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Andrew House: PS4 sold through 2.1 million units worldwide as of 12/1, 700K in EU/AU
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Wordddd
Acquiescence
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700k across both Europe and Australia? I expected more, which pretty much says to me that Sony undershipped and just can't manufacture the consoles quick enough. I suppose that's a good problem for them to have though, as long as PS4 demand doesn't drop off.
Good point playboi, you tell em how to do it BIG. Shoot for the stars! You should become their next CEO with amazing insight like that. ;P
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Oh you... You cad you..
We can expect Nintendo to cook system sellers and drop the price to a mass market level, which will give it a chance to reach 2nd place WW.
Ps4 is now sure to be the big winner this gen and I don't believe much in MS chances. They may do well in the US, but less than the 360. And they will do far worst in all other regions.
Considering the alternatives, their price point is insane.
Ps4 is now sure to be the big winner this gen and I don't believe much in MS chances. They may do well in the US, but less than the 360. And they will do far worst in all other regions.
Considering the alternatives, their price point is insane.
I'm more interested in the 400K additional to NA. When did THAT happen? The machines are hard to find...
Not again :\
Not again :\
Kutaragi was raving mad those days. Not only that they would have problems to find so many people to buy expensive console, but they did not have a slightest chance to manufacture that many consoles. Bluray drive was expensive and very hard to produce.
At this point think that Wii U can reach 2nd place is almost crazy... no, it's crazy.
explain plz?
Yeah, me and another GAFfer were debating this yesterday. The demand is there, at least in Europe. It seems like Sony are relocating PS4's to Europe in response to the demand.
Perhaps there's another 150k unit sales left in Europe before the years end.
It's less, 400k includes Latin America.
Nightengale
Member
Just want to share some point of views over these.
Is there inherent racism towards Japanese in China? I hate to stereotype, but yes, to an extent. It's something cultivated through decades of conservative upbringing that's very insulated, and creates negative perceptions of external cultures, with Japan being the main perceived negativity. And it's something that won't go away anytime soon, given how China's culture works.
But at the same time, it's not as bad as it sounds. There's an inherent racism against the Japanese in a very broad context, but it doesn't extend down to consumer lifestyles in very clear form. Japanese products do decently well in China, and there still exist a perception that Japanese and Western products are of a higher quality compared to local products.
It took a national agenda with the whole Senkaku/Diaoyu islands territorial dispute for there to be an active 'backlash' and 'racism' against Japanese automakers, which even after all that craziness, Nissan, Toyota and Honda still sell well in Japan. A lot of damage, but it's still doing decently well.
IMO, there wouldn't be a backlash against PS4 unless an agenda is raised about the matter.
That's not going to happen Wii U will end below GC sales.
Yes, but Wii U sold poorly.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Ship some more PS4's to Australia Sony you dicks. We pay BS premiums on everything so you might as well make maximum money.
Leaving fanboyism aside, don't you think that it is actually better for the industry that PS4 'wins'? I mean, Microsoft has almost a complete monopoly on PC gaming and on top of that they are selling games on Xbox One. If you ask me, that really sucks. Why would I have to own Microsoft's unstable and highly overrated platform to run my favorite PC games? Thats why I think, PS4 should sell more, way more units than Xbox One. Otherwise its a monopoly again. Also, I'm exited to see how SteamOS evolves. I'm going to be one of the early adopters for sure. I'm a linux user myself and IMO, PC gaming deserves better than what Microsoft offers with Windows. At least Sony uses its own proprietary OS...
Boombloxer
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GoW 3 was 5M. Ascension didn't do that well, but neither did Judgement, both are around 1M. Those are the flukes in my mind, no reason to assume that if the install base is there it won't hit those numbers again.
So no, you are wrong. But by all means just continue to spew bullshit, it's amusing.
More bullshit. Halo 4 was in the 4-5M range, which means Uncharted and God of War, and not close to GT.
Again, if you really dig deep, the exclusives even out for both sides.
Four_Chamber
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700k for Europe? Not that impressive considering expectations of some here.
Just shows you how much more important the US market is relative to the rest of the world. I expect Microsoft to have had monster Black Friday in the US.
Again, all of these early sales are pretty worthless in the long run. Both Xbox and PS4 have a LOT of early adopters- we'll see where the platforms go.
Just shows you how much more important the US market is relative to the rest of the world. I expect Microsoft to have had monster Black Friday in the US.
Again, all of these early sales are pretty worthless in the long run. Both Xbox and PS4 have a LOT of early adopters- we'll see where the platforms go.
airmangataosenai
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They didn't ship any noteworthy number of units to anywhere outside of Mexico. Canada will make up the lion's share of the non-USA American sales.
Prince Vultan
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2.1 million doesn't seem like a lot.
Must not be many gamers on planet Earth.
Must not be many gamers on planet Earth.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
In all seriousness the Vita deserved these ridiculously high sales way more than the PS4 does. It's a shame.
