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E3 2015 Predictions & Discussion thread
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Timed exclusive for Wii U. GAF shakes itself to pieces.
Yeah I don't know why they announce this stuff on stage. Why does the audience care? What are they supposed to say, "Yayy, thank you for fucking over all of my friends who have a different console, while providing no true benefit to your core audience"?
I have a feeling Sony has probably nabbed a timed exclusive deal on the DLC for Fallout 4, akin to what Microsoft had with Fallout 3's DLC (6 months IIRC).
Yes. That's how marketing works. They want people to lean towards the version with the "extra" content.
Are there really that many people who don't know which console to get, so they tune into E3 to find out which console gets an exclusive AssCreed fetch quest and let that govern their decision? Maybe there are, I don't know. Seems weird though. I would think that an entirely new game would hold more sway.
PLASTICA-MAN
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No HL3 and no GOW4? No E3 
Shenmue 3, Crash, and TLG will fill that category.
Marketing deals for Battlefront, Black Ops 3, Mad Max, Destiny Comet, Fallout 4 and Mad Max will suffice in that department.
All will be well.
Nightengale
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Unfortunately, it's because the audience (may not necessarily care), but are moved enough to lean towards that platform that we're seeing marketing deals continue to exist, and instead being stretched out more and more, with deals now including nonsensical bullshit like exclusive pre-load.
Marketing deals & multiplayer paywalls are winners that should never have happened, but they won.
I honestly hope Bethesda is done with timed-deals. The shit going on with Dragon Age is so pointless, ugh.
Magic Mushroom
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No HL3 and no GOW4? No E3
The latter will be teased I think, but it's probably too early for gameplay.
Not really a fan of teasers without gameplay, they plagued MS's conference last year. At least we should have the pay-off this year.
Yes. People tune into E3 for this exact reason.
E3 conferences exist to market products to the millions watching, which is why I find it funny when people here predict that Sony won't show off a product, such as their VR headset on stage.
Anyway, it's not like one marketing/DLC deal being made prevents a game from being greenlit or funded.
Appollowexx
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I'm so excited to see Bend's alleged VR horror game. The concept art looked wild and VR is a medium that would really elevate interactive horror experiences to the next level.
I'll likely never get a Morpheus but the concept is still exciting and I look forward to seeing what it can do for the genre.
I'll likely never get a Morpheus but the concept is still exciting and I look forward to seeing what it can do for the genre.
Nightengale
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Here is what I expect:
Microsoft:
No co-marketing deals other than the division also no money hating of third party games. Just think this is true based on the "insiders" and from Spencer's tweets. Also every year we hear about a Microsoft buying a big game at E3 and it never happens. Tomb raider happened at gamescon
Gears 1 and in engine clip of 4 will be shown
Halo 5 blow out
Tomb raider gameplay
New strategy game
Rare's game
Battle toads
Crackdown concept demo
Scale bound
Montana 16 without nfl deal
Ends with the division game play and release date this Sep
Forza 6, Below will be shown before E3 through ign first or some other game site
Quantum break and phantom dust will be announced to be shown at gamescon
Sony
Opens with ratchet and clank
Battlefront with exclusive content
Destiny's real expansion announcement and exclusive content
Black Ops 3 with exclusive content
Assassin' Creed victory clip
Indy showcase
Money hat for ME2
Titan fall launching first on ps4
All the JRPGs
Dragon dogma online clip
Street fighter V demo
Resident evil 7 tease
GG's new ip
Ends with uncharted 4 and collection
Sony will save most of its first party reveales for their other shows since they will have all the co marketing deals this fall
Microsoft:
No co-marketing deals other than the division also no money hating of third party games. Just think this is true based on the "insiders" and from Spencer's tweets. Also every year we hear about a Microsoft buying a big game at E3 and it never happens. Tomb raider happened at gamescon
Gears 1 and in engine clip of 4 will be shown
Halo 5 blow out
Tomb raider gameplay
New strategy game
Rare's game
Battle toads
Crackdown concept demo
Scale bound
Montana 16 without nfl deal
Ends with the division game play and release date this Sep
Forza 6, Below will be shown before E3 through ign first or some other game site
Quantum break and phantom dust will be announced to be shown at gamescon
Sony
Opens with ratchet and clank
Battlefront with exclusive content
Destiny's real expansion announcement and exclusive content
Black Ops 3 with exclusive content
Assassin' Creed victory clip
Indy showcase
Money hat for ME2
Titan fall launching first on ps4
All the JRPGs
Dragon dogma online clip
Street fighter V demo
Resident evil 7 tease
GG's new ip
Ends with uncharted 4 and collection
Sony will save most of its first party reveales for their other shows since they will have all the co marketing deals this fall
I agree, I always find it silly.
Oops, if only... ha ha.
Still, I would think they'd have something more substantial to show us by now.
JuanLatino
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PanicFreak
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What is ME2? Mass Effect?
