Merline
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Man, these shills are desperate to see Sony repeat every single mistake Microsoft made.
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Sony hikes up PS5 pricing in April: PS5 – $649.99, PS5 Digital Edition – $599.99 PS5 Pro – $899.99, Portal $249.99
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Man, these shills are desperate to see Sony repeat every single mistake Microsoft made.
Go_Ly_Dow
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Not so sure about that. The PS4 didn't get a new GTA entry whilst the PS5 will very shortly.
GTA6 is definitely a system seller.
BlueManifest
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Has a good point, if ps6 is 900 there's not going to be much audience to buy their games that cost 100+ million to develop
Man, these shills are desperate to see Sony repeat every single mistake Microsoft made.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
True but the barrier for entry just got a lot higher, and the rumored $100 price point on GTA6 wouldn't help the situation either.
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MisterXDTV
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That's why they will never release it at that price, no matter how long they have to delay it......
asdasdasdbb
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If anything, they may as well go ahead with it. But continue to push the PS5 as well.
DeepEnigma
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Keep the script moving,
Man, these shills are desperate to see Sony repeat every single mistake Microsoft made.
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mrqs
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That's why the PS5 will get the same games, as always. It will be a hardware jump for enthusiasts.
BlueManifest
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Or they just make ps6 more like a ps5 pro 2 instead of an actual ps6
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MisterXDTV
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It would work only if they could price-drop the PS5 at that point
playbignbox
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You are in the stage of denial lol
MisterXDTV
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I don't care, I have a PS5 Pro since Day 1
They can release PS6 in 2030 for all I care
asdasdasdbb
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I don't think that's gonna happen unless RAM prices fall...
bender
What time is it?
Zelnick's statements of late would lead you to believe that GTA will be a normally priced game. While they could get away with charging more, I don't think they'll risk taking a hit to their shark card delivery system.
mayham2199
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Sure but the pro isn't being subsidized while they always subsidized the base console.
StreetsofBeige
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Well, that's what happens with supply and demand and so many key product lines concentrated in a small number of companies and countries.
If costs of making stuff in richer countries didnt get so out of whack over the decades, you could had still had everything from shoes to microwaves to electronics still made domestically just like the old days.
Wages, profiteering, gov taxes, insurance and benefits you name it. Have that shit increasing over 50 years and that's why min wage and a big mac combo which were probably $1 when the Beatles were #1, now it's $10-15.
In Canada alone, the min wage per hour is $15-18/hr depending on the province. More likely the shops and restaurants are paying closer to $20/hr to keep workers. Then add all the perks, insurance etc... on top of it. And for stuff like real estate, you know why new homes costs so much? Could be your local gov raking in the money. See what your gov is charging land developers. A new home built in Toronto could have 100k in gov fees alone. Now multiply that for units in a 40 floor tower. Someone posted on reddit development costs for all regions in the area, and in 2010 the fee was $10k.
If costs of making stuff in richer countries didnt get so out of whack over the decades, you could had still had everything from shoes to microwaves to electronics still made domestically just like the old days.
Wages, profiteering, gov taxes, insurance and benefits you name it. Have that shit increasing over 50 years and that's why min wage and a big mac combo which were probably $1 when the Beatles were #1, now it's $10-15.
In Canada alone, the min wage per hour is $15-18/hr depending on the province. More likely the shops and restaurants are paying closer to $20/hr to keep workers. Then add all the perks, insurance etc... on top of it. And for stuff like real estate, you know why new homes costs so much? Could be your local gov raking in the money. See what your gov is charging land developers. A new home built in Toronto could have 100k in gov fees alone. Now multiply that for units in a 40 floor tower. Someone posted on reddit development costs for all regions in the area, and in 2010 the fee was $10k.
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Go_Ly_Dow
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Yes pricepoint is indeed an issue, but I think the GTA6 hype will be too strong.
I have a friend who's not gamed since the PS3 who is looking to buy my PS5 just for GTA6 lol.
I don't think the PS5 will exceed the PS4s sales but it can sell pretty close to it I think.
Remember Sony's market share has grown a lot over Xbox plus the cost barrer to enter PC gaming is enormous right now.
MisterXDTV
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True but "subsidizing" makes sense only if you are sure you are selling a lot of units
If the entry price is too high, it won't work anyway
DeepEnigma
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I thought the CEO kind of put that rumor to rest recently?
With the components prices, even if they subsisidized it it will still cost way more than the Pro.
playbignbox
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This is how many people feel. At that price, a lot of them won't even mind waiting to buy the next generation.
The most likely scenario is that the PS6 will cost the same as, or more than, the PS5 Pro.
