angelic
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Why would someone dislike a race of people but enjoy their culture? It makes no sense.
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Conor Mcgregor mentions Rocky III "dancing monkeys"; says meant circus-like celeb gym
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Why would someone dislike a race of people but enjoy their culture? It makes no sense.
Mister Wolf
Member
I wonder why Kimmel took the video down?
It doesn't. And yet...
The fuck?
Your post is offensive by trying to say a guy took Reggie and turned it into Regginator.
You're literally saying, Rotanigger is "a lil offensive".
You're trying to say that if you reverse his name, and the word "nigger" is in there, that is just a "lil offensive"
This is the kind of obtuse trolling that is offensive, because you have to use racial shit (something that matters in real life) instead of just stupid stuff like video games and anime (stuff that doesnt matter in real life).
in reality, nobody should have to explain that Reggie is a common name, especially on a gaming site. Regginator would be a common permutation of that name. because in reality, the troll is trying to offend somebody by calling them a covert racist, and also offend every other liberal minded person who might care. SAD!
Steve o 3000
Banned
Nah. They are both dumb as shit.
No idea why people can't comprehend a racist having a black friend or liking parts of black culture can't be racist.
Even when it's a interracial couple, racism comes out.
ThirtyPlus
Member
A classic play straight out of the Racism Apologist's Handbook.
Mister Wolf
Member
You must be pretty young.
Regardless of the age, dude is naive as hell... at best.
Chuck Norris
Banned
I'm sure there was a point in time where people said something like "Why would I dislike black people, my house maid is one and I love her cooking!"
You can certainly be a full blooded racist and still enjoy "services" black people provide
Syphon Filter
Banned
Why are you looking at my post history? You act like you aren't biased yourself lol.
Goddamnit.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Meh. I like my carny face punching match with a dash of ignorant fuckery. Keep it coming Conor.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Woooo. So Syphon Filter's 1 comment, in a 14 page thread, is evidence in a thread about Conor's antics? And the fact that you are asking me to look at this one poster history to make that claim is laughable.
Chumley, you were more entertaining when you were stanning for the forever friend zone guy.
Naw, I base it on a history the guy has with saying racially charged shit. No giving him the benefit when he said all the shit he has said in the pass PLUS the fact that he called Mayweather a boy and requested he dance for him, before quickly pivoting to "son".
Deuce Deuce
Member
We've somehow gotten ourselves to a point where we rank degrees of racist based on the amount of privilege the victim has. It's interesting at best.
angelic
Banned
I'm not young, but it does make no sense! I'm a white male, I find racism utterly ridiculous, absurd, it's a joke that it even exists in the world. Most of the music I like wouldnt exist if it wasnt for black culture, I find it staggering that someone could be a racist in 2017. The whole concept of it is utterly stupid.
I really dont think Conor is one, the video went down before I saw it but as someone else says, apparantly he's not referring directly to black men as monkeys, and I give him the benefit of the doubt. I watched him KO Aldo in the 13 seconds it took, and afterwards, before Big John raised his arm, he gave Also a wink and thumbs up, a gesture of respect, basically saying that before all his WWE promo stuff kicked in...good fight mate, respect.
I dont think he's racist, and I think he respects black athletes immensely.
It's at the very start of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kmp7r3f0z0
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about, and you're being willfully obtuse. For the record, I was referring to Syphon Filter calling Floyd's DV record a bunch of bullshit allegations drummed up by his kid.
I don't have to look it up, I remember the post. It was MRA tier shit that normally gets people banned. You gonna pretend like it never happened?
This is embarrassing
You live in this bubble where you refuse to believe the most blatantly racist things are racist just because it's 2017 and it doesn't make sense to you.
Chuck Norris
Banned
All fair, save it for moments like "boy" which are obvious. Instead of "potentially he meant this... if he misremembered this and this... and was actually meaning this part of this movie that actually had black people in it"
SyenceLabb
Member
You think you don't live in a bubble? Sincere question.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Syphon Filter stanning for Floyd is the crux of your argument. He is one poster and an outlier in this thread at that. We have multiple people trying to reason as to why Conor might be "misunderstood" or whatever.
