phosphor112
Banned
How do they get away with this shit?
"Exclusive to Xbox 1! Also coming out on PC and Xbox 360! Ignore that it's even announced for PS4 as well!"
Isn't that false advertisement? First "most powerful console" than this? Seriously?
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CVG: Microsoft to reveal 'major 3rd party game' comes free with X1 [MCV: FIFA 14]
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How do they get away with this shit?
"Exclusive to Xbox 1! Also coming out on PC and Xbox 360! Ignore that it's even announced for PS4 as well!"
Isn't that false advertisement? First "most powerful console" than this? Seriously?
Krusenstern
Banned
That's a trick. Xbox isn't launching in Norway this year.
Let's stop with the GAF hivemind comments (as well as meta-commentary of hypothetical events) please. Not only is it a pointless exercise but it's derailing the thread.
Do continue to discuss your opinions on what this rumored collaboration could mean for Microsoft and how it may affect marketplace competition.
Do continue to discuss your opinions on what this rumored collaboration could mean for Microsoft and how it may affect marketplace competition.
yeah, no shit. Sony has always overpriced PlayStation at launch in Norway. The same goes for EA games.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I think reasonable people don't see this as a negative. I don't. Free game is a free game. However, I think it does open up an interesting discussion about how effective this is, and also about the state of pre-sales in Europe for the Xbone to trigger such a move. That's where I think most of the discussion is taking place.
Personally I think it is a waste of money if in fact we are to believe MS and that preorders for the Xbone are sold through, because then they are just giving away games to people already buying. However, if we look at other reports that show how the PS4 is outselling the Xbone everywhere, in some areas 8-1, then perhaps they aren't selling through stock and needed something like this to try and catch up. Even then it is fair to question the viability of that tactic.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Miles Quaritch
Member
For some people sure.
Uno Venova
Banned
Still, that doesn't explain including Destiny in that exclusive list.
Thanks.
2014 Norway release: Priceless.
Wickerbasket
Member
He meant Destiny, I believe.
This isn't good will, this is a bribe. It's how MS has planned to push the XB1 all along.
Don't like DRM? Well XB1 has Halo, bought timed exclusivity of Titanfall, etc. They then saw that those weren't enough to overcome DRM and backtracked, but originally their presumption was that consumers were all mindless whores who'd bend over in order to play a handful of worthwhile titles.
It's the same as their perpetual deal for CoD timed exclusivity on new content, the similar deal they struck for GTAIV content last generation, and what they've now paid for with both Battlefield 4 and FIFA.
None of this adds to the industry. None of it creates new meaningful content. Shit, it doesn't even employ more developers. It builds arbitrary walls and that's it.
MS' strategy to win video gamers is powered by cash handouts and lawyers. Sony's is powered by new game budgets and developers. Why does it surprise you that a hardcore community like NeoGAF can see through their bullshit and therefore refuses to take the bribe and forget just how anti-consumer they are, were, and will continue to be?
Maximilian E.
AKA MS-Evangelist
Like many already have stated, it does not make any sense to bundle FIFA14 with Xbox One, if you can get the same game + PS4 for cheaper (considering that Xbox One will be more expensive).
I can easily imagine MS and EA struck a deal of X time next-gen exclusive (but that it anyways would be release on current gen machine).
Because we can easily assume that EA will earn the most from their 360/PS3 versions thanks to installed base.
So, in order for this deal to be the most effective would be I don´t know, 6 month to 1 year exclusive on next gen, meaning that no FIFA14 on PS4...
Something like this it has to be, anything else would not make an impact...
EA will anyways laugh all their way to the bank thanks to the millions in sales they will do in 360/PS3/Pc platforms.. + the money MS must have spent for it.
EA can´t lose doing this..
but yeah, we need to see what kind of deal this is..
I can easily imagine MS and EA struck a deal of X time next-gen exclusive (but that it anyways would be release on current gen machine).
Because we can easily assume that EA will earn the most from their 360/PS3 versions thanks to installed base.
So, in order for this deal to be the most effective would be I don´t know, 6 month to 1 year exclusive on next gen, meaning that no FIFA14 on PS4...
Something like this it has to be, anything else would not make an impact...
EA will anyways laugh all their way to the bank thanks to the millions in sales they will do in 360/PS3/Pc platforms.. + the money MS must have spent for it.
EA can´t lose doing this..
but yeah, we need to see what kind of deal this is..
Napalm_Frank
Member
I kinda want US Bone to be bundled with Ryse ಥ⌣ಥ
Angry Puppy
Member
These slow pushes toward positive things is helping microsoft a lot.
jordan0386
Member
Well put
BishopLamont
Banned
Destiny isn't exclusive. MS has been doin this shit for awhile now.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Ultimately this does not matter one bit, never has.
The Xbox One will be a hit.
Yeah I thought he meant Titanfall, my bad. Could be a mistake? Oh, it's Microsoft it can't be?
Nymphae
Banned
How exactly does saying they caved on DRM carry negative connotations? To me it's positive news. The only negative here is that they stared us straight in the eye and said you are going to take this and love it and there is no other way (DRM, Kinect), only to go back on their words again and again. That's worth some negativity in my book, and ANY company would be hearing it if they did the same. But still, the changes are positive and most rational people here see that.
Nightengale
Member
Yes, given that we still don't know what this applies to.
Be assured that if this FIFA 14 pack-in eludes Asia ( also big on FIFA ), MS is once again asking to forget ever being relevant here. ( obviously they don't care, so whatever )
What countries are getting this? How long? Any 'caveats'? Restrictions?
Iacobellis
Junior Member
They better fucking not do this. I was looking forward to playing FIFA on my shiny new PS4 come October.