Devilgunman
Member
Are you talking about WiiU? That is insanely wishful thinking. WiiU is already dead in EU, almost dead in JP and barely alive in US. Yes, the only territory for the WiiU to sell is the main battleground between PS4/Xbone. Mario 3DW already failed to make any impact, only SSB and MK8 left. If those 2 still fail to help WiiU then it's time for Nintendo to quit the race.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
It really isn't going to catch on with the mainstream at £429 though. And absolutely no way is that going to happen if there is a rival product selling for £350.
This is what people are overlooking when they blurt out the 'oh but MS will be fine' line, with sales close enough to the PS4. That is not going to happen at the current price points.
MS are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can either cut the RRP significantly very soon (in March or April), forcing them to eat losses and add more fuel to the fire that the Xbox division is a loss-maker and needs selling off. But they will get close enough to PS4 sales.
Or, they can continue trying to advertise the XB1's value proposition with Kinect at the current price, but sit with a 1:3 market share, at best.
MikeE21286
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I'm really interested to see how this story plays out into June of next year. Not sure if software is there to sustain demand.
everyday math
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That's a lot of ps4's. Damn. Good job Sony.
Austriacus
Member
Latin america sales probably amount only to a maximum of 100k at best anyway so its 300k minimum on USA still.
Most people got no money here and the prices are very high.
nismopower
Member
That are really nice sales numbers. But for people like me without a preorder its extremely hard to get your hands on dat brand new smexy ps4....
My shop here in holland told me maybe(a big maybe) christmas, otherwise its going to be around march 2014....
Thank the gods for GT6, or else i would go mad...
My shop here in holland told me maybe(a big maybe) christmas, otherwise its going to be around march 2014....
Thank the gods for GT6, or else i would go mad...
heliconsoul
Member
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. They sold every PS4 they made, how is that not impressive?
Nightengale
Member
You mean the same thing everyone's been saying about the PS4 launch?
That there are nogaems, and it's all cross-platform games that no one in their right mind would buy a new console for?
Even though the best selling games for the 'new consoles' are said 'cross-platform' games like Ghost, BF, FIFA, Madden, etc?
The software is there, it's not just exclusive software.
You seems completely forget what happened to the start of PS3 when PS2 was kind of monopoly in the console gaming industry. Without MS/360, people had to purchase PS3 with 599 price tag for longer period because it is your only choice.
I really feel Sony is being very aggressive in America this time with PS4 against Xbox because Xbox is such a strong product in N.America. Sony is smart in going after that market first and foremost...they already know they have all of Europe. Yeah i know it sucks for people in EU wanting a PS4 but business is business and Sony is doing what it has to do to topple Xbox in all regions.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Lol that shit is so annoying.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
It is cheaper and is launching at the same time across the world. That alone is worth a 30-40m swing from Xbox to PlayStation.
There seems to be zero appetite within MS to fund another big loss leader to try and dominate the living room. Senior MS management seem to have realised the real battle lies in tablets and smartphones where they are being beaten comprehensively by Apple and Android.
Around 50k will be for Latin America. After that, I expect pre-orders are still being filled so I doubt very many of the further shipments actually went on general sale.
Agreed on the second point, the market should not reward failure, a PS2 style beatdown will serve consumers better than consumers rewarding MS for being cunts. It will make MS (or whichever company replaces them) less complacent next time and we will have a real battle on our hands. If consumers reward Microsoft's complacence then it sends a message that the shit they pulled is fine and they are welcome to try again next time. That is something we must avoid, and going by the mindshare, buzz and initial sales, I am confident that the market is going to react properly and we are heading for another PS2 style generation.
Greater China is one of Sony's top growth markets. If that latent racism against Japan exists in China, it doesn't extend to product purchasing decisions, like you said. Also, Sony are number one in the Chinese market for digital compacts and two other Japanese companies are two and three (Nikon/Mitsubishi and Canon respectively). I don't see it as a big issue.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
As a day one Vita buyer, no, it really doesn't.
No I don't forget, but now it seems that its the other way around, right?
digoutyoursoul
Member
Congrats to Sony, looks like both new consoles are off to a promising start especially PS4.
zeopower6
Member
I guess some people expected 3 million? I dunno.
The fact that preorders are backed up so far is more telling than the number sold imo.
MrBambinoDent
Member
Nice numbers, I guess they could have sold more than that if the supply was even better!
It is cheaper now, this can change.
RalliArtEvo
Member
Great numbers for sony! Will be interesting to see how well it sells after the initial launch period.
Devilgunman
Member
How many gamer do you think there are in this world? The best selling console of all time sold 155M. That's only a small fraction of world population. 2.1M is the most Sony can ship to retails.
Unlikely, even without Kinect the Xbone costs more to make than the ps4 does.
MikeE21286
Member
Well there's 8 years of pent up demand for new console hardware. Launch was going to be a success because the core gaming audience was going to make the transition into new hardware. That was inevitable.
The question now is does the rest of the audience that bought ps3/360 want to transition again to a new console? Or have they moved onto something else (phones, tablets, PC, etc.)
Oops.