of doing that. Big mistake, I actually forgot how vile random videos comment sections are

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Well, today I learned that Amirox was arrested for child porn.

What the fuck

When the fuck did this happen?

 

[cr0w]

What the fuck

When the fuck did this happen?

Wednesday morning.

 

[Ishan]

1. words over internet lose lot of the "human touch" . gestures, body language, tone etc
2. harsh words gain more attention and more reactions
3. many ppl just stay away from toxic environments. I'd be much more willing to reach out to someone talking crap in person than i am to some random internet person. that i ignore.

 

[Ishan]

What the fuck

When the fuck did this happen?

Wednesday morning.

wait what are you serious? (thread/post/site link?)

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Wednesday morning.

Jesus Christ, I knew the guy was unstable with the whole abusing drugs thing but goddamn.

Any links to thread where it came out?

 

[cr0w]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1398718

That's the resulting thread, all details should be in there. Evilore made a statement at the end when the thread was closed.

 

[Head of Vengarl]

As far as GAF goes, IronGAF is legit great. People are helpful and polite as fuck. I'm pretty sure I'm the one doing all the cussing in there.

Most of TV-GAF is also very fine. As far as TV shows go, I've found that Hannibal and Orphan Black's communities are absolutely fantastic both within and away from GAF's limits. Hannibal's fandom is almost wholesome, which is bizarre when you consider the source material.

Certain communities have absolutely fantastic folks doing God's work. The DIY scene is terrific, although you may find some bizarre feuds in the RasPi and arcade restoration clans.

Most of the GAF gaming community OTs are great (at least the ones I've been a part of). TF2-GAF back in the day was a boisterous community full of characters

Spoiler

before they all sadly moved on to the black hole of happiness known as Dota 2

. The Xenoblade Chronicles, Dragon's Dogma, Dark Souls 3, and Steam OTs are/were full of super helpful and generous people. And then of course there's the extra wholesome (but unfortunately seldom active) Dog Age - Official Man's Best Friend Thread.

 

[cr0w]

Not sure where you're going with that, but you're welcome.

 

[Socreges]

Not sure where you're going with that, but you're welcome.

EDIT: Sorry, I'm an idiot

🤔

 

[Acorn]

Dude, four of those bans were you requesting for a ban. C'mon son.

How do you guys keep a record of bans and what they're for? Is it in the forum software or something as crazy as a gigantic spreadsheet lol?

 

[evilromero]

Reasonable or rational-minded people don't see a need to comment.

 

[Jeronimo Jones]

I first heard about what went down in this very thread yesterday, and it sounds like the mods handled it about as well as possible.

I don't understand the calls for an emergency family meeting to discuss the situation. A former mod who was stripped of the privilege years ago turned out to be into vile and illegal things, was arrested and is no longer being allowed to participate in this community after those things came to light. Good riddance.

 

[GeordieMark]

I think GAF is ok. There are plenty of nice people here, but they don't draw attention the way the not-so-nice people do. There are times when I do get sick of the snark though. Some people haven't grasped that you can be on the right side of an argument but still be a dickhead if you go about making your point in an aggressive or smart arse way. It does turn me off when we turn a blind eye to this fact.

 

[Fbh]

What 6 years of working in retail in 2 different continents have taught me is that nice people are like...at most...half of the population.

And I guess we are the half that doesn't write in comments sections and have better and more meaningful things to do than spread hate.

 

[Kanann]

BRB, looking at mirror.


Holy shit, what is that ugly monster.

 

[Speevy]

I think that in general (and this is from personal experience), there tends to develop this tightly knit group of mods who may or may not know each other in real life.

If for example a group of people know each other from a forum's inception, or they have met at a trade show or work within the industry, there's a deeper bond. This bond creates a kind of "bubble" where you're looking at the forum as this separate entity that all of your buddies have to manage.

The trouble with that scenario is the reality of the situation. People who met you at a trade show or who work for Ubisoft or whatever are just regular people. It doesn't matter that they make $100,000 a year or helped you code the site, or that you drank a beer with them in Austin, Texas one time. They're still just a bunch of 20-30 somethings that registered for a forum and got an account.

