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Digital Foundry: Nintendo Switch CPU and GPU clock speeds revealed

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"It can be as powerful as a Nokia 3310 for all I care, we'll still be getting Nintendo games and that's all that matters guys!"

When I had the most fun with a 2d game this year that could be run on practically every computer out there then yes, fun games are ultimately what matters to some folks. Sometimes I enjoy top of the line graphics in games as well but if the game is boring then no amount of pretty graphics is going to interest me. This is coming from someone with a high end pc as well. Its funny though a lot of people with high end pcs joke about how they spend most of their time playing games with simple graphics and therefore aren't getting the most out of their computers.
 

Somnid

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If you could stuff an Xbox One into a handheld system don't you think MS would have done it instead of releasing the S? Just saying, let that reality soak in. That's not a bad thing either considering Switch is like 1/10th the size.
 
Ok I knew all along this would not be massively powered compared to today's gen! BUT I was told it would be super cheap which is what nintendo wants. Plus look soon for early adopter incentives!
 

ecosse_011172

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Did you read this quote near the end?

Specs are one thing but the games are quite another and what we've seen so far certainly looks impressive bearing in mind that Switch has to operate effectively as a handheld device with a tight power budget.
 

The Hermit

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Is this from a porn movie? Do you have a link of the original?
 

Oregano

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If you could stuff an Xbox One into a handheld system don't you think MS would have done it instead of releasing the S? Just saying, let that reality soak in. That's not a bad thing either considering Switch is like 1/10th the size.

There's a big middle ground though. Considering it uses an X1 expecting somewhere closer to 250/600 Gflops would not have been outlandish(thats about what I expected) and they undershot that quite a bit.
 

Doctre81

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Lower clocked than shield does not mean the performance is worse. Are we going to act like there have been no efficiency gains since 2014? And don't forget shield was tied to android.
 

Miracle

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When I had the most fun with a 2d game this year that could be run on practically every computer out there then yes, fun games are ultimately what matters to some folks. Sometimes I enjoy top of the line graphics in games as well but if the game is boring then no amount of pretty graphics is going to interest me. This is coming from someone with a high end pc as well. Its funny though a lot of people with high end pcs joke about how they spend most of their time playing games with simple graphics and therefore aren't getting the most out of their computers.

I imagine a more powerful machine has a lot more to do than just being capable of putting in more pixels, doesn't it?
 
Did you read this quote near the end?

Don't be stupid. 90% of people just go off on one without even knowing what they're really talking about. If this thread proves one thing, it's that Thraktor is literally just about the only person on here with a modicum of self control and common sense when it comes to discussing hardware specs.

Fuck the haters, they can all play Candy Crush and Clash Royale on their shitty 4 inch mobiles while I'm rocking portable BOTW like a boss on the 8:05 to London Cannon Street.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Lower clocked than shield does not mean the performance is worse. Are we going to act like there have been no efficiency gains since 2014?

Nintendo is.
 

jroc74

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Did you read this quote near the end?
Specs are one thing but the games are quite another and what we've seen so far certainly looks impressive bearing in mind that Switch has to operate effectively as a handheld device with a tight power budget.

Maybe, maybe not but this is what many are focusing on....

And I wont lie and say I dont blame ppl for being disappointed.

I mean look at the Wii U and 3DS. Had alot of impressive looking games on both. Had some win GOTY awards.

Specs of both werent anything to brag about.

So a weak Nintendo console having impressive looking games is nothing new.

But was it 1st party or 3rd party games they were talking about? Or some of the now cautiously optimistic multi platform game(s).
 
Don't be stupid. 90% of people just go off on one without even knowing what they're really talking about. If this thread proves one thing, it's that Thraktor is literally just about the only person on here with a modicum of self control and common sense when it comes to discussing hardware specs.

Fuck the haters, they can all play Candy Crush and Clash Royale on their shitty 4 inch mobiles while I'm rocking portable BOTW like a boss on the 8:05 to London Cannon Street.

I'm not even sure the Switch will play Candy Crush or Clash Royale smoothly with this hardware.
 
I imagine a more powerful machine has a lot more to do than just being capable of putting in more pixels, doesn't it?

Of course they do but that still doesn't change the fact that more advanced technology =/= better games. Remember how devs hyped up the new ps4/x1 with experiences that can't be had on the ps3/x360 thanks to new tech? Everything still follows the same formulas but hey at least everything looks prettier! And I'm not trying to downplay graphics because I do enjoy my graphically intense games.
 

anothertech

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PS3: 230 gflops
360: 240 gflops
WiiU: 352 gflops
Xbone: 1.2 tflops
Ps4: 1.8 tflops
Pro: 4.2 flops
Scorpio: 6 tflops

Switch:
153 gflops
340 gflops

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Lacix

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So it seems to me it is nearly the same power as the Wii U? (in docked mode)

Code:
Wii U			Espresso (IBM) (1,243 GHz)	ATI Latte (550 MHz)		14,9 GFlops + 352,0 GFlops =	366,9 GFlops
Nintendo Switch		ARM Cortex-A57 (1.02 GHz)	Nvidia Maxwell (768 MHz)	16,3 GFlops + 393,2 GFlops =	409,5 GFlops
 

BigEmil

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-"Industry leading chips"
-"as powerful as a PS4"
-"not as powerful as a PS4, as powerful as X1"
-"not as powerful as X1, as powerful as Shield TV"
-"not as powerful as a Shield TV, but more powerful than a Wii U"

Can't get any worse...right guys?
Switch games will be likely as powerful as Xbox One.

Since it has to only render less pixels at 720 (or lower depending on devs) and maybe reduce some settings slightly more on top the hardware can handle current-gen games.

With the low level API and the architectural improvements and tools available for easier porting to Switch no need to worry
 

Oregano

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The dozens a dozens of Shield owners can finally rejoice.

Owning a Shield Tablet made me even more positive about the Switch, only to be let down again.

It will be funny in a sad way if/when Nvidia announce the new Shield and make a point about How it's better than Switch though.
 
Sorry if been answered before but how does this compare to a well known something like a smartphone, a console etc?!

in portable mode. gpu wise its a bit faster than an iphone 6s. cpu wise its well behind.

this assumes its a 4 core a57 at 1 ghz. i think this the current cpu expectation? if im wrong someone correct me
 

Schnozberry

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Owning a Shield Tablet made me even more positive about the Switch, only to be let down again.

It will be funny in a sad way if/when Nvidia announce the new Shield and make a point about How it's better than Switch though.

They won't draw any direct comparisons to the Switch. Nintendo will likely never talk specs publicly. The new Shield device is an Android TV Set Top Box. Gaming isn't even it's primary feature, unless you're taking about game streaming from your PC or GeForce Now.
 

Astral Dog

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I still don't care at all. I look at this as a handheld before a home console. And I'll take what I can get with a unified library on one system.

With that said, I'm hoping the price reflects it. Not only of the console but the games as well.
Zelda and similar games will be $60, no other way around it.
 

RoadHazard

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Wii U was still the birth of the 8th gen. Switch is still the birth of the 9th gen.

The Wii U was a home console though. This is a handheld. Did the 3DS start a new console generation? No, because we've always viewed handhelds as their own thing (with Nintendo as the only major player, although Sony made a decent effort at getting a piece of that action). And although the Switch has a docked TV-out mode, it really cannot be counted among the home consoles. It's a dockable handheld, and if it's the start of any generation it's the next generation of handhelds following the 3DS.
 

Boke1879

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Real talk. I wasn't buying this for anything other than their first party offerings. But how is thing gonna look and run 3rd party ports?
 
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