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Xbox One sells one million+ (sell through to consumers) in all territories worldwide
- Thread starter Amir0x
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By December Sony expects to sell 3 million in North America alone. It isn't farfetched that they will sell 1-2 million on Friday given that they are launching in 30 countries that day.
A couple of factors come into play here.
1) what momentum do the two consoles have? If Xbox is struggling and PS4 is flying off the shelves, then titanfall won't have a huge impact IMO - people will still want the 'hot' console.
2) what can Destiny do? If they can come out quickly, that is a damn strong mitigation for titanfall. Can't play the new hot shooter from the CoD guys? Then play the new hot shooter from the halo guys. That can take a lot of wind out of the titanfall sails
Try pre-ordering then and see what answer you get.
This. If MS stated they sold a million, and there is stock on the shelves, then they simply shipped more than a million.
The potentially worrying thing is having stock on the shelves in the US. That suggests MS didn't sell through what they were predicting to. And that number was significantly less than 1m anyway due to their need to serve 12 other markets
This is wrongheaded. I was at this exact Best Buy this morning and they were sold out for walk in customers (as was every single BB, Target, Walmart, MS store, and Game Stop in a 50 mile radius of LA... my partner and I called them all -- dozens and dozens of stores -- and finally found a cancelled preorder at a Game Stop we were able to nab).
The stack of boxes they had behind the register at the West Hollywood Best Buy were all preorders that had not been picked up yet, and which they'll hold for a week before they're released. We asked several different employees if I could get one and was denied repeatedly. They won't release unclaimed preordered units until next Friday.
Imperfected
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It makes a certain degree of sense to overstock NY and especially LA. They're the centers for "new media" (even though that shouldn't be the case because geographic location doesn't matter much for new media, but for some reason all the YouTubers move to LA anyway...) so you ensure a lot more people making productive use of the sharing functions and generating good buzz if you get more sales there.
The systems are both relying on the internet to keep the hype machine rolling post-launch, though it's going to be interesting to see how their "Share" functions impact that. The Wii got over here in America mostly because of being all over the daytime TV circuit and receiving constant reinforcement in the consumer population because of that. Comparatively speaking, the PS3 and 360 were more gamer phenomena that didn't hold the public interest for long after the dust had settled. The ease of pushing content out to social media on the PS4 and XB1 could create a much longer tail for their initial sales hype.
We haven't really seen a launch previously that could fully utilize the effects of post-YouTube/Facebook social media. This could be one wild ride.
you crashed the dreams of many here in this topic
SwiftDeath
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So 140,000 units are accounted for by the UK launch
Curious what the rest of the world's launch day numbers are like
Curious what the rest of the world's launch day numbers are like
Don't know if anyone has replied to this but I think it's to increase sales of peripherals and games. Consoles don't have much margin for retailers but accessories do and maybe Black Friday sales = more accessories sold?
Imperfected
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They only pushed 140k units to the UK market? Wut.
Microsoft, I really don't think you want that many antsy FIFA and COD players not having bought an XB1 come Friday. The UK is a place where you could have dumped a massive stock and probably sold through it entirely, but I don't think those sales are just going to wait ripe on the vine until you get around to it...
Microsoft, I really don't think you want that many antsy FIFA and COD players not having bought an XB1 come Friday. The UK is a place where you could have dumped a massive stock and probably sold through it entirely, but I don't think those sales are just going to wait ripe on the vine until you get around to it...
shinra-bansho
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I had thought NA sales were around 700K (like 650 US, 50K Can).
But that would only leave like 160K for continental Europe and other territories. :/
Canis lupus
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140k for the UK
I think 250k for the other 10 territories
So likely ~600-650k for NA?
I think 250k for the other 10 territories
So likely ~600-650k for NA?
SwiftDeath
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Hmm that would average around 18K for the remaining 9 launch territories if true
Since MS's NA includes Mexico as well
Perhaps MS is having yield issues?
theprodigy
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1/5 the population, and translating to 700k sales proportionally, but yes
SwiftDeath
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Mainly because the PS3 with its atrocious launch problems sold 165,000 units at its launch in the UK. Back when pre-ordering systems was far less common. Not to mention the fact that the PS3 was harder to produce and thus had shortages
Imperfected
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The UK is the only market where Microsoft is both launching first and had a more favorable reception coming into this. To me, it seems like an obvious place to drop a disproportionately large amount of hardware to get an early edge in public perception. It's also a place (with apologies to our UK gamers) where the ridiculous popularity of FIFA and CoD means that the new versions are likely to drive sales much more heavily than any console-specific sentiments, meaning that whoever has the most stock on shelves is likely to have the majority sales up for grabs.
I'd say they probably could have churned through a solid 300k first day sales in the UK due to launching first, but 100k of those sales are probably just going to go over to whichever unit people find on shelves first. They could be waving goodbye to them come Friday.
Melchiah
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The bolded reminds me of this.
http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/11/polygon-exposed/
PS4 No remote Capabilities? Xbox One Better Voice Recognition?:
http://youtu.be/1-IXV7SG26E
The PS4 offers voice control features as well, which seem to be working better at the moment than those of XB1.
I couldn't agree more. It makes me wonder where were all these paritymongers, when the PS3 was having hard time for strikingly similar reasons in the beginning of its life? Their absence then makes me think it's really not about the parity at all, but the fact that it's Microsoft's system that is the underdog now.
bigboss370
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that' crazy, i thought they wanted 5 mill world wide by march.
So, numbers are coming in for specific countries....140,000 - 150,000 for the UK...
When Sony launches in London....that might tell it all for the launch. MS is gonna have to have some serious games, gaming to survive this gen. Now with Elop in charge and hinting at getting rid of the XBox division....the Xbox One might become a collectors item.
Oh my.....and some ppl take some of these folks word as gospel....wow. Its amazing how some ppl try to spread falsehoods. Who were those 2 guys? Or specifically the one guy that was astronomically wrong? Ah I see it...they work for Polygon? Sad....sad
When Sony launches in London....that might tell it all for the launch. MS is gonna have to have some serious games, gaming to survive this gen. Now with Elop in charge and hinting at getting rid of the XBox division....the Xbox One might become a collectors item.
Oh my.....and some ppl take some of these folks word as gospel....wow. Its amazing how some ppl try to spread falsehoods. Who were those 2 guys? Or specifically the one guy that was astronomically wrong? Ah I see it...they work for Polygon? Sad....sad
Melchiah
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Right. Apart from that all the hype is coming from gamers & reporters that have been playing the game that has been demoed publicly since E3 (and garnered a shitton of awards). But I know, it's an exclusive for MS platforms, so that certainly doesn't count
And how many of those reporters are also talking about balance, and not seeing the difference between resolutions, while they hype the game? Point being, it seems to me that the most eager hypers are those who are invested in the platform the most.
ComputerMKII
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This guy is right.
Ehh where did you pull this bit of fiction from?
Pristine_Condition
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I would bold the whole thing if I could. Spot on.
I think some media outlets and personalities have fallen into this trap. It seems that some have disregarded their duties to their consumer audience, and have edited facts and figures to artificially create a more even race between PS4 and XBone. While some are doing it cynically to create more clicks (nobody clicks more than the fanboys,) I think others have done this because they've adopted these fake notions of competition and capitalism.
Version 3.0
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You can, and someone should. It's so well stated and 100% true. Here, I'll do it:
When will GAF ban Polygon?