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[ThatCrazyGuy]

You work for Ocean Beelzebufo? good lord, lol. Are you a corporate apologist? With that comment about if you are one of those people who believe in boycotts statement, idk.

Whatever your definition of broken is, this is a shit port. What misinformation is being shown here? Because you think it's fine, doesn't make it fine. We are happy for you, you are not seeing or don't care about the problems. Many people do.

Consumers should be doing this. Just cause it happens over there, it doesn't need to be accepted here. This product does not exist in a bubble. We know how the versions performed before it. People shouldn't close their eyes and accept. they are asking alot of people to buy the same game yet again. People should be pissed.

This thing is aimed at competitive players in a sense, with tying to tournaments and boasting about fixing lag. If they (casuals) didn't care, why would they use it as a selling point?

I don't care if others games are buggy. I care about the bugs in this game. I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone till they fix it. I would say go buy a cheap 360 if you wanna play or what for patches.

I will say people calling the devs "lazy" don't know what they are talking about. They did a bad job, but lazy is not the word to describe what has happened.

 

[riskVSreward]

If I wanted to play a game where I can lose due to potential RNG bullshit, I think maybe Mario Party works better there. At least I can get a good laugh out of it

You know I just snap all of my games in half on the occasion that I lose because of RNG. Every moment of my gaming time is of the utmost significance.

As you guys said, just because someone else experienced these problems, doesn't mean either of you are fated to, evidently since neither of you have so far. On the other hand, just because you haven't encountered these problems yourself doesn't mean others won't, and it doesn't sound like the folks reporting these problems did anything esoteric in order to make the game break itself.

Yup, people are expressing their personal experiences with the game. Not all of them are the same.

Did previous versions of SF4 have disappearing projectiles and moves not connecting when they should? No? I want to play the standard, the version that's fun and also working as intended.

This literally doesn't address what I was saying at all. Your boy's definition of "broken" was stupid.

 

[chronosic]

I'm on round 2 of trying to get this game refunded through Sony's chat. The reps are the absolute goddamn worst. They gave me the runaround TWICE by switching reps mid chat and forcing me to re-explain the situation.

Seriously, why is this so goddamn hard to understand? The game is basically unplayable and was sold under false advertising.

Well at least you didn't get disconnected yet!

 

[Takamura-San]

The amount of glitches in the game (and their frequency) have been exaggerated. Using tne words "absolute garbage" to explain the failure to correct PS3's latency errors, that kind of stuff. I mean just look at some of the responses you get when you say this game is perfectly enjoyable for people who haven't been playing USF4 religiously already.

1. The amount of glitches are as consistent as the game demands. If Evil Ryu combo is broken, then that character is broken to the user, Brokenness is not just defined by the visual glitches of the game, but how it derives from the norm.
2. The latency error is unacceptable, it completely throws off timing. There's a reason why PS3 is not used in tournaments. This was claimed by Sony to be addressed. It wasn't.
3. You can still enjoy playing hoops with the square ball. Don't get upset when people tell you what you are doing.

 

[call_kotaku]

That's a bolder assumption than any I've made. It's just as likely that they reaized they weren't going to make the deadline and shifted all focus onto making the gameplay as accurate as they could. That's why every bug other than a few moves and a supposed input delay is merely cosmetic.

Considering the history of the developers there's no possible way Sony could've assumed Other Ocean is capable of making the "definitive" version of the game, outside of gross incompetence. Unless we're assuming Sony doesn't even bother to do a google search before handing out contracts, the other alternative is that Sony went cheap and got what they paid for. If they didn't care enough about this to do the bare minimum of paying for a competent dev, I don't feel comfortable assuming they'll care enough to fix the myriad of problems with game (at possibly great expense).

Moves behaving strangely and on an inconsistent basis means there's more to this than poor optimization and it means the bugs are anything but minor. It also means that there are probably a ton of unexplained behaviors that haven't been discovered after 2 days.

I would argue it's more irresponsible to scare off someone from a game they might enjoy just because you're unhappy with it personally. There's a lot of misinformation about how bad the port is in this thread.

Since there are tons of people struggling with getting refunds and generally being extremely unhappy with their purchases, and 25 dollars is actually a decent chunk of money, I'd err on the side of caution.

