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Alien Anthology Blu Ray Official-Oct. 25

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MYE

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JoeBoy101 said:
I despise Resurrection, but Alien 3 wasn't that bad, and to get all the features and everything, I might bite down. Alot may rest on the packaging. I'm still irritated I had to import the Alien Head Quad set for the DVDs.

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Bought my "Head edition" for 20€uros :D :D :D
 

Tunesmith

formerly "chigiri"
PhoncipleBone said:
It will be a few years then. We still haven't gotten the last two Matrix movies separately yet. And the fifth and sixth discs probably arent going to be anywhere but this box set.
I'm sorry, Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions are still not out on bluray for separate purchase in the US? :lol All three came out 23rd March 2009 separately, 4 months after the collection here in Europe.

Edit: I see Reloaded is set for a 7th September 2010 release in the US. Revolutions no release date.

That's crazy. :lol
 

MadmanUK

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Why is this so expensive in the US? The US list price is $140 whereas the UK RRP is £50 (around $75). The 25th October is going to be well expensive with this, Back to the Future trilogy, Iron Man 2, Clone Wars Season 2 & the Robocop trilogy (hope this gets a new transfer).
 
Discotheque said:
Crazy features discs. But I'm not making the same mistake I did with the Matrix collection.

This time I'm waiting for individual releases. I only want the first two.

Same here. I'm not a fan of the series, so that price is way too much for me when I only want two of the movies.
 

Jex

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RadioHeadAche said:
Same here. I'm not a fan of the series, so that price is way too much for me when I only want two of the movies.

Yeah, same here. No matter how much I love the first two, I can't justify also getting the final two.
 
i pre-ordered the comic-con egg edition from fox connect. it was $150. $50 discount if you pre-order apparently (reduced from $200). figured other people may want to know. hopefully the packaging is as well made as it is cool looking. i've been burned by limiteds before.
 

NekoFever

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MadmanUK said:
Why is this so expensive in the US? The US list price is $140 whereas the UK RRP is £50 (around $75).
It does seem really expensive in the US. The standard non-egg set is £37.49 ($58.45) on Amazon UK compared to $97.99 (£62.85) on Amazon US. I'd recommend importing if it wasn't from Fox and therefore fairly likely to be region-coded.

*hugs multiregion player*
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=68820
Interviewer: Do you have anything to do with the new Aliens stuff they are putting out?

Cameron: I just did a complete remaster of Aliens personally, uh, with the same colorist I worked with from Avatar and it's spectacular. We went in and completely denoised and degrained it, up-rezzed it, color corrected it from end to end, every frame and it looks amazing. It looks better than it did in theaters, originally, because it was shot on a high speed negative, a new negative that didn't pan out too well and got replaced the following year so it was pretty grainy... we got rid of all the grain and it's sharper and clearer and more beautiful than it's ever looked and we did that to the long version.

Bahahaha.
 

Jangaroo

Always the tag bridesmaid, never the tag bride.
Tedesco! said:
I really don't understand the Aliens hate at all, unless it's just Cameron/Avatar backlash. I have a soft spot in my heart for Alien 3, if only because of the massive train wreck that it was. The original edit was o.k., but the Assembly Cut really is worth a watch and makes Alien 3 a better movie. Resurrection is pure shit. I consider myself to be a very big fan of the Alien series, and even I can barely watch the movie in one sitting.
No self respecting Alien fan would ever acknowledge Resurrection. WHAT FOURTH MOVIE? I VAGUELY REMEMBER 3. ALIENS? AWESOME. ALIEN? GOD DAMN AMAZING.
 
If you can trust anybody to look over the process, its Cameron. I can't wait to see it. The film stock that was process for its theatrical release was shot to shit, so I'm glad to see it finally getting the treatment it deserves. Better be able to buy this shit separately.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
Scullibundo said:
If you can trust anybody to look over the process, its Cameron. I can't wait to see it. The film stock that was process for its theatrical release was shot to shit, so I'm glad to see it finally getting the treatment it deserves. Better be able to buy this shit separately.
You probably won't be able to for a long time.

I dont mind owning the Alien 3 assembly cut, so the box set is a no brainer. Resurrection isn't enough to dissuade me.
 

jambo

Member
Day one, can't wait for this to finally come out.

Then it's just Star Wars and LotR Extended BR next year and we're set.
 

Spire

Subconscious Brolonging
3 is worth buying just for the special features alone. Even with that 30 minutes cut out the features on the Quadrilogy disc showed a pretty honest deconstruction of what went wrong with the picture. Plus a lot of the original ideas and concepts for the film are pretty fascinating.
 

Spire

Subconscious Brolonging
jambo said:
Maybe if we all wish really hard at the same time...

=[

If The Hobbit films were still on track, you'd be right. They were planning a 2011 release in the run-up to The Hobbit but since everything has grinded to a halt because of the MGM mess, who knows? They could still drop them next year, but I think the more likely scenario is they'll wait another year or so for The Hobbit to get underway.
 

Tedesco!