Wasn't there talk Ubisoft are going PS4 marketing with Victory as well?
Mirrors edge 2 also it will be on PC and a digital only title
loaf of bread
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Mirrors Edge I assume
I honestly doubt that.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Your hopes are a little too big IMO.
I'd love a 30 minute jRPG segment from Sony:
FFXV trailer with release date, KH3 we're still making this trailer, Star Ocean 5 blownout with possible release date, Dragon Quest Heroes, new SE jRPG, Disgea 5, Level 5 jRPG and close it off with Verendus' Studio Japan hinted jRPG.
I hope they don't take longer than 45 minutes with 3rd party timed/DLC bullshit, but I suspect this might be half the show.
A 5 minute indie highlight reel with 4-5 of the bigger ones like Rime and TTC getting their own few minute demos.
My two most anticipated games I want to see in any of these shows is GG's new WRPG and Sony Japan's supposed massive scale JRPG IP
please be Legend of Dragoon reboot
I don't see how Sony's will be anywhere under 2 hours with all the content they will put out, unless they focus on just 3rd party, have only 5 minute segment for indies and spend the rest of the time talking about charts, gloating, Morpheus and one big AAA unveiled along with Ratchet & Clank.
PanicFreak
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Ah. I could see Mirror's Edge 2 being a digital only game. However, with all the rumors of all the big games (Battlefront, MGS V, Destiny, CoD, etc.) having exclusive marketing deals for the PS4, I don't see how a game like that would be on Sony's radar.
I also don't think we're going to see TitanFall 2 and, if you do, I doubt it will be exclusive to either platform, timed or otherwise.
I also don't think we're going to see TitanFall 2 and, if you do, I doubt it will be exclusive to either platform, timed or otherwise.
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BluenoseGames
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Lol no chance. I'm sure its also already been confirmed for PS4, Xbox One, PC.
loaf of bread
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Titanfall 2 has already been announced and confirmed as coming to PS4/XB1/PC
JuanLatino
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i never heard about that...Since the Watch Dogs Franchise has a co-marketing deal with Sony, i don't think they will go back with Assassins Creed
You're probably right but I would rather it go small budget, dice would have a better chance of making it true to it predecessor that way I think with a bigger budget they would have to make more mainstream. I am talking about the digital only part
PanicFreak
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I know that. One of the poster's predictions was that TitanFall would be "first on PS4".
Nightengale
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Just because the first WD has a co-marketing deal doesn't mean the next WD will. This isn't like Destiny where Sony has said outright there they've got a long term deal with that franchise.
True, but I'd be surprised if they didn't do the same with WD2 after the success of the first game.
It all down to the userbase size. Microsoft got away with it because nearly everyone had an Xbox. The PS3 backlash was smaller and didn't make much of an impact. TR is a good example of this. I didn't expect such a big blow back when it was made timed exclusive.
This generation a good portion have moved to PS4 and now feel the impact of such deals Microsoft made.
Sony clearing things up with SFV helped as well.
If there are any money-hatting on Microsoft side the developers need to be good with the PR.
SicSemperTyrannis
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I'm fully expecting a redesigned console from Microsoft to release this fall. Release a smaller console at the permanent price of $350, have a Halo 5 LE console bundle come out as well. The big thing they have to go for is to integrate the Kinect microphone into the system for use without the need of a separate Kinect unit. Tie that in with finally enabling HDMI-CEC so that the IR blaster isn't so necessary for spoken commands to control the console and AV setup. Sony is just going to continue gaining ground given the rate Microsoft has lost public opinion and mindshare. In my mind Microsoft has already done everything necessary to adjust their image beside their parity clause that continues to be nebulous and a strange caviet developers aren't thrilled about. So to turn the tide they need to complete their brand reimage and make a smaller, sleeker box that has a lower MSRP.
Sony doesn't have to really do much to keep dominating unless Microsoft pulls some crazy magic. Globally they have the market cornered and AI would be seriously surprised if a terrible E3 showing this year had an effect on their success. They have the developer support for AAA and indies and they have the console sell in to keep that content flowing liberally. Microsoft should be bending over backward to get indies onto their platform, the dry spells of previous generations have become far easier to bare on the PS4 because of the indie stop gap that has been introduced. At this point Microsoft needs every developer on their console more than the developer needs their ecosystem. I'm not saying that Microsoft is doomed, or anything silly like that either. Their console is selling better than the 360 comparing LTD, but that will be changing if they don't make some changes.
On the Nintendo front, who knows. They will show some things I guess? I don't even know if they are holding a conference or another Direct with treehouse streams this year. I use my Wii U as a Mario, Metriod, Zelda machine for the most part...now if only they brought a Metroid for me to get the full use out of the console...