 

[bender]

Sounds like you're out of luck unfortunately and have to chalk it up to a lesson learned. I want a refund too, but it's a dead-end. Just have to think twice next time about spending your money with them.

I guess I was lucky with getting a refund via chat. I just explained the issues, followed their troubleshooting steps, and got a case number to follow-up once I had deleted, re-indexed, re-downloaded the software. The second support person I spoke to wanted me to try some additional network troubleshooting steps but I politely declined and asked for a refund. Maybe it's because it's my first interaction with support and I've been using the service since day one.

We should band together and get a twitter campaign going or something.

 

[riskVSreward]

Did I ever say that it couldn't be patched? I said that the main issue with this is that the problems likely run so deep that by time it's fixed, it'll be past the point of relevancy.
Also, previous iterations didn't have nearly the same amount and types of issues that this port has.

All we can do is wait and see how the patches bare out. You still have no justification for thinking that they can't be fixed by the point of relevancy. How long is the point of relevancy anyway?

 

[vg260]

Several people have managed to get refunds, don't give up.

I chatted once and made a point to be extremely courteous and reasonable when presenting the case, because it goes a long way, but was denied. I know how things work in these types of support situations, and when to push and when to give up. For the price of the game it's not worth pushing and dealing with someone who could possibly put a spot on my record should a much bigger issue arise. I'm bothered out of principle mostly, but I should have seen the writing on the wall or waited a few more hours for reports. I'll just hope it gets patched to a reasonable performance and keep it on my HD for when I want to pop it up and play a match or two, but any moderate length sessions I'll play on PC.

I'm just mostly disappointed because I fear it will have a major impact on the online player base. Buy hey, maybe they'll give it away eventually on Plus if sales bomb, and people will have shelved their 360s and PS3 by then.

 

[Beelzebufo]

You work for Ocean Beelzebufo? good lord, lol. Are you a corporate apologist? With that comment about if you are one of those people who believe in boycotts statement, idk.

Whatever your definition of broken is, this is a shit port. What misinformation is being shown here? Because you think it's fine, doesn't make it fine. We are happy for you, you are not seeing or don't care about the problems. Many people do.

Consumers should be doing this. Just cause it happens over there, it doesn't need to be accepted here. This product does not exist in a bubble. We know how the versions performed before it. People shouldn't close their eyes and accept. they are asking alot of people to buy the same game yet again. People should be pissed.

This thing is aimed at competitive players in a sense, with tying to tournaments and boasting about fixing lag. If they didn't care, why would they use it as a selling point?

I don't care if others games are buggy. I care about the bugs in this game. I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone till they fix it. I would say go buy a cheap 360 if you wanna play or what for patches.

I will say people calling the devs "lazy" don't know what they are talking about. They did a bad job, but lazy is not the word to describe what has happened.

You're actually recommending someone go out and by a new console and a more expensive version of the game (which will become worthless once PS4 is patched?). Do you work for Microsoft? lol

The port really isn't that bad. It's easily the worst version of the game available, but by no means is it bad enough that it should keep you from buying it if you've been looking forward to playing Ultra Street Fighter 4, and you only have a PS4. I was annoyed that I saw people missing out on the fun experience I'm having because they were misled by people saying things like "projectiles go invisible" and "characters moves freeze the game" without also pointing out how almost nobody experiences these problems.

What's the point of waiting a few months for the patch to buy it instead of buying it now? It's only $25, and you'll enjoy it in the mean time.

 

[Seven Force]

I don't know what's weirder, defending the PS4 port in it's current state or recommending the PSNow version in general.

Everybody may not be getting the same bugs, and some cases may be entirely situational, but if you have to play a game with the thought of "Gee, hope hope I don't run into that potentially game breaking glitch among others!" something is very, very wrong there.

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

Right, which is much better than telling them to not buy anything at all if PS4 is the only version available to them.

How about advising people to wait for things to be fixed and not waste there money on a poorly optimised port of a last gen game on a modern console? I have no way to play DMC3 right now, I love DMC3, I'm still not going to buy the PC version because I have standards and don't want to support poor industry practices.

I find advising people to buy substandard titles to be ridiculous and in doing so you're only encouraging publishers/developers to do half assed jobs and screw customers over.

You're actually recommending someone go out and by a new console and a more expensive version of the game (which will become worthless once PS4 is patched?). Do you work for Microsoft? lol

Yeah, I think you're in a real good position to jokingly accuse others of working for publishers right now.

