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Famitsu: "FF16 has sold over 3 million units worldwide in about a week since its release. Cumulative number of sales is the total number of package shipments and download version sales."



Original Source: https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/202306280053/

 

[kazuyamishima]

Square Enix “panicking” about FFXVI sales be like:

 

[YukiOnna]

Great news, in the same range as FFVII Remake. As long as the mainline series continues to do well.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Something to consider, the average revenue per unit sold is probably substantially higher in comparison to FFXV and FF7R due to the standard edition being priced higher. Then there's also the even pricier deluxe edition which albeit anecdotally seemed to have sold well.

 

[ungalo]

FF7 Remake was 3,5 on the same period i think.

It's pretty good, nothing crazy. I hope it sells in the long term contrary to the remake.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Very good, XV released on two platforms and had a 10 year hype cycle, VIIR released on a very high install base + FFVII brand hype.

Word of mouth should be excellent with this once now that many have gotten further into it.

Its the best FF since 10 or 12 in my eyes and may break into my top 3!

 

[YukiOnna]

Something to consider, the average revenue per unit sold is probably substantially higher in comparison to FFXV and FF7R due to the standard edition being priced higher. Then there's also the even pricier deluxe edition which albeit anecdotally seemed to have sold well.

It was surprising to see the Deluxe Edition outpace the standard for like a month+ overseas. Collectors Edition sold out in its 2 runs after the State of Play, as well.

 

[drganon]

A recently banned poster will be very displeased with this.

 

[Zheph]

let's fucking go!!

That's such a good number for a PS5 exclusive

 

[Thirty7ven]

Deserves every sale it gets, it’s a great game regardless of what people think a Final Fantasy should be or not.

If the game had been called anything else it would be swimming in 10s.

 

[jm89]

Something to consider, the average revenue per unit sold is probably substantially higher in comparison to FFXV and FF7R due to the standard edition being priced higher. Then there's also the even pricier deluxe edition which albeit anecdotally seemed to have sold well.

Digital will contribute a lot as well, and they will take a bigger cut of that.

One of the online retailers i buy from in the UK went out of stock in launch week, you don't see that very often. Wonder if se may have slightly underestimated demand, another retailer upped the price after launch which you don't see very often either.

 

[acm2000]

the few streamers i watch who actually played this all gave up after a stream or two

 

[NeonGhost]

the few streamers i watch who actually played this all gave up after a stream or two

Ok ?

 

[Ronin_7]

But but I've been told it was selling negative Numbers???

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

So, 3mil on a 40mil install base.

Anyone got data for when XV and VIIR released? At a guess, PS4 and XB1 install base was probably 70mil when XV released? PS4 install base when VIIR released around 100mil?

3mil at lets say an conservative average of $60 per copy (more like $70-80 factoring in special editions etc...) that's $180mil revenue week 1. Sony money hat probably quite sizeable too.

 

[Fabieter]

Awesome news, hopefully the legs will be big.

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Where are all the haters and doubters at? All on only *1* platform, don't forget that when comparing it to FFVIIR. Deserves every sale, my GOTY frontrunner and will finish as one of my top 3 FF's unless it falls off a cliff in the second half. Well done Square, well done Yoshi P, Final Fantasy for life

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I was expecting it to sell light at release but this one will have legs. It will get a sales boost later this year too because of GOTY voting attention.

It's the best FF game since XII and reminds me so much of what made X so good.

 

[skit_data]

Nice to see people supporting it! I'm about 30 hours in and it's definitely my GOTY so far, give us an option to turn off motion blur and a 40 fps mode and it will probably hold that spot the rest of the year. Story, visuals, voice acting, everything is stellar outside of the framerate.

 

[Zheph]

So, 3mil on a 40mil install base.

Anyone got data for when XV and VIIR released? At a guess, PS4 and XB1 install base was probably 60-70mil when XV released? PS4 install base when VIIR released around 100mil?

3mil at lets say an conservative average of $60 per copy (more like $70-80 factoring in special editions etc...) that's $180mil revenue week 1. Sony money hate probably quite sizeable too.

VIIR did 3.5m and the PS4 was already around 100m units so this is an excellent score for XVI

 

[Roxkis_ii]

Damn, all that review bombing and fud throwing in threads and it still cracked 3 mil on a single console easy.

Haters reading this news like:

 

[Poltz]

FF7 Remake was 3,5 on the same period i think.

It's pretty good, nothing crazy. I hope it sells in the long term contrary to the remake.

2020 PS4 base mate come on.

 

[Godot25]

Square Enix “panicking” about FFXVI sales be like:

I mean. It sold 500 000 copies less then FF VII Remake...
...and 2 million copies less then FF XV.