Third parties are going to be my biggest excitement this year. Bethesda hopefully has some serious big hitters to show, as have been mentioned a bunch already: Doom, Dishonored, Fallout, something TES, heck maybe something Quake even. I'm also super hopeful that Square brings the heat with their conference. I want some throwback games coming back from the dead. Give me a new FF Tactics game in the vein of the original on the Vita or X1/PS4. Bring back some of your corpse franchises from the PSX era and give gamers what we've been begging you for since Lightning ruined most of our hearts.
tl;dr- E3 could be awesome, but even if it isn't on a super high level like it in all accounts should be every year, it will be fun to watch the Internet be mad about trivial garbage anyhow.
Sony doesn't have to really do much to keep dominating unless Microsoft pulls some crazy magic. Globally they have the market cornered and AI would be seriously surprised if a terrible E3 showing this year had an effect on their success. They have the developer support for AAA and indies and they have the console sell in to keep that content flowing liberally. Microsoft should be bending over backward to get indies onto their platform, the dry spells of previous generations have become far easier to bare on the PS4 because of the indie stop gap that has been introduced. At this point Microsoft needs every developer on their console more than the developer needs their ecosystem. I'm not saying that Microsoft is doomed, or anything silly like that either. Their console is selling better than the 360 comparing LTD, but that will be changing if they don't make some changes.
On the Nintendo front, who knows. They will show some things I guess? I don't even know if they are holding a conference or another Direct with treehouse streams this year. I use my Wii U as a Mario, Metriod, Zelda machine for the most part...now if only they brought a Metroid for me to get the full use out of the console...
Third parties are going to be my biggest excitement this year. Bethesda hopefully has some serious big hitters to show, as have been mentioned a bunch already: Doom, Dishonored, Fallout, something TES, heck maybe something Quake even. I'm also super hopeful that Square brings the heat with their conference. I want some throwback games coming back from the dead. Give me a new FF Tactics game in the vein of the original on the Vita or X1/PS4. Bring back some of your corpse franchises from the PSX era and give gamers what we've been begging you for since Lightning ruined most of our hearts.
tl;dr- E3 could be awesome, but even if it isn't on a super high level like it in all accounts should be every year, it will be fun to watch the Internet be mad about trivial garbage anyhow.
JuanLatino
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yeah youre right on that. But after the success with WD, i think Sony will stick to that franchise
Also why should AC quit that marketing deal with sony (after all those year) - only to come back one year later?
There's been talk* about Sony having a deal with pretty much every franchise.
*nobodies on forums talking back and forth to each other based on anecdotal musings.
Rightly so. The two situations are in no way alike.
HORRORSHØW
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please don't saturate the sony stage with 3rd-party stuff. i want to know what's unique to your platform.
Nightengale
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Well, it's new to say the least.
The past two years of every game being exclusive to XB1 was fun, but obviously we need something fresh.
Before PSX, I was adamant that if Sony ever got a deal for a console exclusive with Capcom, at the very best they could maybe land DMC5, Street Fighter was way out of reach. Really surprised me. Just like DMC4 and DmC, Street Fighter IV and its iterations released on multiple platforms, so honestly, after that street fighter v business, I'd say anything's possible.
The money hat thing still bothers me, the best case scenario in my opinion would be if they took a third party new IP and made that a full on PS4 exclusive, ideally something that releases this holiday season (Sony must have noticed the talk about them "havin no gamez this year" as well).
Established multiplat IP would just be dickish to already existing fans on other platforms.
Timed exclusives are meh, as are timed exclusive DLCs or marketing rights.
With them expecting PS4 sales to rise in the fiscal year they must have something and I sure as hell hope that it's not just marketing and timed DLC for every third party game on the planet (even though it's hard to deny the effect that something like that has).
Established multiplat IP would just be dickish to already existing fans on other platforms.
Timed exclusives are meh, as are timed exclusive DLCs or marketing rights.
With them expecting PS4 sales to rise in the fiscal year they must have something and I sure as hell hope that it's not just marketing and timed DLC for every third party game on the planet (even though it's hard to deny the effect that something like that has).
Yes but they can't develop a blockbuster title in the few months between Uncharted being delayed and the holidays.
Not only do they expect the sales to rise but they said that even with that increase they were being modest.
So the chances of a price drop are good since that is the one thing that would make such an increase in sales very possible.
Which is why I'm saying that they could take a third party game that's already in development for this holiday season and make it exclusive, I realize that it's unlikely that there's a new IP coming from a big third party studio this holiday season that's not yet been announced, since the big western publishers like to especially give their new IPs over a year between announcement and release, but who knows.
I'd say that E3 is pretty much the place where Sony is going to show the world how they plan to sell 1.2 million more PS4s this year than last year, if they expect to do that with nothing but marketing and DLC deals and a price cut then that's pretty boring.
I wanna see some of that aggressive investing in PS in 2015 that was talked about during their investors call this year at E3.
Price drop is likely but not really riveting news for a person that already owns a PS4. Lol
It is for those who don't.
like yours truly hehe
Don't think there is any game they could announce that could cause such a bump this year.
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