Well, one might argue that a launch FPS is a tad more strategic for MS than a racing title. It there was any chance that some sort of persuasion might come from them in any form, I would guess that it would come for BF4, not NFS.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Battlefield 4 PS4 runs at 720p native [DICE: Incorrect]
- Thread starter Horse Armour
- Start date
Well, one might argue that a launch FPS is a tad more strategic for MS than a racing title. It there was any chance that some sort of persuasion might come from them in any form, I would guess that it would come for BF4, not NFS.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
Have you seen bf4 multiplayer?
It doesn't take much effort to raise a couple settings on one version when the architectures are so similar to each other and PCs. The whole technical parity thing would actually require more work from devs since all things being equal would still result in PS4 having a performance advantage. They would have to purposely throttle frame rate. No one will do that. It would also require a lot of internal monitoring.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
Not surprising at all.
Nobody wanted to say it, but both consoles are underpowered. Calling it, 5-6 year cycle this time around.
Nobody wanted to say it, but both consoles are underpowered. Calling it, 5-6 year cycle this time around.
phosphor112
Banned
That's disappointing.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I recall something like that with all the HQ DX11 tabs turned up. I do recall toning down the blur to get closer to 30 but even in that first rail car sequence, my fps tanked hard at times.
The DF comparison article should be really interesting lol
fluffydelusions
Member
Yeah but BF games and Sony always had their little deal for early access to map packs like MS with COD.
fluffydelusions
Member
But KZ is only 24 players and no destruction, smaller maps, no vehicles etc
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Is it fair to think these titles were well in development before the increase ram inclusion on PS4, and that may play a factor here? It could be a launch game issue.
On a side note, as someone in another thread pointed out, accepting moneyhats to keep parity is a bad business model.
On a side note, as someone in another thread pointed out, accepting moneyhats to keep parity is a bad business model.
vpance
Member
540p? No way, can't be.
Yup, because the main difference between the two games is resolution.
I'm hoping it's just launch game syndrome and being stretched between so many platforms. Once PS3/360 get dropped I hope devs really pick up on the tech side for next gen.
yes, of course. 900p is much better than 720p, but still not as clear as 1080p.
900p would be acceptable for me -even with minor disappointment, given what we've seen what the game tries to do, console day1 etc.
but 720, not acceptable. not before hell freezes.
the game will be much more enjoyable on my pc. hell, even my laptop!!
so what i meant is the these stupid machines are not capable to do bf4 at 900p,
and its not a choice to display on older tv's like was mentioned, or that 900p does not offer much more detail than 720p. of course it does.
fluffydelusions
Member
I doubt it. These consoles are pretty much just like a standard PC and DICE knows there way around PC's quite well.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Seems disappointing. But I can accept it when everything else about the graphics is top-notch. I want ultra details and the best lighting and effects that they can squeeze out of this box.
RibbedHero
Member
The limitations that weak CPU imposes are rearing their ugly heads. Don't know why Sony and MS went with a netbook CPU. BF3 multiplayer was CPU heavy as is the case with large and complex MP games.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I think in the end we can all take that the baseline has gone up and next gen games will look even better by default but PC will still make these games fully shine and offer the benefits which PC has always been great for in mods, community fixes, etc.
Power consumption. I go back to KZ Shadowfall, it's not a finished game but looks really good. Infamous Second Son and several others. It seems like it's going to take a little time to get a grasp on these new platforms. Kind of like every generational leap.
But
Power consumption. I go back to KZ Shadowfall, it's not a finished game but looks really good. Infamous Second Son and several others. It seems like it's going to take a little time to get a grasp on these new platforms. Kind of like every generational leap.
'At launch' is the operative phrase, but not in the way you seem to believe. PGR3 was sub-720p at launch, PGR4 was 720p with better visuals a few years later.
Killzone looks a lot better as well...
