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PS4 maintained its MSRP for an absurdly long time. It's hard to say what will happen if they feel like they can sell a decent amount of consoles and keep that $50 for themselves.They will but its strategic. Cutting it now won't make a huge impact(although they apparently did 400k IS in March) but probably around September with a promotional price in Nov/Dec. A $250 Destiny 2 bundle would do wonders in September.
PS4 will lead the pack while the rest fight for second place, nothing can stop Sony except Sony.
PS4 maintained its MSRP for an absurdly long time. It's hard to say what will happen if they feel like they can sell a decent amount of consoles and keep that $50 for themselves.
Switch will more likely eat into Xbox sells than PS4, imo. PS4 also has a killer lineup this year and has had an unprecedented start so far to where this year might be remembered along with 2004/1998. Maybe not up with them but darn close.I don't know. Zelda, Mario Kart, Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2 and ARMS is basically ringing the dinner bell for Nintendo fans and looks enticing enough for any existing PS4/Xbox owners who want a second console. I wouldn't be shocked if Switch ended up on top for 2017. That's assuming Sony doesn't go for the jugular with any type of $199 bundle.
This Friday.When to expect those earnings statement?
PS4 sales will probably peak this year.
Why do people think Switch and Scorpio are going to stall PS4 demand? The two former devices can do their own thing without impeding PS4. Especially Switch. Besides, the PS4 has a far larger market than either device and it has big software (Spider-Man, God of War) in the pipeline. That train isn't stopping.
Right, natural slowdown is fine. I'm just talking about the idea that Switch and Scorpio are going to notably harm PS4 demand.I think it's because PS4 has already captured so much of the market that is going to stall demand. Not sure if it has peaked yet but it's certainly gotta be near the top of that bell curve in sales. I mean they're probably on track for around 100 million lifetime give or take but they've already sold around 60 million of that. It's been 4 years, sales are slowing down regardless of the competition but I'm sure that doesn't help.
You know people will claim it! It's inevitable that people look at one specific piece of data and ignore the rest. Just like how people said the PS4 Slim needed saving because it wasn't #1 in the US. RoflRight, natural slowdown is fine. I'm just talking about the idea that Switch and Scorpio are going to notably harm PS4 demand.
PS4 sales will probably peak this year.
Assuming none of them are delayed, Destiny 2, RDR2, Battlefront 2 and COD:WW2 are more likely to have a larger effect on console sales.Peak without their heavy hitters?
Assuming none of them are delayed, Destiny 2, RDR2, Battlefront 2 and COD:WW2 are more likely to have a larger effect on console sales.
Scorpio have best multiplat and play anywhere; Switch have best exclusive and console on the go; Scorpio impact western market, Switch impact Japan and western market.
It's going to stall PS4 demand.
I think GT will only have an effect in Europe. I'm not sure if Spiderman will make it this year but I hope it does.There's also GT Sports and maybe Spiderman.
I'm sure it will happen again the end of this year. I think people just don't fully understand how potent Sony's worldwide market is.You know people will claim it! It's inevitable that people look at one specific piece of data and ignore the rest. Just like how people said the PS4 Slim needed saving because it wasn't #1 in the US. Rofl
I think they still have people to attract. Sony has two consoles over 100M+ and their worst console is somewhere in the upper 80M range. PS4 will join those ranks.At 60 million consoles, I usually wonder whose left?
Does Sony go after the super casual at this point? Try to convert Xbox users? PC users?
At 60 million consoles, I usually wonder whose left?
Does Sony go after the super casual at this point? Try to convert Xbox users? PC users?
Assuming none of them are delayed, Destiny 2, RDR2, Battlefront 2 and COD:WW2 are more likely to have a larger effect on console sales.
At 60 million consoles, I usually wonder whose left?
Does Sony go after the super casual at this point? Try to convert Xbox users? PC users?
If anything, that number will only increase.Are they anticipating a drop in number of plus subscribers due to a dip in quality of free games? Because they should factor that in
I think it's because PS4 has already captured so much of the market that is going to stall demand. Not sure if it has peaked yet but it's certainly gotta be near the top of that bell curve in sales. I mean they're probably on track for around 100 million lifetime give or take but they've already sold around 60 million of that. It's been 4 years, sales are slowing down regardless of the competition but I'm sure that doesn't help.