 

[Skilletor]

You're actually recommending someone go out and by a new console and a more expensive version of the game (which will become worthless once PS4 is patched?). Do you work for Microsoft? lol

The port really isn't that bad. It's easily the worst version of the game available, but by no means is it bad enough that it should keep you from buying it if you've been looking forward to playing Ultra Street Fighter 4, and you only have a PS4. I was annoyed that I saw people missing out on the fun experience I'm having because they were misled by people saying things like "projectiles go invisible" and "characters moves freeze the game" without also pointing out how almost nobody experiences these problems.

Oh, shit, my other versions of SF4 explode when (IF) the PS4 version is patched?

You can have fun playing the worst version of the game available, with all of the bugs and bullshit therein, doesn't mean people should recommend the worst version available when there are far better alternatives than this.

 

[direct_quote]

You're actually recommending someone go out and by a new console and a more expensive version of the game (which will become worthless once PS4 is patched?). Do you work for Microsoft? lol

The port really isn't that bad. It's easily the worst version of the game available, but by no means is it bad enough that it should keep you from buying it if you've been looking forward to playing Ultra Street Fighter 4, and you only have a PS4. I was annoyed that I saw people missing out on the fun experience I'm having because they were misled by people saying things like "projectiles go invisible" and "characters moves freeze the game" without also pointing out how almost nobody experiences these problems.

It's bad relative to every other port of SF4, and seeing that Capcom has gotten every other version good with minimal errors, we should expect this version to be up to par.

 

[abstract alien]

Has anyone successfully gotten a refund from this situation?

Also, don't put the console in rest mode while under network battle(akuma in the background). It can lock the console and force you to power down. It's happened to me twice.

Don't need anyone screwing up anything.

 

[Korezo]

Even though this game is busted compared to other versions, still top 3 ps4 game out right now.

 

[riskVSreward]

I chatted once and made a point to be extremely courteous and reasonable when presenting the case, because it goes a long way, but was denied. I know how things work in these types of support situations, and when to push and when to give up. For the price of the game it's not worth pushing and dealing with someone who could possibly put a spot on my record should a much bigger issue arise. I'm bothered out of principle mostly, but I should have seen the writing on the wall or waited a few more hours for reports. I'll just hope it gets patched to a reasonable performance and keep it on my HD for when I want to pop it up and play a match or two, but any moderate length sessions I'll play on PC.

I'm just mostly disappointed because I fear it will have a major impact on the online player base. Buy hey, maybe they'll give it away eventually on Plus if sales bomb, and people will have shelved their 360s and PS3 by then.

I understand exactly, I had to go through a huge Customer Service ordeal with the RRODs last gen. Sometimes, you hold dat L because you don't want them to leave marks on your record and then future employees are just endlessly transferring you or some shit...

I fear the ramifications of this on the player base as well, that's why I'm choosing to promote optimism AT LEAST until the patches start come out. We have to wait and see.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Even though this game is busted compared to other versions, still top 3 ps4 game out right now.

Seriously, it's a great game

Oh, shit, my other versions of SF4 explode when (IF) the PS4 version is patched?

You can have fun playing the worst version of the game available, with all of the bugs and bullshit therein, doesn't mean people should recommend the worst version available when there are far better alternatives than this.

Err... I don't think you read my post all the way through.

 

[therapist]

its kinda sad how bad this port is seems to be - considering how many freaking times this game has been re-released / ported etc.

Im sure some of it is out of the ordinary and exaggerated , but i mean the videos dont lie - those are some strange glitches.

Im sure it will be patched shortly but its fucking sad that they would release this game , like this , considering how many times its been freaking ported.

 

[CoconutTank]

We're talking about 1 game in potentially hundreds haha. If it bothers you that much, then I guess that's fine.

Sorry, I guess I have certain expectations for the experience I would get from Street Fighter, given what I played before and what I've learned and watched from others.

You know I just snap all of my games in half on the occasion that I lose because of RNG. Every moment of my gaming time is of the utmost significance.

Yup, people are expressing their personal experiences with the game. Not all of them are the same.
This literally doesn't address what I was saying at all. Your boy's definition of "broken" was stupid.

