Louis Cyphre
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Seems like a bad choice if there isn't cross platform competition. If there was, it would make complete sense.
This is what I was wondering, is this game cross gen online?
Seems like a bad choice if there isn't cross platform competition. If there was, it would make complete sense.
So is thread whining. Go to the Destiny alpha thread for gameplay impressions. Oh, closed... then the "vote here" thread will do.Graphics threads are seriously the worst.
So is thread whining. Go to the Destiny alpha thread for gameplay impressions.
This is what I was wondering, is this game cross gen online?
I realize I am probably in a minority here but I'd rather have 720/60 than 1080/30.
It seems that few developers have people like me in mind.
Graphics threads are seriously the worst.
It may be that the game couldn't get THAT much higher (hovering in the 40s maybe?) while also increasing resolution and texture detail (I swear that alpha had more detailed textures than I regularly saw on PS3/360), so they opted to just lock to 30 still. A lot of games updated for PS4/XB1 still weren't 60, not all the way through anyway, so it could be the same as something like Tomb Raider here. It may also be that the fps on PS3/360 is a hideous mess and so reaching a rock solid 30 is itself a massive improvement.I don't understand what being cross-gen has to do with the 30 FPS on the new gen versions. In fact shouldn't the fact that the game has been limited (co-op player count, world geometry...) so that it can run on last gen systems imply that it should get better performance, not worse, on the new gen?
I hope you understand that Luckey was speaking in terms of how the decision of going to 30 FPS is a failure, not the nature of 30 FPS itself.
Graphics thread whining posts are the worst.
The hardware can handle 60FPS though.There's only three reasons why someone chooses 30 fps over 60 fps:
1. The hardware can't handle 60 fps
2. They'd rather reallocate their resources into improving the IQ
3. Both
I don't really care at the end of the day. But that's the crux of it.
I've really enjoyed the Destiny alpha but playing at 30FPS does my fooking head in.
It feels horrible. It plays horrible. I actually doubt Destiny is running at a locked 30. It feels very sluggish.
It's going to be like the Xbox 360 version of Titanfall and Watch_Dogs - you won't see anything
No. And don't expect any last-gen versions or XB1 version footage until the beta release.
Can't wait for Destiny 2 for a true current gen experience.
I like to read these threads, and just sit back and smile. I played the Alpha, it was brilliant. A ton of other people played Alpha, and about 90% (Guessing here based on the Alpha thread) loved it. No one was complaining about "30 FPS is ruining my life! THANKS OBAMA." And then, the big revelation that everyone already knew came by: THE GAME IS 30 FPS and, oh.. dear lord... what is that... cross gen? Cross gen is holding it back?! The game must be terrible! 30 FPS because of cross gen?! Screw gameplay, story, anything, my frame rate isn't tapping 60FPS whenever I stand still so I can't play this!
It just seems rather silly to me, but who am I?
Every build of Destiny, on all four platforms, has been treated uniquely from the beginning. One example of that in practice is the recent 1080p res update for Xbox One.
Destiny looks great on all four platforms, and you'll get to see every one of them running live in Beta well before launch.
I like to read these threads, and just sit back and smile. I played the Alpha, it was brilliant. A ton of other people played Alpha, and about 90% (Guessing here based on the Alpha thread) loved it. No one was complaining about "30 FPS is ruining my life! THANKS OBAMA." And then, the big revelation that everyone already knew came by: THE GAME IS 30 FPS and, oh.. dear lord... what is that... cross gen? Cross gen is holding it back?! The game must be terrible! 30 FPS because of cross gen?! Screw gameplay, story, anything, my frame rate isn't tapping 60FPS whenever I stand still so I can't play this!
It just seems rather silly to me, but who am I?
Unfortunately, urk's posts in any Destiny thread doesn't get enough attention.As mentioned by urk, we'll have a chance to judge for ourselves, on our platform of choice with a product that is closer to the finished game come July.