Are they anticipating a drop in number of plus subscribers due to a dip in quality of free games? Because they should factor that in
Are they anticipating a drop in number of plus subscribers due to a dip in quality of free games? Because they should factor that in
At 60 million consoles, I usually wonder whose left?
Does Sony go after the super casual at this point? Try to convert Xbox users? PC users?
I tend to agree that unless Microsoft surprises with the games at E3, the Scorpio launch may get overshadowed. Switch is going to be riding a lot of momentum heading into the holidays and that's when the Zelda expansion, Mario, and the rumored Pokemon Stars drop.It's always something with you guys. First it was bu by PS4 is sold in more markets, then titanfall, then NO KINECT, and it keeps going.
If anything Microsoft is in a world of hurt now with Nintendo bringing it. I don't care how many games they show for Scorpio, it doesn't make up for years of lacking games.
PS4 peaking? No way.
This year we saw Uncharted 4 or Horizon, but some of the biggest franchises like GT, GTA, Last of Us or God of War still have to debut with new games, and soonish we'll see other huge hits like FFVII remake, RDR2 the new AC and many others.
The console is still selling really well and is over $200, where if I don't mistake traditionally there is the typical console sales peak.
Regarding Switch and Scorpio, they won't affect PS4 sales unless sold way cheaper. Switch debuted with less than 3M which is ok, but PS4 sold 57M in a bit more than 3 years, which is insane.
Yep. Only almost a month, but more than 50M late.I mean you gotta realize that Switch did it during march.
Now that the hardware is there, it's time for software and price cuts in the coming years until they release the next generation in 2020 or so.It's in the article.
Ps4 Pro already out
Ps4 refresh already out
Ps VR already out
They want to know what the future holds for Playstation as a business and further growth opportunities
Considering PS360 sold around 180M combined, if PS4+XBO is around 90M, there should be like 70M (let's count a small percentage of people who bought both consoles or their console twice) console players who still have to jump to the next generation. Let's say PS4 can aim to get 50M additional units sold from there, since some won't upgrade or may go to XBO, PC, mobile or even Switch.At 60 million consoles, I usually wonder whose left?
Does Sony go after the super casual at this point? Try to convert Xbox users? PC users?
lol, go sit down.Are they anticipating a drop in number of plus subscribers due to a dip in quality of free games? Because they should factor that in
Yep.
A serious price drop would move an insane amount of consoles. They've been super stingy with the PS4s price this gen.
I don't know. Zelda, Mario Kart, Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2 and ARMS is basically ringing the dinner bell for Nintendo fans and looks enticing enough for any existing PS4/Xbox owners who want a second console. I wouldn't be shocked if Switch ended up on top for 2017. That's assuming Sony doesn't go for the jugular with any type of $199 bundle.
I agree. Come Sept for Destiny 2 and Call of Duty in Nov., Sony will be moving alot of PS4s for sure.huh? they're going to have to ship alot more then their forecast to even come close to the PS4 in 2017.
I think it's because PS4 has already captured so much of the market that is going to stall demand. Not sure if it has peaked yet but it's certainly gotta be near the top of that bell curve in sales. I mean they're probably on track for around 100 million lifetime give or take but they've already sold around 60 million of that. It's been 4 years, sales are slowing down regardless of the competition but I'm sure that doesn't help.
Are they anticipating a drop in number of plus subscribers due to a dip in quality of free games? Because they should factor that in
$199 bundle for Black Friday (HZD if they play it smart), and basically a huge coverage to sweep both super price sensitive families that haven't bought into next gen yet and people looking for a 2nd console.At 60 million consoles, I usually wonder whose left?
Does Sony go after the super casual at this point? Try to convert Xbox users? PC users?
Wut?Peak without their heavy hitters?
Are they anticipating a drop in number of plus subscribers due to a dip in quality of free games? Because they should factor that in
Looks like Sony hit their 20 million PS4 target for the fiscal year. That is huge
Market research company SuperData has today estimated that Sony will formally announce PS4 console sales of 60 million once the Japanese corporation releases its fiscal earnings report tomorrow