Might be a quick port or smth and also it's a multi/cross gen title
Dictator93
Member
4XMSAA in metro really tanked the performance on all setups. Not surprising. THat was one of the future proofing settings in the game. TUrning uit off and turning off the Advanced depth of field would skyrocket your performance even with the rest of the DX11/very high settings on.
No, not really.
If their goal is to provide visuals like in the first Battlefield 4 Singleplayer demo, I can understand compromises being made.
I'll take this at 720p.
Go ahead, 720p is shit. One of the things I'm looking forward to the most for next-gen gaming is an overall improvement in image quality.
No, I wish people would stop bringing up KZ, its not comparable to the scale of a BF game.
KZSF might be a great game not arguing that its just not going to scratch my itch the same way that the theater of war created by dice does.
Eight damn years bro I want my 1080P 60FPS
OldAsUrSock
Banned
I don't r in 4xMSAA in matches that have more than 32 though.
fluffydelusions
Member
Everyone who keeps saying this needs to keep in mind BF4 also has destructible environments, bigger maps, more players, vehicles, dynamic water/weather.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
2/4 of my friends are getting it in my immediate PS4 friends list. I don't have any problem double dipping on this and enjoying the superior PC version since the console version will be pretty much identical in terms of features now other than the technicalities. Nothing wrong with that but I also don't blame you.
I have too many friends and family that do not even care to game on PC. They will be getting this on PS4 or Xbone before PC and they do not care about what we do.
You really have inspired me to reinstall Metro. I think I might do this later or sometime in the next few days
Agree.
Battlefield 4 =/= Battlefield 3
Watch the Battlefield 4 reveal demo again. If that's their graphical target, I can understand why the resolution might need to be dropped to 720p to have good performance.
60FPS@720p?
So I have approximately a x2 "supercharged PC" since last year...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUD5Rcybxw&list=TLDSLMbYwbV5c
So I have approximately a x2 "supercharged PC" since last year...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUD5Rcybxw&list=TLDSLMbYwbV5c
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Time for that Durante fix or surpersampling solution ported from PS3->PS4.
Not going to argue that, but these consoles are light years ahead of last gen. To listen to people talk about the tech the PS4 for example is a high end gaming machine. Just kind of baffles me that a studio like DICE can't get their game to run at 1080P and still look visually amazing on this new hardware.
I'm just tired of being stuck in the sub HD ghetto on some games. 720P is not HD.
I've got the feeling the PC requirements won't differ that much from BF3. Biggest difference would probably be the water.
I'm sure if they limit the multiplayer to 24 players and take out destructible environments like KZSF they would be able to squeeze out 1080p, but they aren't.
MrJustinius
Member
Yeah, I usually play 64 player Conquest which is the most demanding stuff the game can throw at you. I don't doubt I can run it at max on smaller maps like Metro or games with less than 64 players, but I aim for a smooth 60 on 64 player conquest on the most detailed maps.
excellent points to be fair. Maybe it will just take a bit more time to get to grips with these consoles. I can imagine that they are throwing this port together really, instead of it being developed from day one with the new consoles in mind
Gemüsepizza
Member
How exactly is resolution affected by CPU power? This is a GPU thing. And there are no netbooks with 8-core-Jaguars. Going with a multiple low-power CPU cores is a good idea when you have TDP limits.
Angelus Errare
Banned
SirButterstick
Banned
I wonder how this is going to affect Planetside 2 coming to the PS4. That game certainly takes a toll on CPUs.
Free downscaling on 720p screen its almost like supersampling
It'll be shitty b;urry supersampling though.
I guess that's possible. I am aware of the existence of 768p TVs but I always assumed the were rarer than 720p TVs.
Well this too, though I suspect this sort of thing wont be as big of a deal once we get past launch and devs really start optimising their code. I mean we saw a lot of 240i games around the PS2's launch but a year later that resolution pretty much disappeared.
its not trolling when its the freakin' truth!!
console disapointmenton!
pr bullshit can go bathe in their secret sauces and out of our way