Vivalaraza
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Whilst this is true there is clearly a significant racism problem in football/soccer today in Europe and it needs to be addressed. It cannot just be a case of, well there's some shitty people in this world.
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Chelsea fans prevent black man boarding Paris metro train
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Whilst this is true there is clearly a significant racism problem in football/soccer today in Europe and it needs to be addressed. It cannot just be a case of, well there's some shitty people in this world.
If we are patient enough we might see someone trying.
On topic: I don't even know what to say. This is inexcusable and European authorities should reprehend this behaviour, identifying these people and serving them the appropriate punishment according the law. Unacceptable. Not to mention, these people weren't even in Britain.
FootballFan
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Can't get 3 point deduction in the champions league knockouts but I get what you mean.
Yep. There are no excuses. "Say no to racism" signs are not enough.
Nice to see Liverpool fans acting all high and mighty. This is the same club that had their manager Amd their players wearing a t shirt to support a known racist. Then their fans booed the player that was racially abused for having the nerve to complain. Don't even get me started on the rampant racism that goes on in the rest of european football involving whole stadiums filled with tens of thousands of fans.
But it's ok these tiny idiotic Chelsea fans truly represent the tens of thousands of Chelsea fans that attend the games.
But it's ok these tiny idiotic Chelsea fans truly represent the tens of thousands of Chelsea fans that attend the games.
The_Hitcher89
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Disgrace to the club, disgrace to the sport, disgrace to the country. The lot of them need a good leathering.
What's the maximum punishment you can get through the courts for verbal racist abuse?
@justjohn, minor point but the t-shirt thing happened before Suarez was found guilty. Not that it wasn't a fucking stupid thing to do regardless.
What's the maximum punishment you can get through the courts for verbal racist abuse?
@justjohn, minor point but the t-shirt thing happened before Suarez was found guilty. Not that it wasn't a fucking stupid thing to do regardless.
You should know. What did your star player get for racial abuse?
jts
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What about the booing of Evra after the guilty verdict had been announced? He's still hated at Anfield even now and his crime was to get himself racially abused by a Liverpool player.
Don't even get me started on Manchester United fans racially abusing ballotelli so much he had to quit Twitter. We can play this game all day fellas.
Daffy Duck
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Aabsolutely disgaceful behaviour, they've disgraced the club they support and the country they are from.
ReplacementPelican
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I'm hoping that moderate Chelsea fans will condemn the actions of these fanatics.
Miles Quaritch
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This after the John Terry incident is just disgusting.
No doubt some elements in the fanbase were emboldened when their captain got off for being a racist cunt.
No doubt some elements in the fanbase were emboldened when their captain got off for being a racist cunt.
Stereogatari
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Don't spoil the narrative. Only Chelsea's fanbase has a racist element and deserve to be generalised. The rest are doe eyed innocent angels.
yeah it's being conveniently ignored
Chelsea fans are more likely to just believe Terry's excuse, than defend racism I'd have thought. Same with Liverpool and Suarez. Even John Barnes defended him.
FootballFan
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Ahh yes. "look they did it too!" argument.
Liverpool fans can also mention:
- Chelsea fans booed Rio Ferdinand for defending his brother against a racist(John Terry - Chelsea captain).
- Chelsea fans sing "You know what you are" to Anton Ferdinand.
But that would be dumb because what is being discussed is these racist Chelsea supporters on the train. You should be focusing more on ridiculing them, and less on talking about Liverpool. I don't even get why you are picking out on Liverpool. What does that even have to do with anything.
I don't see any posts from Liverpool fans saying their club hasn't had its own issues with racism. So I just don't get where you are coming from.
Broder Salsa
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Of course there is and I didn't think that was his point. More that teams like lazio don't exist in the nfl.
Thornton Reed
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is it racist to say all chelsea fans are cunts?
MilkyJoe
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Stereogatari
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He's upset that people are using this incident to take a dig at Chelsea and Chelsea fans in general. Can't say I disagree with him there. People can hate Chelsea all they want for football reasons/Russian billionaire ownership etc., but to link that general Chelsea hate to a story about a racist minority of Chelsea fans is petty.
Alx
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Unfortunately the law doesn't have harsh punishment for people being assholes in the metro... There's not much that can be done, except looking at those people and despising them.
Broder Salsa
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We know what we are.
Broder Salsa
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FootballFan is an demented old man. Not worth wasting your time on.
Tim the Wiz
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Or you just happened to go to games where it didn't happen. Doesn't mean it wasn't happening elsewhere in the UK.
FootballFan
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Fair enough, I just wanted to get a better understanding by what message he was trying to get through.
Yay for personal insults. Nice.
Most Chelsea fans are great on GAF. Most.
It was pretty obvious that I was being anecdotal, not compiling all reports of racism over the years. The point is it's not happening all the time, but people seem to believe that it's everywhere after incidents like this.
Summer Haze
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Disgusting neanderthals.
Opus Angelorum
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And not one of the bastards would step off the train, real hard men.
Harsh of a lot of you to be vilifying all Chelsea fans/British fans/football fans. If you say all Chelsea fans are scum on the basis of the actions of a few who think all black people are scum... please try and understand the contradictions there.