Red Liquorice
Member
lol. This alone should wipe away any bad feelings and guarantee them top spot in the UK.
For anyone who likes football that is.
For anyone who likes football that is.
SwiftDeath
Member
I don't want to be argumentative but I'm curious why MS would choose to do this over a price cut
So possible reasons I can think of (please suggest any rational alternatives):
1. Don't want to drop price as you are stuck at that price or lower
-> I.E. They can always take the pack-in game out at some point to cut costs
2. Want the promotion to be region-specific so a price cut would look bad versus other regions but a free pack-in game other regions don't care as much about maybe not
-> Mainland Europe has always been a hard xbox sell so Fifa helps I'm sure
3. Somehow this deal is cheaper than a price cut. Game is 40 GBP or higher.
-> Certainly would get wholesale prices as it'd have to be a deal for several million licenses right?
Other thoughts?
So possible reasons I can think of (please suggest any rational alternatives):
1. Don't want to drop price as you are stuck at that price or lower
-> I.E. They can always take the pack-in game out at some point to cut costs
2. Want the promotion to be region-specific so a price cut would look bad versus other regions but a free pack-in game other regions don't care as much about maybe not
-> Mainland Europe has always been a hard xbox sell so Fifa helps I'm sure
3. Somehow this deal is cheaper than a price cut. Game is 40 GBP or higher.
-> Certainly would get wholesale prices as it'd have to be a deal for several million licenses right?
Other thoughts?
Zatoichi's Cane
Member
Good on them for trying to paper over the cracks with a game and if it actually works then I guess it was worth it. I wonder how much money they'll lose with this little stunt.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Ya i agree. If you look at what xone included just a few months ago and what it includes now, its a much better product and not to mention much better value. What started has 100$ more for something people apparently didnt want is now 100$ with a game and kinect. Add to that the included headset, the 180 no one seemed to like and some people are still desperately reaching to find a reason to hate on it. Its fucking sad coming from people in this forum. NeoGaf was supposed to be better than that. Guess not.
Chobel
Member
WTF?! since when is destiny only coming to XBox One? And if it's not, How the hell did they got away with this false advertising?
Garrett 2U
Member
I'm expecting a game for US too now! Or a price cut. Or some store credit. You can choose Microsoft.
Lol
fastford58
Member
Adding actual value instead of arbitrary value. Good score for MS.
Vire
Member
mohsinkhan
Member
It is now cool to hate the xbox one
I will buy one at launch
I will enjoy my free game
I will enjoy kinect
I will enjoy my console
I will buy one at launch
I will enjoy my free game
I will enjoy kinect
I will enjoy my console
Wickerbasket
Member
And? It's true. It shits up the thread.
It's not Sony favoritism to point out that the PS4 is still the cheapest console to play FIFA on, nor that it will have FIFA available to play first.
It's just tiring to see Xbox fans complaining about stuff that doesn't exist.
I don't think their FIFA license would allow them to not release on PS4.
The only time Microsoft cared about Norway was when they bought Fast. Even Apple care more about the Norwegian market.
Still not convinced this isn't just for the countries that recently got delayed.
Would make sense if you add in Greenberg's tweet about the "Wait and see at GamesCom" when he was asked about the delay.
I'm sorry I have to comment how do you know that the majority of people don't even care about the camera for the PS4?
You're not the first person to say it on here but the people who do, say it with such confidence they must have some secret figures on next gen that everyone else hasn't.
shinra-bansho
Member
Seriously. It's not happening. And EA are still laughing all the way to the bank.
How dare you enjoy it!
BishopLamont
Banned
Really, a mistake? When they put the time and research into putting the TItanfall footnote and the fact that they have been doin this shit for awhile now? Come on.
Yeah this worries me the most, I don't think there's any company more transparent with their greediness than ea/ms in the industry. Yes I know every company is greedy, but there's some stuff that is just pure cash grab.
I wouldn't call it bad, just a bit... weird.
I don't know how many people are of the "I like the Xbone more not 100 more, but certainly 40+FIFA more" type, but at least in my opinion, it can't be that many.
On the other hand, the deal with EA probably isn't cheap and MS can risk alienating retailers (depending on what they're doing on that front).
It just doesn't seem worth the hassle. Okay, maybe it works, but I personally don't see anyone persuaded towards a Xbone who was really undecided before.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Poster in question doesn't care = everyone doesn't care.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Fine. Microsoft are the spawn of the devil.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
The part of the rumor I don't see discussed much is the bit about possibly the US getting a pack in game as well. If this move costs Microsoft money then it is going to cost Sony as well as they certainly can't let MS toss in a pack in game in two major territories at launch. I expect some sort of announcement before launch.It also pushes Sony to pay for a mega seller to match MS. I just hope gamers get their free game Day 1 and don't have to wait for it as this all seems a bit rushed.
phosphor112
Banned
Except it says this...
It's not only on Xbox 360 or Xbox One, it's also on PC. So that alone makes it false.
It's also on PS4 (and maybe PS3? Idr). So labeling it as an "exclusive" is just straight up bullshit.
It's bullshit like them claiming to be the "most powerful console ever made."
"But da cloud." Except, not all Xbox's are guaranteed online now. Not only that but IF they were allowed to include the "cloud" processing as part of the in box product description, Google would be able to list any and every android phone as the most powerful as they have the largest "cloud" network in the world.
But they don't, because they aren't full of shit.
Yes, I'm mad. It's blatantly wrong and yet they keep trying to get away with this shit.
Nightengale
Member
I think he meant deals of a similar scale.
Ubisoft and Sony are obviously good friends, sharing a couch, eating popcorn together. MS/EA are super-tight.
If The Division is a timed PS4 exclusive, then we can start talking about it being 'similar deals'.