If it does end up being cheaper, it'll probably be by a small margin, something like $50 less (around $850), and that's without the disc drive.
That idea people used to have that it would cost $600 is completely unrealistic now.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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The argument actually works in reverse. With the PS5 being so expensive and the PS6 likely to be expensive as well they need to give people more reasons to own their console even more now. Putting their games on PC will just make them end up like MS and Xbox now. Having an expensive console with no exclusives actually kills your brand faster than anything.
This made me remember the thing that Atlus producers said that a lot of people were not buying their games at launch because they made the public always wait for an definitive edition.
So I think the same thing can happen now. Why buy an PS6 when you have an perfectly functional PS5 that plays 95% of all games for years to come? Just wait for the PS6 Pro to get an true leap.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Parris is an idiot. Having a more expensive console without exclusives is exactly the quagmire that Xbox is in right now
They need real exclusves now more than ever.
Also, Parris is acting like PC prices haven't doubled or tripled. I was looking online today and my RTX 4090 I got back in 2022 for $1600 is $3700+ now.
Releasing their games on PC will actually end up killing their brand faster than anything. These Xbox shills like Parris are just eager to push Playstation off the same cliff that MS in their stupidity jumped off without a parachute.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Japan has had it the worst since 2020.
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MisterXDTV
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Exactly, when you hike the price up, you are forced to give people reasons to buy it EVEN MORE
How exactly putting games on a different platforms would help Sony here???
Just the usual bullshit by PC Port Beggers and Xbots
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PS5 is already in PS4 sales range, right now it's around 94 or 95 million & GTA & Christmas will take it to at least 107 million they would almost have to stop production in order not to reach PS4 numbers
LavitzSlambert
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A year or two ago I decided PS5 Pro and Switch 2 are my endgame console platforms, potentially. The combination of backwards compatibility, peripherals, price, and library is just insanely good. I haven't written off the PS6 yet, but it's going to take a lot to get me to move on from what I have right now. Even Sony's exclusives will not do the job unless it's something on the magnitude of that Odyssey/BotW combo from 2017 (and at a time where cross-gen is more prevalent than ever before).
If more people start thinking this way, the industry is headed for major trouble.
If more people start thinking this way, the industry is headed for major trouble.
Please tell me this is the same friend of yours that was playing Freedom Fighters exclusively? And that he is still playing it?I have a hardcore procrastinator friend who is still multiple console generations behind and is notoriously cheap and has to weigh making a big purchase for like 3 years before he finally buys something new(and sometimes never does). For example until last year he was on a cell phone from 2013 that he was too cheap/lazy to upgrade until his family was like enough my god, we're getting you the newest iPhone for Christmas.
Anyway, he's been telling me he wants a PS5 for years. holiday 2024 I told him to get one, now's your best chance. He decided to pass. He's definitely never getting one now
Ya snooze ya lose!
playbignbox
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For almost a thousand dollars, does Sony produce a reasonable amount of exclusive games that justifies buying a console at that price? Imagine paying that much money to play things like Horizon MMO lol
Unfortunately, games that make buying a Sony console worthwhile, like Astro Boy or Returnal, are in the minority. The PS5 is turning 7 years old, and you can count on one hand the number of games produced by Sony that are worth buying the console for (at launch price).
nial
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Starting point in Japan recently went down in price with the new Digital Edition SKU, though. From ¥39,980 to ¥55,500 in 2026, compared to going from $399.99 to $599.99.Japan has had it the worst since 2020.
Sure, it's locked to Japanese language only, but Japanese consumers obviously don't care about that, lol.
Puscifer
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To give Sony, MS and Nintendo some slack none of them could anticipate the triple threat of rapid inflation, AI and WW3-lite.
Helium is used in production.
sainraja
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Being greedy does not automatically guarantee one money. If it was simply greed, Sony and all console manufacturers would have priced their boxes are higher. It is a question of how long, given everything that is happening in the market and how that is driving the cost up, is a company willing to absorb the cost and for how long. This gen and last, Sony hasn't been willing to take losses on their box and I assume PS3 is likely the reason for it (it was about survival).
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Joe Cool
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I am trash at math but that's like $1,200.00 for me. That is insanity. The corpos have lost their minds.
The Japan region locked ps5 digital isnt increasing in price from current levelJapan has had it the worst since 2020.
No one is leaving the PS5 installed base behind thinking they can move all those users to another box quickly.
It's impossible at this stage, the old concept of generations is dead.
With these prices Sony can only plan things in terms of ecosystem which is what they already stated they would do over a year ago.
All games will continue to be developed for PS5 as a base, PS6 will be a premium experience bridging the gap with high end PCs, they will also sell a defacto PS5 portable to cover another market.