Hey dude I don't want you to get the wrong idea. I do get bothered by randomness but that doesn't stop me from enjoying a game when I understand that it's part of the experience. Poker is fun! Mah Jong is fun! Facing a Phantom Assassin with Coup De Grace can have lots of tension!

But Street Fighter with glitches (or weirdly inconsistent glitches) isn't the experience that I'm looking for. I bet that's not the experience other players want, nor does Capcom/Sony intend to deliver.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

All we can do is wait and see how the patches bare out. You still have no justification for thinking that they can't be fixed by the point of relevancy. How long is the point of relevancy anyway?

I think I do have some justification considering OO are the ones working on the patches and they couldn't even port the game right. Capcom also stated that CPT events can use whatever version they want now .I doubt the issues will be fixed in a timely manner. A large amount of the SF4 player-base has already written off this port. A large amount of players all over twitter, reddit, gamefaqs, here, etc. have already gave this port the blow up and have gone back to the previous version they were using. Maybe if they can fix this quickly, people might decide to play this version but even then I doubt people are even gonna trust it enough to give it a chance.

 

[riskVSreward]

Sorry, I guess I have certain expectations for the experience I would get from Street Fighter, given what I played before and what I've learned and watched from others.


Hey dude I don't want you to get the wrong idea. I do get bothered by randomness but that doesn't stop me from enjoying a game when I understand that it's part of the experience. Poker is fun! Mah Jong is fun! Facing a Phantom Assassin with Coup De Grace can have lots of tension!

But Street Fighter with glitches (or weirdly inconsistent glitches) isn't the experience that I'm looking for. I bet that's not the experience other players want, nor does Capcom/Sony intend to deliver.

Glitches helped define the entire genre, they aren't a defacto bad thing. You're just concerned that it doesn't reach parity with the previous versions, and that's fair, but it's also fair to assume they strive to reach parity by patching the game.

My position has been this whole time that people are blowing this up into a WAY bigger deal than it is. Assuming nothing will be patched. Assuming Sony is just gonna make us hold it.

 

[vg260]

I think I do have some justification considering OO are the ones working on the patches and they couldn't even port the game right. Capcom also stated that CPT events can use whatever version they want now .I doubt the issues will be fixed in a timely manner. A large amount of the SF4 player-base has already written off this port. A large amount of players all over twitter, reddit, gamefaqs, here, etc. have already gave this port the blow up and have gone back to the previous version they were using. Maybe if they can fix this quickly, people might decide to play this version but even then I doubt people are even gonna trust it enough to give it a chance.

Yeah, similarly, I still see people saying how the PC version is broken due to netcode, when Capcom and Valve actually worked together to get fixes to the P2P network APIs integrated into the Steam client. It just took some time, and it's probably the best version now, but still gets badmouthed.

 

[Beelzebufo]

I think I do have some justification considering OO are the ones working on the patches and they couldn't even port the game right. Capcom also stated that CPT events can use whatever version they want now .I doubt the issues will be fixed in a timely manner. A large amount of the SF4 player-base has already written off this port. A large amount of players all over twitter, reddit, gamefaqs, here, etc. have already gave this port the blow up and have gone back to the previous version they were using. Maybe if they can fix this quickly, people might decide to play this version but even then I doubt people are even gonna trust it enough to give it a chance.

People still play PS3 USF4 despite the crippling latency issues. Hell, people still play MKX PC, and that game was actually nonfunctional for a while. The game is really cheap on the biggest home console, I think it'll do fine enough to survive until the patches haha.

So if they patch it to levels that are on par to 360, it's already too late? Then congratulations on doing your part to scare off as many new players as possible over the most trivial bugs to anyone who isn't considering playing tournaments. The FGC cannibalized itself once before, I hope you're hungry bruh.

I think you put this into words better than I've been trying to, thanks

It's like some weird form of elitism. I don't know if it's intentional but it's bugging me.

 

[riskVSreward]

I think I do have some justification considering OO are the ones working on the patches and they couldn't even port the game right. Capcom also stated that CPT events can use whatever version they want now .I doubt the issues will be fixed in a timely manner. A large amount of the SF4 player-base has already written off this port. A large amount of players all over twitter, reddit, gamefaqs, here, etc. have already gave this port the blow up and have gone back to the previous version they were using. Maybe if they can fix this quickly, people might decide to play this version but even then I doubt people are even gonna trust it enough to give it a chance.