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Jangaroo said:
No self respecting Alien fan would ever acknowledge Resurrection. WHAT FOURTH MOVIE? I VAGUELY REMEMBER 3. ALIENS? AWESOME. ALIEN? GOD DAMN AMAZING.

It's too bad they never made any Alien movies after 3, right?
 
JoeBoy101 said:
I despise Resurrection, but Alien 3 wasn't that bad, and to get all the features and everything, I might bite down. Alot may rest on the packaging. I'm still irritated I had to import the Alien Head Quad set for the DVDs.

alien%20quadrilogy%20set.jpg

Loved Resurrection & loathed Alien3. Perhaps it was "Bald Ripley" that turned me off to it? I dunno. Loved Alien, Aliens and Alien: Resurrection, so it's not like I'm against the franchise. Hell, Sigourney Weaver was my first "Female Badass" for me, growing up as a kid.
 
Will they sell the first two films separately?
When Fox brought the Die Hard Quadrilogy, I was thankfully able to purchase part 1 and 3 separately.
 

gdt

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afternoon delight said:
I loved the grain in Aliens, especially the beginning infiltration in the tunnels. I loved it.


:(

Nah man, that's just nasty. I can live with it, but if Cameron say's he can remove it well, awesome.
 

Tedesco!

Member
DiatribeEQ said:
Loved Resurrection & loathed Alien3. Perhaps it was "Bald Ripley" that turned me off to it? I dunno. Loved Alien, Aliens and Alien: Resurrection, so it's not like I'm against the franchise. Hell, Sigourney Weaver was my first "Female Badass" for me, growing up as a kid.

I don't understand.
 
Snaku said:
Welcome to DVNR Hell. =/
That is a fear, but if Cameron is personally supervising the process then it should come out VERY nice. If it were just some random Fox guy, then I would be really worried. But Cameron knows his shit, and will treat this well.
 

Tedesco!

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thedigitalbits.com comments on the Aliens de-noising/de-graining:

First up today, there's been a small degree of panic in some quarters online in the last couple days about director James Cameron's recent comments on the remastered Aliens transfer. Cameron was video interviewed over at Coming Soon.net about Avatar, and about 5:30 into the clip he talks about the new Aliens HD master for the upcoming Blu-ray. To quote: "It's spectacular. We went in and completely de-noised it, de-grained it, up-rezzed, color-corrected every frame, and it looks amazing. It looks better that it looked in the theaters originally. Because it was shot on a high-speed negative that was a new negative that didn't pan out too well and got replaced the following year. So it's pretty grainy. We got rid of all the grain. It's sharper and clearer and more beautiful than it's ever looked. And we did that to the long version, to the 'director's cut' or the extended play."

As you might expect, all that talk of de-noising and de-graining has some fans freaked out that the release is going to suffer the same excessively DNR-ed fate as Fox's recent Predator: Ultimate Hunter Blu-ray. Here's the deal: Everyone we trust who was involved, and/or has actually SEEN the new Aliens HD master for Blu-ray, reports to us that the film looks terrific. To the degree that DNR was used, it was applied carefully and with a light hand, with an eye toward striking the proper balance between maintaining the detail and integrity of the image and the desire to reduce grain and address the deficiencies of the stock used at the time. There is apparently STILL grain left in the image, it's just no longer excessive or distracting. Plus, Cameron is no slouch when it comes to the presentation quality of his films on disc, and he approved this transfer and master. Look, there's a VERY big difference in digital mastering when the filmmakers are directly involved in the process, as opposed to when they're not. So we're told the disc looks great, we trust that it looks great and I'll personally work to directly confirm that. My own feeling is that Predator was probably an aberration. Fox has generally been doing very good mastering work for Blu-ray in the last year or so, and I suspect this is going to be a non-issue when we all get our hands on the Aliens disc. 'Nuff said for now. By the way, it's a good interview at Coming Soon, so do check it out.
 

Maxrunner

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I might buy the uk version of the anthology, i assume there wont be any differences between uk and us versions like the quadrilogy dvd where there was some stuff missing from region2 set.
 
Will probably fork out the money for the whole set... Alien and Aliens are the only essentials, but I have a soft spot for Alien 3. If only because it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be - it's just not really in the same ballpark as the prior films. It's the Ringo of the Alien series. Which I guess makes Resurrection the Yoko Ono.
 

Yasae

Banned
PhoncipleBone said:
That is a fear, but if Cameron is personally supervising the process then it should come out VERY nice. If it were just some random Fox guy, then I would be really worried. But Cameron knows his shit, and will treat this well.
True. If you listened to his director's commentary on Aliens (the Quadrilogy version IIRC?,) he could damn near be a cinematographer. Lenses, film stock, different lighting setups etc. He almost seemed more technical rather than expanding on the story and characters... Almost.

