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Apple Watch |OT| Apple invents the watch!
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The Elite
BOSS
Yeah, just glanced through it now.
That battery life makes me real nervous. 7% by 11pm? I have days that go longer than that.
Some non-tech site reviews:
WSJ: Apple Watch: The smartwatch finally makes sense.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-w...watch-finally-makes-sense-1428494495?mod=e2tw
NYT: Apple Watch Bliss, but Only After a Steep Learning Curve
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/09/t...ss-but-only-after-a-steep-learning-curve.html
WSJ: Apple Watch: The smartwatch finally makes sense.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-w...watch-finally-makes-sense-1428494495?mod=e2tw
NYT: Apple Watch Bliss, but Only After a Steep Learning Curve
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/09/t...ss-but-only-after-a-steep-learning-curve.html
The Elite
BOSS
It's almost like they are trying not to piss off Apple with some of these titles. The body of the NYT article hardly makes it seem like bliss. Especially the siri dictation issues and some of the apps flat out not working properly right now.
The WSJ article has a sub header that starts with "If you can tolerate its flaws".
Maybe they can fix this with software updates?
thought these snippets from the recode article were interesting
This is pretty big for me if it is somehow more accurate than other wrist monitors.
this is shit though:
why wouldn't it just be able to use siri on the phone, get a web result and show you at least the initial information? Hopefully they update that - being able to ask siri something when your phone isn't on you would be very handy (not including shouting across the room to siri when your phone is charging)
LyleLanley
Banned
Yeah, that seems to be a worrying theme. All the apps looked like they'll be annoyingly slow and unresponsive. People really should watch The Verge video, or another hands-on video, before deciding on buying one of these. The length of time it took just to load up the Evernote app was long enough that I could see it driving me crazy.
I didn't realise devs can't access the heartrate monitor. Does apple's fitness/healthkit allow other apps to get at that data? Eg so Apple does the capture but apps like myfitnesspal can read it? If not, then that is a big restriction - there are already lots of apps that work with each other, and being limited to Apple's solution wouldn't be great.
The Elite
BOSS
I was getting really tempted to order one this Friday despite the fact that I have a Pebble Time coming in May but I am starting to think I will hold off a year. I still ultimately want an Apple Watch though. I love the concept of smart watches and I think they are going to get it right.
Opus Angelorum
Member
The Verge review is quite damning (ignoring potential) and it still gets 7.
brotkasten
Member
Bloomberg (Joshua Topolsky): http://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...review-you-ll-want-one-but-you-don-t-need-one
The Elite
BOSS
Same here, I really like the idea of what the Watch does but with Apple it's always good to wait for the second or third generation before jumping in.
LyleLanley
Banned
For some reason I'm still tempted to buy one to mess around with. Maybe I'll jump in with the Sport version this year and then upgrade to something fancier once it's fully baked.
Dreadnought
Member
The pricing is outrageous. I'll be waiting for gen 2 anyway but still the goddamn pricing.
To get a black stainless steel watch you have to pay $1000 even if you don't want the band. Another thing, why do the bands cost more than the watch which has all the hardware and technology?
$500 for just the steel band, are you fucking kidding me? Who will buy this shit?
To get a black stainless steel watch you have to pay $1000 even if you don't want the band. Another thing, why do the bands cost more than the watch which has all the hardware and technology?
$500 for just the steel band, are you fucking kidding me? Who will buy this shit?
Haha, yeah, I noticed that too. Maybe there'll be cheaper bracelets from third-parties?
SuperPac
Member
For some reason I'm still tempted to buy one to mess around with. Maybe I'll jump in with the Sport version this year and then upgrade to something fancier once it's fully baked.
For my own use case, I plan to turn most notifications OFF for the watch. Nilay kept them all on for whatever reason. I don't plan to use many apps outside Apple's default stuff and maybe a few others - Evernote takes long enough to load on my iPhone just by itself or update its notification center list on my iPad.
brotkasten
Member
I can't say that I'm a fan of the design at all, but the steel band version looks the best, hands down. I think it's the bands on the Sport and Edition that make it look really bad.
I'm still waiting for reviews by Ars, GSMArena, Anandtech, MKHD, PocketNow... I'm also surprised that John Gruber wasn't at the Watch event and his review isn't up yet...
Was anyone given an Edition/Sport to review? (SuperPac would you segregate reviews by model when adding them to the OP?) I would really like to know if the Sapphire screen makes a difference... has any review mentioned visibility in sunlight?
Was anyone given an Edition/Sport to review? (SuperPac would you segregate reviews by model when adding them to the OP?) I would really like to know if the Sapphire screen makes a difference... has any review mentioned visibility in sunlight?
SuperPac
Member
Gruber wasn't at the event because he had a retinal tear and the fix grounded him from flying.
Yes I'll expand the review section later with quotes and details on what model if there are differences.