So if they patch it to levels that are on par to 360, it's already too late? Then congratulations on doing your part to scare off as many new players as possible over the most trivial bugs to anyone who isn't considering playing tournaments. The FGC cannibalized itself once before, I hope you're hungry bruh.

SFA2 was ported to PS1, Saturn and SNES, maybe some other things. All of the tournament players found inconsistencies with the arcade version and therefore decided to run tournaments with the arcade board. If you wanted to play in the tournament, but didn't have access to the arcade board, you might have to hold it because 1 frame is moved here or there. It didn't mean you tarred and feathered anyone who said "you know this version is alright enough for someone who wants to play on X system".

 

[call_kotaku]

So if they patch it to levels that are on par to 360, it's already too late? Then congratulations on doing your part to scare off as many new players as possible over the most trivial bugs to anyone who isn't considering playing tournaments. The FGC cannibalized itself once before, I hope you're hungry bruh.

Yes, it's the FGC's fault, of course

Halo fans should feel sorry for ruining MCC too

 

[riskVSreward]

Yes, it's the FGC's fault, of course

Halo fans should feel sorry for ruining MCC too

Yup, if only you could've had a little more composure over a $25 port of SF4.

Master Chief was fucked for like 6 months, it's been 2 days. You can just take that line of rhetoric back to your ass.

 

[FSLink]

Glitches helped define the entire genre, they aren't a defacto bad thing. You're just concerned that it doesn't reach parity with the previous versions, and that's fair, but it's also fair to assume they strive to reach parity by patching the game.

My position has been this whole time that people are blowing this up into a WAY bigger deal than it is. Assuming nothing will be patched. Assuming Sony is just gonna make us hold it.

If you mean combos, no, that was intentional. A byproduct of them messing with code, but they left it in intentionally.



If anybody's been looking to play USF4, they should absolutely grab it for something else. Recommending this port is irresponsible just due to the issues, and the fact that the developer hasn't proven to be competent (yet?). Maybe the issues aren't frequent, but I'd still recommend somebody grab it on something else, shoot, the PC version doesn't even require that much for specs.

So if they patch it to levels that are on par to 360, it's already too late? Then congratulations on doing your part to scare off as many new players as possible over the most trivial bugs to anyone who isn't considering playing tournaments. The FGC cannibalized itself once before, I hope you're hungry bruh.

SFA2 was ported to PS1, Saturn and SNES, maybe some other things. All of the tournament players found inconsistencies with the arcade version and therefore decided to run tournaments with the arcade board. If you wanted to play in the tournament, but didn't have access to the arcade board, you might have to hold it because 1 frame is moved here or there. It didn't mean you tarred and feathered anyone who said "you know this version is alright enough for someone who wants to play on X system".

This is a silly piece of rhetoric since people who don't care about the issues will buy it anyway, but that doesn't mean they should. If someone had a PS4 and a 360 and bought USF4 for PS4, they're getting a worse version of the game, period. I'd still recommend anybody just wanting it for PS4 to wait.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Yes, it's the FGC's fault, of course

Halo fans should feel sorry for ruining MCC too

Didn't MCC actually not work though?

 

[Imm0rt4l]

And....this thread is now insufferable

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Yeah, similarly, I still see people saying how the PC version is broken due to netcode, when Capcom and Valve actually worked together to get fixes to the P2P network APIs integrated into the Steam client. It just took some time, and it's probably the best version now, but still gets badmouthed.

Exactly. PC version's online issues took a while to fix but its great now and some people still think it's broken and garbage.

People still play PS3 USF4 despite the crippling latency issues. Hell, people still play MKX PC, and that game was actually nonfunctional for a while. The game is really cheap on the biggest home console, I think it'll do fine enough to survive until the patches haha.

And what happens when it gets the patches? The competitive community comes back to it? I doubt it. And it's ironic because that was the whole purpose of this version. To be the new tournament standard.

So if they patch it to levels that are on par to 360, it's already too late? Then congratulations on doing your part to scare off as many new players as possible over the most trivial bugs to anyone who isn't considering playing tournaments. The FGC cannibalized itself once before, I hope you're hungry bruh.

Even if it gets patched, there really isn't a reason for the competitive community to use it. Issues may still be present and the way to get ps3 sticks working for two players is a nightmare
I'm just about done arguing because no matter what I say, people are gonna sit here and actually defend a shit port and a case of a company clearly not giving a shit.

