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2 Men Use Girl as Human Shield, Father Guns Them Down
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Halcyon
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I get that this is a meme, but how is it any different than saying "JEWS" in response to something. For a forum that is supposed to be as accepting and non-offensive as possible, every time we have a thread involving firearms it's "murica, redneck, southern, hick etc" all over the place.
Am I the only person that sees the irony in this?
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Deleted member 47027
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Oh, he's just being a wiener.
CarpeDeezNutz
Member
I've noticed it too but...
It's cos we're the top dogs so it's like little kids taking a jab at dad.
Eighty Deuce
Banned
Right wing folks have thicker skin so it doesn't bother us.
Yellowflashdude
Member
If the dads really 34, that mean he had her when he was 17.
jackie jormp-jomp
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"Yes if only every man woman and child was armed with a Concealed USP .45 with 2 extra freedom-sized mags, I'm sure crime would go down in the UK right?"
Is this what you wanted to hear?
That was funny.
stuminus3
Member
Jesus H Christ. You let them into your house and take whatever they want then let the police deal with it, what in the heck must be wrong with you to start a gunfight with your children in the middle over some material possessions? This wasn't a life or death situation until they made it one.
#1 priority is ensuring the safety of your children, grabbing a loaded gun is anything but that. :/
#1 priority is ensuring the safety of your children, grabbing a loaded gun is anything but that. :/
robotzombie
Member
Math!
We weren't there...perhaps he felt this wasn't a situation where the suspects intended on letting them live.
Police are just as human as a father. If the father feels he could save his daughter, he will. I mean, it's his freaking kid. I have training in that area, but I also don't have any guns in the home.
RockTurtle
Member
are these the real pictures of them or is this some sort of twisted commentary?
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
Member
And if "What they want..." includes your daughter, son, wife, or mother? Why would you give the benefit of the doubt to the types of people who are willing to commit home invasions/robberies?
It's the latter, which is some bullshit.
Eighty Deuce
Banned
Yea let them take anything they want, and run the risk they take your daughter too. Let cops handle it, it's just as likely to put her in danger. We can go on an on about what ifs, the fact of the matter is he had a gun and did the right thing.
Mammoth Jones
Member
In all seriousness I'm glad no innocents were hurt.
That's always an option. And if your family is safe and secure and you hear someone rumbling through you shit then by all means stay put and call the police. Stuff is insured and can be replaced.
But at the point where someone is assaulting your child you have to make quick choices. What happens when you comply and they decide they want a few warm minutes with your daughter/wife? Sometimes people need to fight back.
Yeah.
Well their homes would first have to be invaded by an armed thug(s) holding their family member as a human shield to recreate the scenario, so there probably won't be a statistical spike.
The story reminds me of something I saw at the range last weekend. Middle-aged guy was there with his wife, had a .357 revolver and a 9mm with them. He was shooting a pretty consistent 5" grouping at 7 yards. Not gonna win any prizes with that, but competent for self defense. His wife was randomly spraying bullets into the dirt about 5 yards in front of her (flinching and pushing the pistol downward in anticipation of recoil). There was no unsafe handling going on, but she never improved even the slightest. I hope she gets some more practice.
If you ever find yourself in such a situation, you're free to handle it as you see fit. The way I see it, anyone who would perpetrate a crime in this way has already shown that the life of others doesn't mean shit to them. To believe they're just going to take a few items from around the house and leave peaceably is foolish.
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So basically these guys grab the daughter hostage in the driveway to get into a house with a family and you think they came for only material possessions? People looking for stuff break into empty homes.
Maybe you should watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvvHMM6TF50
Ummm wtf? did I not see that Robocop or something WTF?
How do you know what their intentions were? One assailant already had a murder charge and there have been plenty of home invasions that have resulted in deaths to people who fully complied. A guy and his wife were beaten with clubs last week not ten minutes from here and the guy died on the scene. It's not really an isolated incident.
Seems to happen lot already. There's a subreddit for gun use (and misuse) for self defence which seems to have a lot of examples.
http://www.reddit.com/r/dgu/
I'll let others judge for themselves, but personally I'd like to have a room I could retreat to to blockade the door while I retrieve a gun from a safe and call the cops and hope they don't come through the door.
