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TITANFALL 2 Reviews Thread
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So, an elite controller isn't cheating.
And a SCUF controller isn't cheating.
But this officially licensed peripheral is?
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/accessories/tac-pro-for-playstation-4/
And a SCUF controller isn't cheating.
But this officially licensed peripheral is?
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/accessories/tac-pro-for-playstation-4/
So, an elite controller isn't cheating.
And a SCUF controller isn't cheating.
But this officially licensed peripheral is?
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/accessories/tac-pro-for-playstation-4/
Yes.
Paddles don't let anyone do what I can't with clawing or using bumper jumper
So, an elite controller isn't cheating.
And a SCUF controller isn't cheating.
But this officially licensed peripheral is?
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/accessories/tac-pro-for-playstation-4/
If using a licensed keyboard and mouse peripheral in a shooter is cheating then using a fight stick in SFV is cheating.
Time to link two of my favorite articles again:
http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub
But why?
It's the same price as an elite controller, it's officially licensed by Sony, and anyone can go buy it.
I can't see the mouse emulating a right joystick to be a good way to play a shooterSo, an elite controller isn't cheating.
And a SCUF controller isn't cheating.
But this officially licensed peripheral is?
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/accessories/tac-pro-for-playstation-4/
TheCanisDirus
Member
So, an elite controller isn't cheating.
And a SCUF controller isn't cheating.
But this officially licensed peripheral is?
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/accessories/tac-pro-for-playstation-4/
Sure is if the developer hasn't explicitly allowed for mouse input. Simple as that. Mouse aiming offers MUCH more speed, precision and control over analog controllers. It's not even close.
If Respawn specifically designs KB+M schemes and curves etc for their game and wants the KB+M users to be paired with normal control users then it's not cheating. If a workaround is used or it default works but not as allowed or designed by the developers etc. it's cheating. Simple as that. The physical hardware in and of itself does not constitute cheating.
That might be official hardware but is officially allowed and supported in every PS4 game? I dont think so. A Scuf/Elite controller is a poor comparison as it's still an analog based controller. We can remap those to whatever we which on both consoles as allowed by the console manufacturers and reap the "paddle" rewards with bumper-jumper type layouts. Sorry.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Stop.
Anyways looks like a ton of people uninstalled titanfall. I haven't seen the population this low for the game ever at this time of day.
You can use the Elite with PS4 but since all your friends are on XBox I see no reason to get it on PS4 (when MP is important to you).
mysocksarepink
Banned
chances are servers will go live when they go live in NZ so we should be good. Otherwise, play campaign Thursday.
95% of people using KB/M on consoles are doing it because they get an unfair advantage. The other 5% argue they use it because 'they want to play console exclusives or it's where their friends play' and they only feel comfortable with KB/M.
To the 95% I say go to PC. And if you don't, it's because you want an unfair advantage, so you are cheating.
To the 5% I say learn to use a controller like everyone else that's playing, because whether you like it or not you are getting an unfair advantage.
To the 95% I say go to PC. And if you don't, it's because you want an unfair advantage, so you are cheating.
To the 5% I say learn to use a controller like everyone else that's playing, because whether you like it or not you are getting an unfair advantage.
cheat /CHēt/ verb - 1. act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game
So how is using a peripheral licensed by the console manufacturer that anyone can buy dishonest or unfair?
Now we have another one. :3
OdysseusVA
Banned
So the same as those who purchase Elite or custom controllers, fight sticks, racing wheels, and several other peripherals that are made to provide a competitive advantage.
I was merely pointing out that admitting something is an unfair advantage is the very definition of cheating.
Broadbandito
Member
people considered controller with aim assist on R1 to be an unfair advantage. We better block all the controllers on the PC now.
Racing wheels is a shit example because the games that allow them have specific configurations for them to work.
Fightsticks allow you to do nothing that you couldn't do on a controller. We have examples of pad users and stick users performing at a very high and equal level with regard to execution.
Say that about mouse input in console shooters. And where it was allowed, it was shown to be completely fucking unfair, with Quake III Arena.
But you know... Can we take this discussion elsewhere? This is the review thread. I'd love to further prove why XIM users are scum if you like.
I'm usually not one for false equivalence but... when you can literally buy cheats with microtransactions...
P.S. I don't want to have the conversation about how XIM != real mouse input.
OdysseusVA
Banned
What am I seeing here?
He has extra wires going to where some button inputs would be, so he can add paddles w/e to perform those same inputs.
Broadbandito
Member
HEY GUYS!
Titanfall 2 comes out Friday! It's getting great reviews! I am the hype!
Titanfall 2 comes out Friday! It's getting great reviews! I am the hype!
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
Post conventional cheating is one of the most lol worthy things I have ever read on gaf.
OdysseusVA
Banned
I heard its an alright game.
Yeah, I scratched my head at that.
edit: see i just found out that the top leaderboard for Doom Arcade Mode is a XIM4 user. barfff
OdysseusVA
Banned
This is what I get for trying to expand my vocabulary.
RichiRamjag
Member
They got sick of you cheating with that elite of yours. 😛
barneystuta83
Member
TimeEffect
Member
Any map runthroughs yet? I need to see that nice jungle map
Hellshingu
Member
Green Yoshi
Member
Terrible release date in my opinion.
Spoke with some games dealers and pre-orders are shockingly low. :-(
Spoke with some games dealers and pre-orders are shockingly low. :-(
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Easy Allies 4/5 (amazing)
Garrett Hawke
Member
Played some more of the campaign this evening, it really is great. I'm so impressed, the tech test really put me off but I'm glad they listened to feedback about the movement as the design of the levels in the campaign is really great. The weapons also feel really visceral, and I love the dynamic between Cooper and BT. Honestly such a surprise.
Can't wait to dive into the MP when the servers go up
Can't wait to dive into the MP when the servers go up
It really was a half ass theme.
Played some more of the campaign this evening, it really is great. I'm so impressed, the tech test really put me off but I'm glad they listened to feedback about the movement as the design of the levels in the campaign is really great. The weapons also feel really visceral, and I love the dynamic between Cooper and BT. Honestly such a surprise.
Can't wait to dive into the MP when the servers go up
Is there any consequence between the dialogue options, or do they change nothing?
Garrett Hawke
Member
They don't seem to so far. They just change what dialogue you hear. My only gripe is that some of them are sort of one liners that don't go anywhere and allow you to press the other option after and some of them just progress things and it's not always clear which
They don't seem to so far. They just change what dialogue you hear. My only gripe is that some of them are sort of one liners that don't go anywhere and allow you to press the other option after and some of them just progress things and it's not always clear which
thanks again. i can't wait
Garrett Hawke
Member
No problem! I just really am so impressed. The campaign is so much fun, and this is coming from someone who thought TF2 didn't even need one.
Bumblebeetuna
Banned
Knocked out two stars on about 9 Frontier maps today to wrap up the last TF1 achievement. 2000/2000! Feels Goodman.
FD can actually be really entertaining with a good team. And I love how specific maps have different challenges. Like Rise, you only get two waves, one of which only has 2 spectres, but the second wave has like 240 enemies and is a nightmare.
FD can actually be really entertaining with a good team. And I love how specific maps have different challenges. Like Rise, you only get two waves, one of which only has 2 spectres, but the second wave has like 240 enemies and is a nightmare.