Awful behaviour, nevertheless, and nice to see the club have acted quickly. Not shocked to see no one intervened (considering the threat of physical violence), but surprising there wasn't more of a police presence.
Awful behaviour, nevertheless, and nice to see the club have acted quickly. Not shocked to see no one intervened (considering the threat of physical violence), but surprising there wasn't more of a police presence.
The_Hitcher89
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He was hated at Anfield well before the Suarez stuff tbf
I agree that its disgraceful to boo him for reporting Suarez, but I don't really see why you're targetting me as though I think Liverpool's fanbase is perfect. Most fanbases have a section of despicable cunts.
Its silly to just point at everyone else though whenever your fellow fans bring shame upon the club. Its silly to paint all fans with the same brush. Chelsea don't want these fans representing them, I don't want our twattish fans representing me.
Thornton Reed
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Football really does bring out the worst in people.
I don't even know what it means to support a team in england anymore. Modern football team no more represent the area they are based than the local Sainsburys.
As i get older i'm getting less and less interested in football and stories like this just clarify my decision.
I have worked in football stadiums across the country and witnessed racism at every ground.
The worst was at old trafford i was shocked that the people around this guy thought he was a comedian rather than a bigot.
I have seen stewards at anfield tell someone to calm down after he called a player a black bastard.
I love the game of football but everything around it is rotten to its core
I don't even know what it means to support a team in england anymore. Modern football team no more represent the area they are based than the local Sainsburys.
As i get older i'm getting less and less interested in football and stories like this just clarify my decision.
I have worked in football stadiums across the country and witnessed racism at every ground.
The worst was at old trafford i was shocked that the people around this guy thought he was a comedian rather than a bigot.
I have seen stewards at anfield tell someone to calm down after he called a player a black bastard.
I love the game of football but everything around it is rotten to its core
Aztechnology
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What a bunch of pricks, the worst part, there's people on the train who just let that shit happen. I would of pushed those douches out from behind and chanted "No racists, no racists and that's the way we like it."
The_Hitcher89
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DontBeThatGuy
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You'd like to think you would do that, we all do but...
I'm pointing out everyone because some people are using this to bash the whole club and it's fans as if they don't have any skeletons in their closet. To me it shows they don't really care about racism just an opportunity to bash an opposition club. Also I wasn't targeting you; you were just a convinient Liverpool fan around for me to unload on. Sorry about thatHe was hated at Anfield well before the Suarez stuff tbf
I agree that its disgraceful to boo him for reporting Suarez, but I don't really see why you're targetting me as though I think Liverpool's fanbase is perfect. Most fanbases have a section of despicable cunts.
Its silly to just point at everyone else though whenever your fellow fans bring shame upon the club. Its silly to paint all fans with the same brush. Chelsea don't want these fans representing them, I don't want our twattish fans representing me.
I'm glad to see Chelsea have acted swiftly and hopefully those scum will be banned for life from Chelsea.
Kiraly
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Lol, against men (already the more hardcore subset of Chelsea's fanbase given that they travelled to foreign ground) incited by group psychology and high on alcohol and drugs, sure you would have.
Majority of fans are not like this and this incident is not the norm. In fact football actually does more to bring the races together than any other government programmer I can think of.
Aztechnology
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I truly believe I would have. It's not the first time. But who's to say... I wasn't there. It just infuriates me.
Thornton Reed
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its not like how it used to be where it was local people from the area where you lived are representing you and your city or town on the pitch.
You knew the players, you grew up with them, you played against them as kids.
It feels like the community aspect has gone.
Stereogatari
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A very melodramatic, sensationalist and hyperbolic reaction.
It people want that, it's still there, the lower leagues and amateur football still exist.
Saying the community aspect is gone is a stretch, I still feel very much connected to my fellow fan, the players and atmosphere when I go to Chelsea games. It's a modern world, it's international, it's digital etc. but there's still a common feeling.
The change in top flight football is just a subset of globalisation at large. Shall we only watch British films, eat British food, buy British products?
Thornton Reed
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I worked in football stadiums for 3 years across the north of county i saw it week in week out, it was the norm
Thornton Reed
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i stand by my rotten to the core statement just look at the state of fifa
Hooligans. Despicable cunts.
Well in the US he would have been shot by the Police for trying to board a almost full train while black. So there's that.
SlickShoes
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It's like people forgot what the Chelsea fans had a reputation for when Abramovich brought in his money.
Every club in this country has problems with racism, you would have to have your head buried in the sand and never attend a game if you think otherwise.
Even the most progressive clubs will have a small minority of vocal idiots, as soon as a song or chant becomes popular younger impressionable kids join in as well as other idiots.
It's and easy thing to spiral out of control quickly and other fans around these people need to step up and challenge them when they do things like this.
Every club in this country has problems with racism, you would have to have your head buried in the sand and never attend a game if you think otherwise.
Even the most progressive clubs will have a small minority of vocal idiots, as soon as a song or chant becomes popular younger impressionable kids join in as well as other idiots.
It's and easy thing to spiral out of control quickly and other fans around these people need to step up and challenge them when they do things like this.
No, of course there's racism in America and of course it exists in sports fan.
I'm saying that you don't really have those clubs who has, how shall I say, racist flavor, who tend to attract racists, which does exists in Europe.
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