tassletine
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It will work for downloadable (cheap) ports of existing or retro games.
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Wii U Pro Controller announced - X360pad design, no screen, "for multiplatform games"
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It will work for downloadable (cheap) ports of existing or retro games.
For third parties. Nintendo themselves has positioned it as a sort of causal hook. I imagine they will continue to use it but they are the only ones who know what they're doing in that market.
I want to see him play a FPS match with the DS3 against TTP who will use a Move controller and see if the "facts" still holds.
Even though the Wiimote+nunchuk are probably much MUCH better for shooters (aside from having a mouse/keyboard) you guys are probably right about people just giving up and going the gamepad route.
Regardless, it would be nice it could be used for all classic titles, VC and so on. I guess it'll have analog triggers since we'll be playing Gamecube over VC.
Regardless, it would be nice it could be used for all classic titles, VC and so on. I guess it'll have analog triggers since we'll be playing Gamecube over VC.
Yep agreed. If developers can get away without doing optional stuff they will. You only have too look at the PS3 as a prime example.
* Half the developers didn't use trophies when they where optional until it became mandatory
* Noone uses XMB ingame music
* Noone uses the screenshot function
* Barely anyone does trials or demos for PSN stuff
* Not all developers use cross game invites.
You need to make this stuff mandatory. Also the Wii Classic Controller should of being mandatory for the Wii. Options are good.
LOL
User Name Here
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Oh!? So my controller ISN'T broken?
I can't imagine this being super comfortableI'm just not a fan of face buttons being below the sticks..
I dare you to name the last uncomfortable Nintendo controller.
Freezie KO
Banned
Developers (not you or I) will realize the disparity between the two control methods and add training wheels for dual analog users. If there was ever a way to remove aim assist, it'd be more obvious what control methods win out.
And I don't doubt that you can beat some KBM with sixaxis. But that's a personal skill. If you take a larger sample of a playing field with no aim assist, I would love to see the stats on people using Wiimote vs dual analog.
Oni Link 666
Member
I don't think so. That looks like it's the same (full sized) d-pad that's on the Classic Controller Pro.
I can't imagine this being super comfortable
Looks like you're fucked anyway on wii u.... Uniquely fuqued
Nintendo 64 controller. Yeah i went there.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
This part makes sense, but...
...what?
Wiimote and N64.
Oh it is still broken, but they pretty much all do it after a while. It depends on the game also, some have zero deadzone (which causes a drift).
jediyoshi
Member
Developers already pick and choose what they want to support. If anything, it'd make them do less work. More parity with the other controllers, they'll just drop the pro controller which is the odd one out. It's not like all games that supported the classic controller/gamecube controller always made sure to include support for the other.
blame space
Banned
isn't this what amirox has always done
Yep. Just the D-Pad is my only issue with it.
Power. Glove! R. O. B. !
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Hah, yup.
Poimandres
Member
Nintendo leads and the others follow!
Looks like a good controller. That d-pad will surely be an improvement over the 360 pad, although I haven't tried the "new" 360 d-pads.
Looks like a good controller. That d-pad will surely be an improvement over the 360 pad, although I haven't tried the "new" 360 d-pads.
grimshawish
Banned
Shocking Info.
You don't need both or all.
One pad/and 3 pros will do for the full kit I suspect. No different from any other system frankly. Wiimotes? If you don't own them already don't get them
Where the hell have you been for the last 6 years? Did you realise your list wasn't very long so just made stuff up?
What about the Wiimote was uncomfortable? I find it incredibly comfortable.
The buttons below the stick is a huge mistake. The 360 design works because it makes you stretch your thumb a bit due to the stick being higher. Buttons don't give this extra distance and will make your thumb feel cramped quickly.
IMO the controller should have copied the GameCube design but with the 360 button layout.
IMO the controller should have copied the GameCube design but with the 360 button layout.
lol someone is holding their controllers wrong.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I see as Nintendo "borrowing" from 360, just like everybody else "borrowed" from them when they invented d-pads, analog sticks, shoulder buttons, etc.
You use what works, and the 360 controller most definitely does.
edit: Wiimote uncomfortable!? Now I've seen everything
You use what works, and the 360 controller most definitely does.
edit: Wiimote uncomfortable!? Now I've seen everything
By button placement, I assume you're talking about the right analog stick and the face buttons.
Face buttons are vastly used as secondary control inputs, whereas the right analog stick is used as a primary control input, usually in conjunction with the left analog stick. The fact that the right analog stick is placed where your right thumb will naturally go is done so it's easier to access and use--not the other way around. That, and to avoid possible lawsuits. Microsoft is a douchebag of a company when it comes to lawsuits.
The attitude that the Xbox controller has the "perfect" button placement stems from the years of using said controller. Now, that doesn't say anything about the ergonomics; the XBox's controller design is a really ergonomically-comfortable controller. Clearly, the ergonomics made it to the Wii U Pro Controller, as well.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Awkward button placement and boxy design.
Edit : And okay, the N64 controller wasn't uncomfortable. Just bad.
JennyTablina
Member
While it's maybe a bit of a cop-out, I think Nintendo's realized that, while it's nice to have the unique control scheme for people to work with - having a decent controller to lure multiplatform devs and people like indie devs is likely a good idea
I mean okay, the wii had the classic controller, but it wasn't really till Monster Hunter rolled in that they treated as anything other than an accessory for people who wanted to play Virtual Console. That coupled with Wii's limits meant that the devs who might of developed for the system ended up just focusing on the other 2.