We didn't get to the thread we have right now because 1 lone Conor fan was defending his honor so why do you keep pointing to one person? And again, what do those allegations have to do with THIS thread?!?!
Willfully obtuse...good grief, man.
C'mon man. Conor isn't an idiot. He knows he gave himself some wiggle room by being "unclear" which movie it was and if it had "dancing monkeys".
He likely knows damn well there isn't a single Rocky movie with "dancing monkeys" in it.
It's not just him. It's everyone who said they love Floyd, think what he did is the same, etc. etc. and the list goes on. You're willfully obtuse as fuck. Read the thread.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Racism DOES NOT have to be race hatred.
nvm, post history is a beautiful thing
Psychoward
Banned
jesus christ
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt that some of the posters in here didn't know about Floyd's racist comments, but there is a lot of people even in the first page supporting Floyd in the fight over Conor because of these remarks.
Most of the tale end of this thread is because of all the dumb shit Angelic has been saying.
angelic
Banned
I dont consider enjoying an artists work, or watching an athlete I like, as them providing "services". Black music pretty much influenced everything that exists today, from artists in the 50s and 60s stealing from blues, and right through to modern day culture. You can't separate the two, so much of mainstream culture has black roots, that people would have to be complete idiots to not see that.
Admittedly, some people are idiots, but anyway.
Deuce Deuce
Member
In case you're being serious...I can assure you with 100% confidence that there are people into "black people stuff" that will turn around and drop an n-bomb when pushed. And they'll say it with the same level of intensity, fear, and hate as any "real" racist.
Psychoward
Banned
warmer
Tell that to Donald Sterling
angelic
Banned
well, those people are uneducated fools.
sir_kevith
Member
He's saying racist shit on purpose to get a rise out of people. If he's saying racist shit then he's racist. Him and Mayweather don't care cause they're both gonna make a lot of money if they sell their fight as a black and white thing but he's racist for even saying this shit.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
It's not just one person acting like Mayweather's not a shitty person, and it's not just one person acting like McGregor's not a racist.
Not sure how you expect to be taken seriously by other posters when positing either.
Not sure how you expect to be taken seriously by other posters when positing either.
Lol
Chuck Norris
Banned
Yet racism still exists
Heck, there are issues with you bubbling down racism into whether people like components of music or athletics. Racism is far bigger than the jobs and successes certain people hold.
As is boxing black people into certain sub-cultures like "athletics & hip hop". It's not much different than saying "I love accountants" when referring to Asians. It's a ridiculous statement that really has nothing to do with the race, and really derives from prejudice and stereotype.
ryutaro's mama
Member
The difference is, I don't see people saying shit like, "Well, when he said 'yellow' and 'sushi' to Manny, how do we know that he meant..." responses like I am seeing for Conor. If people are willing to lay out for Mayweather, knowing he has said and done some vile shit in the past, that is on them.
The one thing I have remarked on is, while we might be seeing people align themselves with Mayweather, I don't see people on a large scale attempting to minimize or contextualize his words.
People at best, are acknowledging that shit and saying, yeah but I don't care. Conor fans are trying to spin his words into "anything but racism".
Messofanego
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Is anyone falling for angelic's supreme levels of devil's advocate so he can excuse Conor's shit? Bringing up countries and how "dance for me, boy" isn't racist in the UK even though racism is still a thing in the UK and saying that specifically has racist connotations back in slavery times. "Dance for me, boy" is not at all equivalent to "sit down, son". All Conor needed to add was a southern drawl and the racism would be whip cracker levels of obvious. Dude even went to defending his colonialism ("if this was a different time...") statement!
I own this town, I own Rio de Janeiro. If this was a different time, I would invade his favela on horseback and would kill anyone who wasnt fit to work. But were in a new time, so Ill whoop his ass instead."
"When I'm done, I want to turn his favela into a Reebok sweatshop.
The only movies with actually dancing monkeys would be Wizard Of Oz or some shit. And I doubt Conor is about that early Hollywood musical life.
Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're only defending a racist because you're not that well informed at how many things can be racist and how having black friends doesn't excuse your racism. Racism doesn't need to be only violent levels where until Conor says nigger or lynches a black man that's only when he can be considered racist. You don't need to see in his heart of hearts that he's a good person. Good intentions don't mean much when your actions are racist. Actions speak volumes. We're criticising his racist actions. We don't need to read minds. Your arguments for him not being a racist are kind of flimsy and very old-school tactics when defending racist actions, that's why no one is being convinced by your stance. You can believe he's not a racist all you want, while you gotta accept that there are people who believe him to be a racist and have explained to you in enough detail why.
I own this town, I own Rio de Janeiro. If this was a different time, I would invade his favela on horseback and would kill anyone who wasnt fit to work. But were in a new time, so Ill whoop his ass instead."
"When I'm done, I want to turn his favela into a Reebok sweatshop.
The only movies with actually dancing monkeys would be Wizard Of Oz or some shit. And I doubt Conor is about that early Hollywood musical life.
Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're only defending a racist because you're not that well informed at how many things can be racist and how having black friends doesn't excuse your racism. Racism doesn't need to be only violent levels where until Conor says nigger or lynches a black man that's only when he can be considered racist. You don't need to see in his heart of hearts that he's a good person. Good intentions don't mean much when your actions are racist. Actions speak volumes. We're criticising his racist actions. We don't need to read minds. Your arguments for him not being a racist are kind of flimsy and very old-school tactics when defending racist actions, that's why no one is being convinced by your stance. You can believe he's not a racist all you want, while you gotta accept that there are people who believe him to be a racist and have explained to you in enough detail why.
Deuce Deuce
Member
It's pretty common. And there are even more people who are "down" and hold racist beliefs and/or casually drop n-bombs/monkey jokes all sorts of shit.
It doesn't make them the worst people in the world, but they do have a problem that needs to be addressed. And the torch and pitchfork mobs on the 'net aren't particularly productive either.
I know this because I've heard some "interesting" confessions from white people
Trojita
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I agree there is too many people minimizing or contextualizing his words. It's the same shit you see like when people were defending the cop not pulling the dog off the black guy that was already handcuffed.
After typing this up I did a search to see if Mayweather's comments ever had a thread made about them.
They did
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406206
And yes there is people minimizing and handwaving the racist shit he said too.
Edit: Also lol at posts saying Pacquiao would kick his ass.
angelic
Banned
Well clearly im niaeve, because I find racism such a ridiculous and unpleasant stance to take. But I genuinely don't think Conor is one. There is no way he used "dance for me boy" in a racial way, he's trying to insult Floyd but not racially. Purely for business reasons alone he knows that would destroy his fight deal.
Thank you ryutaro and messofanego for doing the work of true champions. I appreciate it!
Damn it. Funny way of apologizing.
Yet still doesn't excuse the discussion that his comments started. If anything that just shows you can't say some racist shit without being misunderstood as a "racist".
If he thinks black women are beautiful and is proud of having a big dick or whatever other stuff he envies of black people, then he probably knows that saying racist shit is not the way to convey his respect.
Damn it. Funny way of apologizing.
Yet still doesn't excuse the discussion that his comments started. If anything that just shows you can't say some racist shit without being misunderstood as a "racist".
If he thinks black women are beautiful and is proud of having a big dick or whatever other stuff he envies of black people, then he probably knows that saying racist shit is not the way to convey his respect.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Are you going with that you are so far removed from racism that you can't see racism?
Also you are naive about the latter.
LlamaJohnson
Member
So Conor may very well be a racist shithead. Yet, when I hear the term "dancing monkeys" from Rocky III, I thought he was talking about this:
https://youtu.be/6yl8SOubNvA
It's shitty quality, but it's the exact place where they could be considered "dancing". If you look at it this way, is calling Sylvester Stallone a dancing monkey racist? We're trying to determine what he was thinking, which is impossible unless he clarifies. I think you could take it both ways.
https://youtu.be/6yl8SOubNvA
It's shitty quality, but it's the exact place where they could be considered "dancing". If you look at it this way, is calling Sylvester Stallone a dancing monkey racist? We're trying to determine what he was thinking, which is impossible unless he clarifies. I think you could take it both ways.
Lol nope
angelic
Banned
Of course not.
Just watched the video "was that the one with the dancing monkeys in the gym". Hmm, not great, that is quite specific. I await his explanation but I'll be very dissapointed if he meant it like that. Very dissapointed.