There is no chance the PS6 can fully replace PS5 at this stage, it can complement it as a high end device.
They still need exclusives but to keep people engaged in the whole PS ecosystem not to sell a high end box specifically.
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Nydius
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Oof. Looking at the current exchange rate to USD, that's almost $100 more than I'd have to pay for the same, including my state and local sales tax which, unlike the rest of the civilized world, isn't included in the price listing. After the price hike, a Pro ($899.99) + Disk Drive ($79.99) + official vertical stand ($29) + tax (10% state/local/city) comes to $1120.88. Current exchange rate for yours is $1214.17. Insane.
Physiognomonics
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The portable console will luckily become the affordable model for Playstation and will likely be an huge commercial success.
But they could mandate portable support because of PS6 insane price. Now I could see this happen. Thankfully it has enough ram to not be a problem for developers like X1S was.
But really, Playstation don't deserve Cerny.
But they could mandate portable support because of PS6 insane price. Now I could see this happen. Thankfully it has enough ram to not be a problem for developers like X1S was.
But really, Playstation don't deserve Cerny.
Up at ps5 pro anniversary pricing and while that didnt include the disc drive you get the edge controller.
nial
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It's not like he works for them for free, does he?
StreetsofBeige
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One things for sure, if Pro is $700 US, PS6 will be $900+.
There's zero chance PS6 will be the same or lower price.
Only way that happens is if some gamers are right claiming the new next gen architecture is supposed to be dirt cheap to make than current specs. I dont see that happening.
Not too many times in history a new gen of system is same or cheaper than the old one. I'm sure it's happened (like $400 Saturn --> $200 DC which was amazing when you think of it) but not too often. And that doesnt even factor in chip price increases going through the roof.
Only way new console prices dont rocket up:
1. New architecture is so much cheaper to make (not sure why people think that)
2. The whole mem/chip prices crash down in the next 1-2 years as the whole AI data centre thing craters, so supply opens up for other gadgets
There's zero chance PS6 will be the same or lower price.
Only way that happens is if some gamers are right claiming the new next gen architecture is supposed to be dirt cheap to make than current specs. I dont see that happening.
Not too many times in history a new gen of system is same or cheaper than the old one. I'm sure it's happened (like $400 Saturn --> $200 DC which was amazing when you think of it) but not too often. And that doesnt even factor in chip price increases going through the roof.
Only way new console prices dont rocket up:
1. New architecture is so much cheaper to make (not sure why people think that)
2. The whole mem/chip prices crash down in the next 1-2 years as the whole AI data centre thing craters, so supply opens up for other gadgets
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Boy bawang
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Great hardware...
A cut-down and underclocked RTX 2050 with less RAM than a base PS5 and 256 GB storage
A portable hardware capable of 90% of what a series S does (and sometimes exceeding it), bundling a controller that doubles as a mouse, with seamless transition between docked and portable mode, significantly thinner and lighter than a steam deck, sold less than 450 bucks is absolutely great hardware. There's a lot fanboys like you can criticise about 2026 Nintendo but the hardware isn't it.
MisterXDTV
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It's 2020 hardware sold like new in 2025
And many people don't give a fuck it's portable anyway
They don't have a choice to buy a Nintendo home console and they are stuck with a handheld with a HDMI Out
It's basically PS4 Pro level at best
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FIREKNIGHT2029
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Well, they'll have to step it up going into next gen. Last time we had an expensive Playstation console was with the $599 PS3 and it forced Sony to give us the best gen ever in terms of exclusives. Games like Uncharted, TLOU, GOW3, LBP, KZ2, Infamous, Warhawk, Demon's Souls, etc. all came out from Sony's strong desire to give us reasons to buy their console.
Boy bawang
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If you think that it was possible to make a hybrid console with those specs on 2020 without it costing 2000 bucks or more, you just don't understand how technology works.
As for "PS4 pro" level at best, there are already several games running on Switch 2 which couldn't run on any PS4 iteration.
TrebleShot
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It's hard to fathom there are people with brains thinking that a 900 ps5 pro will equal more games and consoles sales.
Sony is in the business of making money not the business of elite branding that makes little to no sense for your customers to invest in.
No having exclusives is not going to sell more 900 plastic boxes and having 900 plastic boxes is not going to sell you more exclusives.
Moronic and lacking basic business intelligence.
Sony is in the business of making money not the business of elite branding that makes little to no sense for your customers to invest in.
No having exclusives is not going to sell more 900 plastic boxes and having 900 plastic boxes is not going to sell you more exclusives.
Moronic and lacking basic business intelligence.