They have real lives, and life can impose quite a strain on you. I joined Teamxbox in 2001 and watched that place move from THE thriving place to discuss Xbox news to a cesspool of bots and troll posts. Over the course of my time there, I started and finished college. Then I started posting here. Over the course of my time here, I worked in retail for 10 years, went back to college and became a teacher where I am today. I didn't commit any crimes, do any drugs that weren't prescribed to me, but I did experience the very depths of depression and sadness over my life.

In my time here, I have watched people threaten suicide, confess to drug abuse, and pour their hearts out over absolutely horrible, tragic situations that affect them. There are people here I'm sure I would make friends with if I knew them, but I'm sure there are people here that I would absolutely despise if I knew them, even if we agree on message board discussions.

So I guess what I'm saying is that message board users should avoid becoming so chummy with their fellow posters that they start regarding them as real friends. They're usernames with avatars that post opinions, and those might not even be their real opinions.

What is the likelihood that among Neogaf's thousands of members, there exists at least one more person who has possession of child pornography? I'd say 100%.

Put your trust in the people you can shake hands with on a daily basis, and whose word can be tested time and time again.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Happy Feet hahahaha

And he didn't get banned because his name is slutdropper? lmao.

 

[EGOMON]

Same here OP I am always amazed by how cruel and intolerant people are nowadays, I sometimes feel so disconnected from real life.

 

[Akuun]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1398718

That's the resulting thread, all details should be in there. Evilore made a statement at the end when the thread was closed.

Thanks. I had no idea about this.

 

[Jeronimo Jones]

So I guess what I'm saying is that message board users should avoid becoming so chummy with their fellow posters that they start regarding them as real friends. They're usernames with avatars that post opinions, and those might not even be their real opinions.

I agree and had a similarly worded post that I originally scrapped...

People are capable of taking deception to extreme depths--neighbors, friends, and spouses have turned out to be killers and abusers. If you think that recognizing an avatar/user name and posting style means you actually know who's behind the persona, or believe you're just hanging out chatting with your 190K closest friends, you should wake up.

 

[cr0w]

I agree and had a similarly worded post that I originally scrapped...

People are capable of taking deception to extreme depths--neighbors, friends, and spouses have turned out to be killers and abusers. If you think that recognizing an avatar/user name and posting style means you actually know who's behind the persona, or believe you're just hanging out chatting with your 190K closest friends, you should wake up.

I know this first-hand. Some horrific shit happened with my best friend of 15 years last December, and it taught me just how little you can know someone that was closer than family to you. You really have to be careful who you give your trust to.

 

[Jeronimo Jones]

I know this first-hand. Some horrific shit happened with my best friend of 15 years last December, and it taught me just how little you can know someone that was closer than family to you. You really have to be careful who you give your trust to.

Sorry to hear that.

I'm an optimistic person but we shouldn't delude ourselves into thinking we can judge the hearts of people across the internet with any certainty when tragedy can sneak up on us right next door.

 

[King Tubby]

Why do you only ever see lunatics standing on the street with a sandwich board and megaphone?

 

[Mechazawa]

So I guess what I'm saying is that message board users should avoid becoming so chummy with their fellow posters that they start regarding them as real friends. They're usernames with avatars that post opinions, and those might not even be their real opinions.

Put your trust in the people you can shake hands with on a daily basis, and whose word can be tested time and time again.

This is an absolutely absurd line to draw.

 

[Ancient Gray]

Nope. Facebook has proven people have no problem showing their full names while being racist, sexist shitbags.

Ain't it surprising?

We just had a state college professor mouth off on Facebook about the Otto Warmbier story, comparing stealing posters to rape in order to make some floundering point about white privilege.

She was fired a day or two later.

 

[Speevy]

This is an absolutely absurd line to draw.

No, it's not. The people on this forum are not your buddies. You shouldn't suppose that they are decent people just because they appear so in their replies.

Why is that absurd?