"But it is available only on one platform"
Yes, but people here also told me that game did not sell well on Xbox and number of copies sold there were irrelevant.

 

[kazuyamishima]

So, 3mil on a 40mil install base.

Anyone got data for when XV and VIIR released? At a guess, PS4 and XB1 install base was probably 60-70mil when XV released? PS4 install base when VIIR released around 100mil?

3mil at lets say an conservative average of $60 per copy (more like $70-80 factoring in special editions etc...) that's $180mil revenue week 1. Sony money hate probably quite sizeable too.

FFXV Installbase (PS4 + Xbone) at launch: Almost 75m units.
FF7R Installbase (PS4) at launch: Almost 110m units.
FFXVI Installbase (PS5) at launch: Almost 40m units.

Average price for standard is $/£/€68.5 and deluxe edition about £/€/$ about $99.

Revenue is definitely higher than FF7R and possibly FFXV.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

I mean. It sold 500 000 copies less then FF VII Remake...
...and 2 million copies less then FF XV.

"But it is available only on one platform"
Yes, but people here also told me that game did not sell well on Xbox and number of copies sold there were irrelevant.

You really wanna pour water on the celebration, huh?
What did FFXVI do to you?

 

[Ronin_7]

FFXV Installbase (PS4 + Xbone) at launch: Almost 75m units.
FF7R Installbase (PS4) at launch: Almost 110m units.
FFXVI Installbase (PS5) at launch: Almost 40m units.

Average price for standard is $/£/€68.5 and deluxe edition about £/€/$ about $99.

Revenue is definitely higher than FF7R and possibly FFXV.

You're wasting your time arguing with people who react emotionally to news like this without even understand the meaning of context.

As for your post 100% on point mate

 

[lh032]

3 mil in a week is impressive, lets hope it continues to do that, im enjoying the game.

 

[Poltz]

This is in the ball park of God of War 2018 and people are trying to act like it’s a bomba.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

FFXV Installbase (PS4 + Xbone) at launch: Almost 75m units.
FF7R Installbase (PS4) at launch: Almost 110m units.
FFXVI Installbase (PS5) at launch: Almost 40m units.

Average price for standard is $/£/€68.5 and deluxe edition about £/€/$ about $99.

Revenue is definitely higher than FF7R and possibly FFXV.

Awesome + Sony money hat too, expect good legs and then PC release. All things considered, it's safe to say high budget FF games can turn a healthy profit quite quickly.

We need more FF games like VIIR and definitely XVI. A massive step up from XIII and XV era.

XVI is compareable to PS1 levels of a grand adventure.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Do we know how much a Sony money hat is for an AAA game? $20-50mil perhaps?

 

[Zheph]

Yes, but people here also told me that game did not sell well on Xbox and number of copies sold there were irrelevant.

We talking about the PS4 here

 

[Poltz]

https://blog.playstation.com/2018/0...3-days-becomes-fastest-selling-ps4-exclusive/

God of War 2018 was 3.1m in 3days.

 

[Godot25]

You really wanna pour water on the celebration, huh?
What did FFXVI do to you?

Nah. I think it is a success.
But people here are celebrating like it is best selling FF ever already with mindblowing numbers.
When it sold 60% of what previous game in series sold in same timeframe.

 

[Godot25]

We talking about the PS4 here

Ehh. Final Fantasy XV came out 3 years after PS4 release. So...exactly same timeframe as FFXVI on PS5.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Nah. I think it is a success.
But people here are celebrating like it is best selling FF ever already with mindblowing numbers.
When it sold 60% of what previous game in series sold in same timeframe.

No, we don't care about comparing. We're just happy FF can probably turn a healthy profit very quickly to justify more games like this.

 

[jm89]

But people here are celebrating like it is best selling FF ever already with mindblowing numbers.

Nobody said that you plank, making up fictional stories to justify your bullshit.

 

[Zheph]

Ehh. Final Fantasy XV came out 3 years after PS4 release. So...exactly same timeframe as FFXVI on PS5.

The console was more available, the game did cost less and was still available on other platform
if you want to play, I see many xbox fans complaining each time they missing a JRPG, surely they buy those games too or they wait for GP?

I am sure Square Enix is extremely happy with that score

 

[mrmustard]

Do we know how much a Sony money hat is for an AAA game? $20-50mil perhaps?

I think the moneyhatting + that intense Sony marketing is easily around 150 millions, but i totally pulled that number out of my ass. If we assume Xbox only did 20-25% of the sales that's already nearly 50 million Dollars after some days Sony has to compensate for not to talk about pc sales and possible Games with Gold or Game Pass money.