It seems a little odd to complain about a more-promoted traditional option, when many a gamer complained about how Nintendo and every other company seemed to feel they needed waggle in a Wii game, simply because the Wii remote was the default control option.
Sort of hoping the Wii U comes bundled with a pad and pro controller, or that they do a Wii-Play and bundle the Pro-Controller with a game at Launch
I mean okay, the wii had the classic controller, but it wasn't really till Monster Hunter rolled in that they treated as anything other than an accessory for people who wanted to play Virtual Console. That coupled with Wii's limits meant that the devs who might of developed for the system ended up just focusing on the other 2.
It seems a little odd to complain about a more-promoted traditional option, when many a gamer complained about how Nintendo and every other company seemed to feel they needed waggle in a Wii game, simply because the Wii remote was the default control option.
Sort of hoping the Wii U comes bundled with a pad and pro controller, or that they do a Wii-Play and bundle the Pro-Controller with a game at Launch
Wonder what other online service will be influencing their own.
Jive Turkey
Unconfirmed Member
I can't wait for them to announce the Dual Shock 4. REVOLUTIONARY!
It's very comfortable when held vertically, the curves match the palm of your hand and the reach of your fingers.
And it's just fine horizontally too.
maquiladora
Member
I wonder if games that have essential gameplay mechanics using the gamepad (touch, motion, stuff on the screen etc.) will be incompatible with the pro controller.
tassletine
Member
Since your getting all 'factually inherently inferior' on us I'd like to call your bluff. There's a few genres that it is superior over regular controllers: point and click adventures, RTS' and lightgun style games (see Sin and Punishment for hardcore).
Now fill up the other 99.7% with genres or else it's not 'factually' correct at all.
The GamePad is still "mandatory." It's the "1st Player" controller. The one that'll come packed into every system. The one that'll be immediately available for games that are primarily single-player experiences (a vast many).
Gamers will have to go out and buy these seperately. Just like on any other console.
I really didn't like it when playing it "sideways".... NSMBWii gave me cramps...
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I don't think it will be that big of an issue.
Probably all developers will create a control configurations based on the Wii U tablet, seeing as it is bundled with the console, primarily. As the Wii U pro controller share the exact same features sans the display, they'll be able to just re-use that control configurations for +2 multiplayer titles/modes - regardless of whether they're also adding Wiimote+nunchuck support or not (which they probably would as well if the Wiimote was bundled with the console).
More likely is that the Wii U pro controller will become the standard MP controller, with the Wiimote only being used for a smaller number of games.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
this is weird, and i'd say its nintendo kind of saying "please come back to us, hardcore crowd, since we're losing all of our casuals to iOS and Android gaming."
the name "Pro" for the controller makes it seem like they are admitting all of their other controllers are somehow less valuable or useful for games on the console.
the name "Pro" for the controller makes it seem like they are admitting all of their other controllers are somehow less valuable or useful for games on the console.
Alex
Member
Wii Remote was trying to do too much with what should have been it's very own style and design. They should have just packed in two controllers from the get go. In normal mode, you couldn't reach half the damn buttons, in flipped it was lopsided with sharp corners.
Of course, I abhor motion controls so I'm against it pretty much altogether but even with that out of mind it wasn't anything great.
JordanLMiller
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EatinOlives
Member
That's not a plus for me, that's a negative.
There isn't anything about this controller that's any different from your average 360 pad/Dualshock/<Insert PC Controller of Choice Here>. I can't see what third party publishers "wanted" with the controller than Nintendo had to go off and make a 360 pad clone for, especially considering how basically this controller is the same as the U Pad except without the screen/camera/scanner.
I was hoping that third parties would've made more unique control schemes or even just extra features using the control pad. Instead, this makes it much more likely the WiiU will just get straight ports, and straight ports doesn't get people to jump ship from Microsoft/Sony.
Not sure I follow. Making a clone controller that Microsoft/Sony has been using for well over a decade is "exciting" and a "first time ever"?
MrCunningham
Member
People have been ripping off Nintendo's controller designs for decades. But when the reverse happens, it's Nintendo who the ones that are shameless?
But really, it's a nice looking controller. But I don't understand why they shouldn't stick with the classic controller pro design layout instead? I would prefer the buttons and D-pad to be on the top as well.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
When holding the Wiimote vertically, the A button, D-pad, minus button, and home button are all fine. Oh, and the B trigger, of course. Every other button is awkwardly placed, or I have to adjust my hand to reach them. This leaves the entire controller feeling cumbersome. It's a relatively small issue, but huge compared to the ease of use of the 360, PS3 and Gamecube controllers.
And yeah, the boxy design is worse when held horizontally. My hands cramp up pretty fast. Far faster than any other controller except for maybe the NES one.
Just my opinions here. I don't want to derail.
Ah, yeah. Those Z buttons, man. What were they thinking.
soxinthebox
Member
Seems like a bandaid solution to playing with more than one wii u pad.
Why does anyone play those two systems in the first place? The games they share are what the bro dudes are looking for. This is the bro dude controller. Bro dude games can now be played on this console, so the idea is bro dude games will be made for the console.
They're just trying to bring in the bro dude crowd by appealing to the developers who make bro dude games.
Bro dude.