I like to read these threads, and just sit back and smile. I played the Alpha, it was brilliant. A ton of other people played Alpha, and about 90% (Guessing here based on the Alpha thread) loved it. No one was complaining about "30 FPS is ruining my life! THANKS OBAMA." And then, the big revelation that everyone already knew came by: THE GAME IS 30 FPS and, oh.. dear lord... what is that... cross gen? Cross gen is holding it back?! The game must be terrible! 30 FPS because of cross gen?! Screw gameplay, story, anything, my frame rate isn't tapping 60FPS whenever I stand still so I can't play this!
It just seems rather silly to me, but who am I?
EDIT: Also, a lot of people are freaking out over this like it's some kind of scandal. Bungie is covering up the truth! They really didn't want the game to be at 60FPS! Bungie hates 60FPS! I think I'd prefer more post processing and locked 30FPS than 60, but whatever.
This is kind of an example of where a locked, stable 30 fps kind of is a big improvement. It'd be great to be 60 fps, but an open world game of that detail and at the frame rate it already has? Best to abandon all hope and be pleasantly surprised if wrong.I'm looking forward to seeing the thread that pops up if GTA V on XB1/PS4 is 30fps, haha.
I get that, but being cross-gen was the reason given for being 30 FPS, when in fact being cross-gen should have improved FPS on the new gen systems.It may be that the game couldn't get THAT much higher (hovering in the 40s maybe?) while also increasing resolution and texture detail (I swear that alpha had more detailed textures than I regularly saw on PS3/360), so they opted to just lock to 30 still. A lot of games updated for PS4/XB1 still weren't 60, not all the way through anyway, so it could be the same as something like Tomb Raider here. It may also be that the fps on PS3/360 is a hideous mess and so reaching a rock solid 30 is itself a massive improvement.
“It’s a lot of different things,” explains Jason Sussman who is the senior environment artist at Bungie. “I could get really technical, but I’d bore you to death.
Lol yeah, it seems like it plays fine at 30fps, but of course I could be possibly better at 60fps. But its still playable (and according to many fun).
I'm merely suggesting that ultimately we experience a game holistically and not in discrete separable segments.
I don't really see anyone hating on the game itself.
People are mad that the comment sounds like they are forcing framerate parity in order to give everyone (read: last-gen console players) the same experience.
In reality, that's probably not the case.
Either way, a smoother frame rate would make an already good game that much better.
*snip*
Well that is a surprise. Even watching the gameplay didn't look like a smooth 30.. yet the numbers remained locked at 30.
I would think it's more like "because I didn't want to embarrass the other students" when the question brought up the fact you took good notes, but they DID explain how they were trying to maximize effects on stuff on each platform and admittedly 60 fps can drastically alter the gameplay feel more than 1080p would. In a sense I guess that might be the real answer actually, they probably want to see what they can get in at 30 fps more than ensuring it's even across last gen and next gen.I get that, but being cross-gen was the reason given for being 30 FPS, when in fact being cross-gen should have improved FPS on the new gen systems.
It's like if you asked me why I failed a test in school and I responded, "because I took really good notes in class". The answer on the face of it is wrong and it brings up the question of why it was given.
Huh. Hopefully that's stomped out in final or even beta.Apparently the alpha had frame pacing issues according to DF.
A lot of these games probably wouldn't be profitable without Cross Gen.
Played perfectly fine at 30 FPS, not once did i think "Damn this doesn't feel good because it is 30 fps."
Ofcourse 60 fps is better but i don't really understand how people can get so riled up about it.
"60 fps is required for competitive multiplayer shooters'' : Obviously not, i've done alot of pvp in the alpha and it was awesome.
And wasn't Halo always 30 fps before the coming of Halo 4?
There's onlythreefour reasons why someone chooses 30 fps over 60 fps:
1. The hardware can't handle 60 fps
2. They'd rather reallocate their resources into improving the IQ
3. Both
4. None of the above. They don't want to favor one console over the other. (which is weak ass shit).
I don't really care at the end of the day. But that's the crux of it.
Stupid question, but why aren't developers focusing on for example 40- or 50 FPS if they can't bring it up to 60? Something to do with the refresh rate?
Been thinking about it lately.
I'm fine with this, there's no way I'm skipping Destiny after playing the alpha. Locked 30fps is the last thing going through my mind in a game that fucking good.
At least they're not claiming it's for artistic reasons.
That's a plus.