 

[riskVSreward]

Didn't MCC actually not work though?

The analogy is awful. It fails in so many ways.

 

[riskVSreward]

Exactly. PC version's online issues took a while to fix but its great now and somebody still think it's broken and garbage.

And what happens when it gets the patches? The competitive community comes back to it? I doubt it. And it's ironic because that was the whole purpose of this version. To be the new tournament standard.

Even if it gets patched, there really isn't a reason for the competitive community to use it. Issues may still be present and the way to get ps3 sticks working for two players is a nightmare

I want to know why you think the competitive community get's to shit all over everyone who disagrees instead of just running their preferred versions and being done with it.

 

[def sim]

MCC generally worked offline. I'm sure someone can apologize for that version hella well if they tried hard enough.

Anyway, SF4 is a fighting game in its twilight years with SFV coming next year. There's no reason for the community, that's still playing it to this day, to wait for the PS4 version to get fixed.

 

[thesolidshark]

After following how bad this version has ended up being, I'm curious. Even though this might be the biggest publically-panned Street Fighter release or port now, for the amount of problems it's had, has another SF game done worse upon release in terms of stability/bugs/etc.?

 

[Uraizen]

Can we just agree that it does need to be fixed and we shouldn't just accept it in its current state? Especially when they promised us it would be better.

 

[riskVSreward]

This is a silly piece of rhetoric since people who don't care about the issues will buy it anyway, but that doesn't mean they should. If someone had a PS4 and a 360 and bought USF4 for PS4, they're getting a worse version of the game, period. I'd still recommend anybody just wanting it for PS4 to wait.

It's not silly at all. I agree that people should wait and seek refunds if they so choose. The difference between me and most everyone else is that I think they just might patch this up in a timely fashion and reach parity with the golden-boy standard 360 version.

After following how bad this version has ended up being, I'm curious. Even though this might be the biggest publically-panned Street Fighter release or port now, for the amount of problems it's had, has another SF game done worse upon release?

People should have been in a fucking uproar over SFA2 on SNES using the justifications in this thread, and that had NO chance of being patched.

 

[ajb1888]

I wish we could stop arguing with each other.
Everyone please just make their own decision on when/if you ever purchase. I made mine. Lets not tear each other down. Everyone loves this game, and are on the same side in that sense. :/

Lets focus on the devs responsible for what is currently on PS4 and keep pressing them to fix it.

 

[Papercuts]

The analogy is awful. It fails in so many ways.

Eh. I had MCC day one and even if I would NEVER defend the state it launched in, I was still able to play through the campaigns. So sorta like:

Try me.

This game is worth $25 to anyone who wants to play SF4 on their PS4 without holding it to the standard of alternate versions.

Go.

I think you could form a similar argument that it was still...okay to just play through, the MP side was where most of the issues where. Either way customers should err on the side of caution imo and not support stuff in a "we'll fix it" state since we have no idea if the 2 days here will turn into the multiple month mess MCC dealt with.

 

[Sangetsu-II]

I don't know what's weirder, defending the PS4 port in it's current state or recommending the PSNow version in general.

I actually enjoy the PS Now version of SFIV and believe it has less input lag than PS4 version, so don't just pretend PS Now version is bad too.

 

[mullet2000]

In general MCC and USF4 are very different situations.

MCC "didn't work" because of awful connectivity issues. The game itself functioned as it should when actually played, though.

USF4 is messed up at its core, but you have access to all of the content without issue.

They aren't comparable, really. It's pretty debatable which is actually better/worse.

 

[vg260]

And what happens when it gets the patches? The competitive community comes back to it? I doubt it. And it's ironic because that was the whole purpose of this version. To be the new tournament standard.

I guess moving to PS4 could happen out of convenience as almost every fighter's new iteration goes to PS4 (primarily) and XO, and not many games being played are left on 360/PS3. But I guess there will always be 360s around due to Marvel.

 

[Beelzebufo]

After following how bad this version has ended up being, I'm curious. Even though this might be the biggest publically-panned Street Fighter release or port now, for the amount of problems it's had, has another SF game done worse upon release?

Do we have sales data yet?

Exactly. PC version's online issues took a while to fix but its great now and some people still think it's broken and garbage.

