I can bring up any point I want in my posts and the dude I quoted implied that Destiny 2 will not look better than Destiny 1 because of the weak console CPU.So it doesn't? Bringing up the performance of an unreleased Rockstar title isn't gonna prove anything since their games have notoriously bad performance on consoles and PC.
I'm not annoyed by companies ensuring a game is playable across all platforms. I'm annoyed that games on more powerful systems are actually being held back for the sake of parity.
Don't punish those with the stronger systems just so everyone can experience the same thing. Build the game to be the best it can be for each system it is on.
<sarcasm>Right, because of the non-existent number of examples of cross platform current gen games that run worse on XB1 makes the idea that XB1 could be the issue absolutely impossible. </sarcasm>
what graphically demanding games have PS4 been running at 1080p/60fps? yeah exactly, so why would anyone have such expectation for this game?
In a lot of people's minds, it seems 1080p/60 is the only thing that makes something "next gen". I think people latch on to numbers (like framerate and resolution) because they're easier to compare than overall visual improvements.
For a game that is supposedly gonna have a very long life cycle its a shame they didn't just focus on current gen.
I doubt they are talking about the PS4 and PS3 versions having the same experience....I think you'll find the answer in your post. The push to get XB1 to run it at 1080p likely meant 30 fps (since very few XB1 games run at 1080/60), and they probably don't want the PS4 version to be blatantly superior.
OF COURSE THIS IS SPECULATION. But I believe this is absolutely a possibility.
Because they're admitting current gen consoles could handle more, but they're not going to try, because that would be unfair to those purchasing the game on last gen consoles. They're literally going out of their way to make the experience similar.what graphically demanding games have PS4 been running at 1080p/60fps? yeah exactly, so why would anyone have such expectation for this game?
Where in particular? In the gameplay reveal your ghost would move out ahead of you, lighting the way dynamically. And that's before swooping in and around rafters and railings and casting more intricate shadows everywhere.
Because they're admitting current gen consoles could handle more, but they're not going to try, because that would be unfair to those purchasing the game on last gen consoles. They're literally going out of their way to make the experience more similar.
Seriously, what are people not getting about this?
Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes / TPP
If it's 720p/30fps in PS360 there should be almost no trouble making this 60 fps, imo :/
what graphically demanding games have PS4 been running at 1080p/60fps? yeah exactly, so why would anyone have such expectation for this game?
I never liked BF3 on 360/PS3 due to its frame rate since it was actually designed to play at 60FPS and do believe that BF4 on PS4 looks far better visually due to the smoother frame rate which IS a visual thing. The difference to me is actually stunning.Ok, you tell me... since its clearly just MY opinion. What about 60 FPS would make a game look "absolutely stunning" in comparison to 30 FPS?
What aspect of the visuals are improved because of the frame rate that make it look "absolutely stunning" as was stated before?
Does Battlefield 3 not look "absolutely stunning" at 30 FPS when compared to BF4 at 60? What is so much better visually? Please tell me.
Another possibility: They could get the XB1 version to 1080p/30fps locked, but couldn't get the PS4 version to 1080p/60fps locked (which makes sense because it isn't twice as powerful as the XB1). Perhaps they had it running on the PS4 at 108p/45-50 fps (unlocked), and chose to lock it at 30 for more stable gameplay. This makes plenty of sense since most people prefer stable framerate to unlocked framerates (I personally don't like when the fps jumps around a lot).
This is also speculation, but isn't so much about them not wanting to release a blatantly superior version, but rather about them wanting both versions to have stable gameplay via a locked framerate (which is essentially what they're saying in their PR).
And, in this scenario, you're almost guaranteed to have a stable locked 30fps on the PS4 because it has a lot of room to work with before dropping below 30. The XB1 might have less leeway and could in theory drop below 30. Unless the XB1 has less effects going on, giving it more fps to work with.
Either way, PS4 owners in this scenario should be happy. They're going to probably get the best version no matter what.
Bungie has never targeted 60fps. I highly doubt they only did this because of last gen consoles, they just focused on other aspects.
Oh, I'm not saying they're in the right for doing this, and admitting to it. I was replying to someone who was suggesting that Destiny couldn't possibly run at 60fps and 1080p on current gen consoles.I get it. I just don't like it. Nobody should.
Please, the PS4 will have improved visuals over the X1, that alone disproves your conspiracy over. The X1 with a 10% boost gets 30fps/1080p, the PS4 is not double the performance of an X1.
Battlefield 4?what graphically demanding games have PS4 been running at 1080p/60fps?
That's 900pBattlefield 4?
Battlefield 4?
what graphically demanding games have PS4 been running at 1080p/60fps? yeah exactly, so why would anyone have such expectation for this game?
Nothing else needs to be said i guess.
Seriously, some games just shouldn't be released on PS360 anymore, it hurts more than it helps, imo
That's 900p
You're right - sorry about that.He said 1080p/60FPS, not 900p/60FPS.
50 fps really isn't something you want....or they could do 60fps on PS4 and 50fps on XB1 but without AF or something so they decided to just bolt them both down to 30fps together instead of bolting them both to 50fps w/o AF as advertising 50fps makes them look like idiots...
You'd expect a port of a last gen game to be 60 fps, their answer makes no sense
I would prefer it if they had sacrificed native resolution for a higher framerate though.He said 1080p/60FPS, not 900p/60FPS.
Were cross-platform, so we had to be very delicate with all four consoles, making sure they have the same experience,
Where in particular? In the gameplay reveal your ghost would move out ahead of you, lighting the way dynamically. And that's before swooping in and around rafters and railings and casting more intricate shadows everywhere.
I don't have a real sense of how computationally expensive that is on current gen hardware, but I know that I was looking forward to seeing some of that in the alpha, but never ran into it. Your ghost didn't light the way in the Alpha either - you just got this more muted flashlight effect.
I feel like canning PS360 versions would be smart for long term. They want this game to last for years -- they can't let last gen hold them back.
...or they could do 60fps on PS4 and 50fps on XB1 but without AF or something so they decided to just bolt them both down to 30fps together instead of bolting them both to 50fps w/o AF as advertising 50fps makes them look like idiots...
Where in particular? In the gameplay reveal your ghost would move out ahead of you, lighting the way dynamically. And that's before swooping in and around rafters and railings and casting more intricate shadows everywhere.
I don't have a real sense of how computationally expensive that is on current gen hardware, but I know that I was looking forward to seeing some of that in the alpha, but never ran into it. Your ghost didn't light the way in the Alpha either - you just got this more muted flashlight effect.
Don't forget that Planetside 2 is going to be 1080p/60fps, a MASSIVE and gorgeous game with hundreds of players and vehicles engaged in battles. I don't see what Destiny does that is any more demanding.
Can't wait for this argument to end after Uncharted 4 is out there.
I feel like canning PS360 versions would be smart for long term. They want this game to last for years -- they can't let last gen hold them back.