 

[kazuyamishima]

Nah. I think it is a success.
But people here are celebrating like it is best selling FF ever already with mindblowing numbers.
When it sold 60% of what previous game in series sold in same timeframe.

It sold 85% of what FF7R did and 75% of the PS4 version of FFXV.

And no, The Xbone version did a respectable 1m units day one, a very significant amount that some people are still saying is not.

 

[owandeseis]

Do we know how much a Sony money hat is for an AAA game? $20-50mil perhaps?

Considering Tomb Raider or Bordelands numbers (both 100m), i'd say something in the 100-200m at least (for such a big saga, not any AAA ofc) , would definitely be cheaper if it was just about excluding Xbox, but PC is big nowadays, and you don't just have to pay for the copies that won't be sold but for the players the saga is losing, the more sales a game has, the easier for future games to do better numbers.

About the 3 million sales these aren't terrible, even for a main Final Fantasy game, bit weak compared to the 5m day 1 from FFXV but it was expected, i think the saga will make a comeback with FF 7 Rebirth

 

[Slothbeing1209]

Nah. I think it is a success.
But people here are celebrating like it is best selling FF ever already with mindblowing numbers.
When it sold 60% of what previous game in series sold in same timeframe.

??? Nobody here said anything like that?

 

[Hudo]

Square are gonna be disappointed anyway since their sales metrics are fucking crazy.

 

[Varteras]

Nah. I think it is a success.
But people here are celebrating like it is best selling FF ever already with mindblowing numbers.
When it sold 60% of what previous game in series sold in same timeframe.

People are happy because there were others being absolute twats over this game and claiming it wouldn't sell. Spreading FUD about pre-order panic at SE. For comparison, The Outer Worlds took 2 years and 4 platforms, with a vastly higher combined install base, to sell 3 million. FF16 did that on one platform in a week.

 

[Zathalus]

It's a good number, but something is telling me Square is going to be disappointed as its lower then both FF7R and FF15.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Considering price per unit, install base and a singular platfrom - this number is actually terrific. And FF XV was shipped mostly on discs that were rotting in bargain bins for years after. FF XVI was sold-in digital for the most part.

All and all it's great that FF is still a big brand to consider.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Considering Tomb Raider or Bordelands numbers (both 100m), i'd say something in the 100-200m at least (for such a big saga, not any AAA ofc) , would definitely be cheaper if it was just about excluding Xbox, but PC is big nowadays, and you don't just have to pay for the copies that won't be sold but for the players the saga is losing, the more sales a game has, the easier for future games to do better numbers.

About the 3 million sales these aren't terrible, even for a main Final Fantasy game, bit weak compared to the 5m day 1 from FFXV but it was expected, i think the saga will make a comeback with FF 7 Rebirth

100mil is crazy.

I'll go with a $200mil dev+marketing budget and a $50mil Sony moneyhat, so 25% of the total budget perhaps. Making these numbers up out of thin air, but I think a fair estimate?

 

[gokurho]

Horizon Zero Dawn - 2.6 million in 2 weeks
God of War 2018 - 3.1 million in its first three days
God of War Ragnarok - 5.1 million in its launch week
Ghost of Tsushima - 2.4 million in its first three days
TLOU Part 2 - 4 million copies in its first three days

good performance

 

[mrmustard]

100mil is crazy.

I'll go with a $200mil dev+marketing budget and a $50mil Sony moneyhat, so 25% of the total budget perhaps. Making these numbers up out of thin air, but I think a fair estimate?

The moneyhat has to be be much more than 50 million, that's just a couple of 100k Xbox copies and we don't even talk about pc/GwG/GP. But Sony doesn't have to make money with the game directly. They wanted it to sell consoles + 3rd party games + subs.

 

[kazuyamishima]

100mil is crazy.

I'll go with a $200mil dev+marketing budget and a $50mil Sony moneyhat, so 25% of the total budget perhaps. Making these numbers up out of thin air, but I think a fair estimate?

MS was a sucker if they really paid $100m. for the exclusivity of Tomb Raider for a 1 year, but I doubt Sony paid $50m for just FFXVI, I would understand it if they did the combo Forspoken+FFXVI+FF7Rebirth for $50m.

But, unless the data comes from the MS-Sony-ABK trial, we’ll never know.

 

[Three]

the few streamers i watch who actually played this all gave up after a stream or two

Were they expecting many viewers? nobody would watch a stream and spoil the story in a single player game they are interested in.