I would hope someone with that kind of eye wouldn't accept a botched transfer. Also:

Wreckage and Rage: Making ALIEN3
Development Hell: Concluding the Story
Tales of the Wooden Planet: Vincent Ward's Vision
Stasis Interrupted: David Fincher's Vision

Xeno-Erotic: H.R. Giger's Redesign
The Color of Blood: Pinewood Studios, 1991
Adaptive Organism: Creature Design
The Downward Spiral: Creative Differences
Where the Sun Burns Cold: Fox Studios, L.A. 1992

Optical Fury: Visual Effects
Requiem for a Scream: Music, Editing and Sound
Post-Mortem: Reaction to the Film
Enhancement Pods
It's obvious they're not being biased regarding the troubled production of Alien 3. If anybody on GAF actually got their head out of their ass and listened to the extras for this film (also off Quadrilogy,) they'd know David Giler and a host of other people involved in the production absolutely railed against how the film-making process went down. He basically lit up a cigarette and went to town. Then there was the death of Jordan Cronenweth, Fincher's (completely understandable) eruptions, Terry Rawlings' modest approval of the final edit, the argument between Goldenthal and the sound editors regarding the use of certain SFX, on and on and on.

It's one of the harshest behind-scenes features I've ever seen Fox release. Then again, "The views expressed in this commentary do not reflect the views of 20th Century Fox..."

Anyway.

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buckfutter said:
Will probably fork out the money for the whole set... Alien and Aliens are the only essentials, but I have a soft spot for Alien 3. If only because it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be - it's just not really in the same ballpark as the prior films. It's the Ringo of the Alien series. Which I guess makes Resurrection the Yoko Ono.
And we will finally have the full documentary about Alien 3, which is the whole reason Charlie Deluzurka (spelling?) wanted to work on the DVD set in the first place.

The Digital Bits did a great series of stuff from their book about the making of this set.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/insidealien/index.html
 
Yeah, the Predator comparison pics are horrifying. But there are sections of the new disc that apparently look great. I have not seen it in person (too scared from the reviews) but some parts of the film do look good supposedly.

But as posted above, Bill Hunt from www.thedigitalbits.com has seen some of the new Aliens transfer, and has said it looks good. I think this might be a case of how they recolor timed the film much like Seven and The Matrix were done for their rereleases.
 
mckmas8808 said:
What's wrong with it?
Um, the wax mannequin on the left compared to the grizzled trunk of testosterone on the right. The image on the right does have excessive grain, but there is at least still detail and texture to the face. The image on the left has nearly no grain, but at the expense of fine detail by glossing over it all. It is horrifying.
 

NekoFever

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Maxrunner said:
I might buy the uk version of the anthology, i assume there wont be any differences between uk and us versions like the quadrilogy dvd where there was some stuff missing from region2 set.
There's a full UK spec list here and the US one here. Looks to be identical. The US one has nicer box art without the ugly Blu-ray banner and BBFC rating, but it's also quite a bit more expensive for some reason.

I'm happier about the transfers after reading the stuff on The Digital Bits recently. They seem to be implying that it's more a Criterion-level DNR job than the Photoshop smear filter that shit like the Predator re-release gets. Scott and Cameron are particular enough about the home presentation of their films - I've heard that Scott had a hand in getting that joke of a Gladiator transfer redone - that I don't think the ball will be dropped on these ones.
 

jmdajr

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StoOgE said:
The one on the right looks like a film.. the one on the left looks like a wax museum.

damn... how many movies are getting this treatment

it's like the early days of DVD when compression was just shit
 
Yasae said:
True. If you listened to his director's commentary on Aliens (the Quadrilogy version IIRC?,) he could damn near be a cinematographer. Lenses, film stock, different lighting setups etc. He almost seemed more technical rather than expanding on the story and characters... Almost.

I would hope someone with that kind of eye wouldn't accept a botched transfer. Also:


It's obvious they're not being biased regarding the troubled production of Alien 3. If anybody on GAF actually got their head out of their ass and listened to the extras for this film (also off Quadrilogy,) they'd know David Giler and a host of other people involved in the production absolutely railed against how the film-making process went down. He basically lit up a cigarette and went to town. Then there was the death of Jordan Cronenweth, Fincher's (completely understandable) eruptions, Terry Rawlings' modest approval of the final edit, the argument between Goldenthal and the sound editors regarding the use of certain SFX, on and on and on.

It's one of the harshest behind-scenes features I've ever seen Fox release. Then again, "The views expressed in this commentary do not reflect the views of 20th Century Fox..."

Anyway.

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Just hearing about this now, but this sounds amazing!
Can't wait!
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
Yeah, fuck that median filter they put on Predator Ultimate Shit Edition.

A lot of credible people are saying that the Aliens BD should look pretty badass, and Cameron's not an idiot when it comes to his area of expertise, so I'm not too worried.

Hey, if worse comes to worse, at least an un-fucking of a shitty release is not without precedent (see Gladiator).
 
madara said:
1 and 2 only thanks. Nothing and nothing else exists to me.
It is worth it for the set just for the documentaries on the making of the last two. I despise Resurrection, but the documentary on how it was made is fantastic. That is how I justify owning the last two. And we will finally get the full uncut version of "Wreckage and Rape" in this set. I am curious to see just how badly they badmouthed Fox in that lost 30 minutes.
 
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