Your suggestion is a gamble too...
What would you do if your daughter was held captive outside of your panic room?
RockTurtle
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i'm going to assume it's either a racial stereotype or gun owner stereotype with a dash of religious stereotyping.
but c'est la vie!
just saw the thread. yup kinda cringy. still scratching my head as to it's inclusion here and how it doesn't sound like some sort of commentary on the victims.
Karak
Member
Negative. It would have been "Both pulled their guns from their holsters."
It's from a creepy father/daughter purity vow thread. There was some hilarity.
Omegasquash
Member
Jesus. Did the man have any training? I mean I guess you have to have some familiarity when you can pull something like that off but whoa.
I mean, I can't say he was wrong, and I can't say he was right....I don't think this is black and white. Part of me thinks he's irresponsible for shooting in a situation like that, another part of me says "god damned right, he did what any parent with the capability to do so would."
All told, I think it's important to highlight that these stories don't seem to be the norm, I do not encourage people to make fast decisions like this. I can't sit here and judge him though. From his statement, he doesn't seem like some shoot from the hip hero that will jump over to the NRA waving his gun and yelling "FREEDOM 2ND AMENDMENT WOO."
I hope that everyone involved, the families of the criminals, and the children come through this. I really do.
I mean, I can't say he was wrong, and I can't say he was right....I don't think this is black and white. Part of me thinks he's irresponsible for shooting in a situation like that, another part of me says "god damned right, he did what any parent with the capability to do so would."
All told, I think it's important to highlight that these stories don't seem to be the norm, I do not encourage people to make fast decisions like this. I can't sit here and judge him though. From his statement, he doesn't seem like some shoot from the hip hero that will jump over to the NRA waving his gun and yelling "FREEDOM 2ND AMENDMENT WOO."
I hope that everyone involved, the families of the criminals, and the children come through this. I really do.
I don't have a daughter and live alone, which is why I said I'd let people judge for themselves, because every situation is different and people should have some realistic understanding of their capabilities and the consequences of something going wrong.
VanquishUK
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Lol at the guy vomiting on his dick. So good.
They held a gun to a 17 year old girls head. I would say that makes it a life or death situation.
BronsonLee
Member
*laughs hysterically*
You really don't know what a life or death situation is, do you?
But it's alright because YOU HATE GUNZ
harriet the spy
Member
Whatever your position on home defense is, the father/mother should be held accountable (and I don't mean a slap on the wrist) for shooting through a neighbor's window - whether that was intentional or not.
lol
edit: btw, if the stray bullet did end up hitting someone, the suspects would have been the ones held accountable, hence the murder 2 charge on the suspect that got away.
Mammoth Jones
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I agree. They should pay to get the window fixed.
Random Painted HIghway
Member
So you just hope for the best that these guys aren't going to rape/kill the girl your wife and you? I don't know how someone can let that happen if he has the capability to stop the situation dead, particularly with the tactical advantage of seeing the abduction in the driveway. Besides, turns out that yes, at least one of these thugs had a history of pulling the trigger on someone. if a gun is pointed at my daughter, it already is a life or death situation.
On the shooting, I'm guessing the father had a good angle as they were entering and not a head on encounter with the girl directly between? Interested to see a reenactment.
the cake is fake
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I can tell that you've been in the same situation and have done exactly what you wrote. The cops came to your rescue and apprehended the bad guys shortly after. You took your family to Disney World the very next day to celebrate.
harriet the spy
Member
Care to explain your position intelligently, or do you lack the capabilities?
What if it's a double pane window? I'm tired of you suggesting they get way with this!
BronsonLee
Member
Sec guys I'm just going to call the OP fucking stupid and see how that goes
CrankyJay, I'm also wondering why you hate apple pie and MATH
i edited since i figured you would be offended...you just need to look up the laws
nevermind that your post was laughable which is why people were joking about replacing the window
First thing that came to mind (Halo 2): www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_HxlekWWN0#t=1m14s
You suggestion that they be held liable for anything other than breaking the window was laughable, so he laughed out loud. Would you mind clarifying you position on what is a slap on the wrist?
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