LyleLanley
Banned
It wasn't just Evernote though, even the glances felt like they took too long to load.
not great. You'd think it would have that information cached to be instantly displayed. Let me hit a button to refresh it if necessary - most stuff like weather doesn't matter if it is an hour old.
Pricing in the UK isn't too bad for the lowest model - about on par with something like the moto 360 with a little bit of Apple premium sprinkled on top. But it does sound like it needs more time in the oven - lets see what they come up with for next year's model, should be able to iron out lots of wrinkles by then.
VariantX04
Loser slave of the system :(
Welp. Hype deflated by the slow UI.
victreeb3l
Member
Yeah, hype is deflating after reading some of the reviews. I know its not a MUST HAVE, but the slow UI and location data stuff is really worrysome.
Might jump in if they make some software updates to fix these but otherwise I dont feel bad about not having this day one.
Might jump in if they make some software updates to fix these but otherwise I dont feel bad about not having this day one.
WSJ (Joanna Stern): What the Apple Watch Does Best: Make You Look Good
http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-w...-watch-does-bestmake-you-look-good-1428494694
also the other WSJ review mentions sunlight visibility (ok outdoors, not good in direct sunlight)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-w...-watch-does-bestmake-you-look-good-1428494694
also the other WSJ review mentions sunlight visibility (ok outdoors, not good in direct sunlight)
Lots of people seem to be running with "It's the world's best smartwatch, but...."
I feel like the tech for these things is just not here yet, particularly from a battery life standpoint. In two years these would have been huge, must-have items. Right now they're just "Oh, neat..."
I feel like the tech for these things is just not here yet, particularly from a battery life standpoint. In two years these would have been huge, must-have items. Right now they're just "Oh, neat..."
The Elite
BOSS
None of them have made a decent argument for why it's the "world's best" smart watch either. I have seen it implied in some reviews though.
I am looking forward to some legitimate comparisons.
i'm in the same boat. I have absolutely no interest in navigation, twitter, facebook, evernote(?!) on my watch.
it's all about music controls, notification handling and maybe Wunderlist (for grocery shopping) for me. And i hope those'll offer a reasonable performance.
Since i'll be getting the 38mm one anyways, i can just hand it down to my girlfriend if the 2nd gen really is a worthy upgrade.
i'm no more or less hyped about the thing than i was before the reviews.
the WSJ review put it somewhat accurately:
i'd replace "pioneers" with "enthusiasts" though. maybe even "fanboys". pioneers is almost as cringeworthy as "google glass explorers"
what irks me a bit is this focus on "The AppleWatch is a great device you don't need" in many reviews, since pretty much all of the latest gadgets are things we don't need. That's one of the charms of playing around with the latest consumer electronics, from a purely utilitarian standpoint, any iPhone 6 and Galaxy S6 review should have the "well, it's great but you don't really need it, if you have a phone from 2012 or newer." preface.
Maninthemirror
Banned
So far the review which was expected to be the least objective (verge) is the lowest scored and the ones expected to the most objective are rating it the best smartwatch with caveats
Gen 1 will get native apps aswell.
LyleLanley
Banned
A lot of the issues seem to come from the fact that most apps are actually running off of your phone. Perhaps when/if Apple actually allows developers to run apps on the Watch things will get better.
Yeah, nothing about the reviews makes me feel any differently about sitting out these watches at least for the first gen.
7 isn't really any great score for the Verge. Moto360 was like an 8 or something. Their score seems about in line with their review.
7 isn't really any great score for the Verge. Moto360 was like an 8 or something. Their score seems about in line with their review.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Looks like im waiting for the next iteration.
Maninthemirror
Banned
Did OG iphone get similar reaction ?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
No because there was nothing to compare it to. It was peerless
Welp, hype deflated. (thankfully) Slow UI, unresponsive watch face when raising your wrist, Siri fail, general UI clutter/quirks... I'll wait for second gen.
I absolutely plan on owning one at some point, but certainly not this round. I wonder how/when they do a refresh of a product line with so many different options.
I absolutely plan on owning one at some point, but certainly not this round. I wonder how/when they do a refresh of a product line with so many different options.
the verge video wrap up says how the apple watch is so much more powerful than other smart watches, yet talks constantly about how slow it is because it is always fetching data from the phone. Android Wear seems decently powerful - not that power is all that relevant really. Just seems an odd comment.
After watching The Verge's video review... yeah, this product is a big no for me. At least in this first iteration. It will be interesting to see, after the first year, how people feel about it and if it catches on, especially after more apps start coming out. But glances, the fact it has to load so much from your phone (slowly), the whole UI they came up with... nothing is resonating with me.
I'm looking at him bring up that transit app and all I can think is... no, I'd rather just do that on my phone and it would probably be faster, too.
I'm looking at him bring up that transit app and all I can think is... no, I'd rather just do that on my phone and it would probably be faster, too.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
Does anyone know if you have access to Notes and Reminders from the Apple Watch?
But you are assuming people are going to want an Apple watch in a year.