And what happens when it gets the patches? The competitive community comes back to it? I doubt it. And it's ironic because that was the whole purpose of this version. To be the new tournament standard.

Even if it gets patched, there really isn't a reason for the competitive community to use it. Issues may still be present and the way to get ps3 sticks working for two players is a nightmare
I'm just about done arguing because no matter what I say, people are gonna sit here and actually defend a shit port and a case of a company clearly not giving a shit.

I mean I'd think PS4 would be worth running in the future (post patches) if only because people would need PS4 sticks for 5 anyway. But I don't really care about the competitive community, the game will have a community online without them is my point

 

[call_kotaku]

Yup, if only you could've had a little more composure over a $25 port of SF4.

Master Chief was fucked for like 6 months, it's been 2 days. You can just take that line of rhetoric back to your ass.

You're blaming fans for being angry that a game doesn't work as advertised, and being mad that people aren't giving a developer the benefit of the doubt when they demonstrate both gross incompetence and gross negligence.

Your argument is basically that it's the FGC's fault that they aren't enjoying the game, and that if I expect a game to work on launch it's my fault for having unreasonable expectations

It's not silly at all. I agree that people should wait and seek refunds if they so choose. The difference between me and most everyone else is that I think they just might patch this up in a timely fashion and reach parity with the golden-boy standard 360 version.

Then tell people to wait for the patch

 

[TONX]

Did anyone mention yet that the Trophies still say SUPER Street Fighter IV instead of ULTRA?

Kinda telling how badly this port was handled.

 

[Seven Force]

I actually enjoy the PS Now version of SFIV and believe it has less input lag than PS4 version, so don't just pretend PS Now version is bad too.

Not trying to shit on it, but the PS3 version's input lag on top of the input lag inherent to streaming games isn't exactly an ideal setup in my opinion.

Still, it at least functions as intended, so it has that over the PS4 port, at the very least.

 

[Beelzebufo]

You're blaming fans for being angry that a game doesn't work as advertised, and being mad that people aren't giving a developer the benefit of the doubt when they demonstrate both gross incompetence and gross negligence.

Your argument is basically that it's the FGC's fault that they aren't enjoying the game, and that if I expect a game to work on launch it's my fault for having unreasonable expectations

Then tell people to wait for the patch

Why wait to play the game when you can just get it now and wait still? Literally nothing is accomplished by waiting except that you have nothing to play in the mean time.

Did anyone mention yet that the Trophies still say SUPER Street Fighter IV instead of ULTRA?

Kinda telling how badly this port was handled.

My favorite is that there are options in the Player Data for "SSF4 Ranked Wins" and "AE Ranked Wins". All 0s haha

 

[call_kotaku]

Why wait to play the game when you can just get it now and wait still? Literally nothing is accomplished by waiting except that you have nothing to play in the mean time.

I save 25 dollars?

I don't get what you're trying to say

 

[mullet2000]

Did anyone mention yet that the Trophies still say SUPER Street Fighter IV instead of ULTRA?

Kinda telling how badly this port was handled.

Yeah, it's pretty lazy. They just took the exact same trophy list over from PS3.

Could have at least renamed it Ultra and just integrated the Arcade Edition/Ultra trophies that were DLC into the normal list.

 

[Beelzebufo]

I save 25 dollars?

I don't get what you're trying to say

Are you so tight on money that you can't afford to be without your 25 dollars until the patch comes out? You'd still have something to play in the mean time. People don't seem to care much about money considering they're suggesting buying 360s haha

 

[Sixfortyfive]

It's just as likely that they reaized they weren't going to make the deadline and shifted all focus onto making the gameplay as accurate as they could. That's why every bug other than a few moves and a supposed input delay is merely cosmetic.

Just "a few moves"?

- Projectiles can turn invisible.
- Multi-hitting moves (Honda hand-slap, Chun bird kick, Gen hands, etc.) don't function properly.
- Moves that are supposed to suck the opponent in (Rufus tornado & ultra 2) don't do so properly.
- Some move animations (Decapre teleport) are bugged and inaccurate.
- FADC combos can just clip and teleport through the opponent altogether.

And that's just from a cursory glance at impressions from a handful of players. Who knows what else is broken under the surface. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that every single character has something fundamentally wrong with them.

Stop rewarding failure.

And....this thread is now insufferable

Yup.